Address NETFILTER_CFG issues
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v4 cover Address NETFILTER_CFG issues
There were questions about the presence and cause of unsolicited syscall events in the logs containing NETFILTER_CFG records and sometimes unaccompanied NETFILTER_CFG records.
During testing at least the following list of events trigger NETFILTER_CFG records and the syscalls related (There may be more events that will trigger this message type.):
init_module, finit_module: modprobe
delete_module: rmmod
setsockopt: iptables-restore, ip6tables-restore, ebtables-restore
unshare: (h?)ostnamed, updatedb
clone: libvirtd
kernel threads garbage collecting empty ebtables
The syscall events unsolicited by any audit rule were found to be caused by a missing !audit_dummy_context() check before issuing a NETFILTER_CFG record. In fact, since this is a configuration change it is required, and we always want the accompanying syscall record even with no rules present, so this has been addressed by ghak120.
The vast majority of unaccompanied records are caused by the fedora default
rule: "-a never,task" and the occasional early startup one is I believe caused by the iptables filter table module hard linked into the kernel rather than a loadable module.
A couple of other factors should help eliminate unaccompanied records which include commit cb74ed278f80 ("audit: always enable syscall auditing when supported and audit is enabled") which makes sure that when audit is enabled, so automatically is syscall auditing, and ghak66 which addressed initializing audit before PID 1.
Ebtables module initialization to register tables doesn't generate records because it was never hooked in to audit. Recommend adding audit hooks to log this covered by ghak43 covered by patch 1.
Table unregistration was never logged, which is now covered by ghak44 in patch 2. Unaccompanied records were caused by kernel threads automatically unregistering empty ebtables, which necessitates adding subject credentials covered in patch 3.
Seemingly duplicate records are not actually exact duplicates that are caused by netfilter table initialization in different network namespaces from the same syscall. Recommend adding the network namespace ID (proc inode and dev) to the record to make this obvious (address later with ghak79 after nsid patches).
See: https://github.com/linux-audit/audit-kernel/issues/25
See: https://github.com/linux-audit/audit-kernel/issues/35
See: https://github.com/linux-audit/audit-kernel/issues/43
See: https://github.com/linux-audit/audit-kernel/issues/44
Changelog:
v4
- rebase on audit/next v5.7-rc1
- fix checkpatch.pl errors/warnings in 1/3 and 2/3
v3
- rebase on v5.6-rc1 audit/next
- change audit_nf_cfg to audit_log_nfcfg
- squash 2,3,4,5 to 1 and update patch descriptions
- add subject credentials to cover garbage collecting kernel threads
v2
- Rebase (audit/next 5.5-rc1) to get audit_context access and ebt_register_table ret code
- Split x_tables and ebtables updates
- Check audit_dummy_context
- Store struct audit_nfcfg params in audit_context, abstract to audit_nf_cfg() call
- Restore back to "table, family, entries" from "family, table, entries"
- Log unregistration of tables
- Add "op=" at the end of the AUDIT_NETFILTER_CFG record
- Defer nsid patch (ghak79) to once nsid patchset upstreamed (ghak32)
- Add ghak refs
- Ditch NETFILTER_CFGSOLO record
Richard Guy Briggs (3):
audit: tidy and extend netfilter_cfg x_tables and ebtables logging
netfilter: add audit table unregister actions
audit: add subj creds to NETFILTER_CFG record to cover async
unregister
include/linux/audit.h | 22 +++++++++++++++++++++ kernel/auditsc.c | 43 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ net/bridge/netfilter/ebtables.c | 14 ++++++-------- net/netfilter/x_tables.c | 14 +++++--------- 4 files changed, 76 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)
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PATCH v4 1/3 audit: tidy and extend netfilter_cfg x_tables and ebtables logging
NETFILTER_CFG record generation was inconsistent for x_tables and ebtables configuration changes. The call was needlessly messy and there were supporting records missing at times while they were produced when not requested. Simplify the logging call into a new audit_log_nfcfg call. Honour the audit_enabled setting while more consistently recording information including supporting records by tidying up dummy checks.
Add an op= field that indicates the operation being performed (register or replace).
Here is the enhanced sample record:
type=NETFILTER_CFG msg=audit(1580905834.919:82970): table=filter family=2 entries=83 op=replace
Generate audit NETFILTER_CFG records on ebtables table registration. Previously this was being done for x_tables registration and replacement operations and ebtables table replacement only.
See: https://github.com/linux-audit/audit-kernel/issues/25
See: https://github.com/linux-audit/audit-kernel/issues/35
See: https://github.com/linux-audit/audit-kernel/issues/43
--- include/linux/audit.h | 21 +++++++++++++++++++++ kernel/auditsc.c | 24 ++++++++++++++++++++++++ net/bridge/netfilter/ebtables.c | 12 ++++-------- net/netfilter/x_tables.c | 12 +++--------- 4 files changed, 52 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)
include/linux/audit.h +21 -0
@@ -94,6 +94,11 @@ struct audit_ntp_data {struct audit_ntp_data {};#endif +enum audit_nfcfgop { +AUDIT_XT_OP_REGISTER , +AUDIT_XT_OP_REPLACE , +}; +extern int is_audit_feature_set (int which);extern int __init audit_register_class (int class,unsigned *list);
@@ -379,6 +384,8 @@ extern int __audit_log_bprm_fcaps(struct linux_binprm *bprm,extern void __audit_fanotify (unsigned int response);extern void __audit_tk_injoffset (struct timespec64 offset);extern void __audit_ntp_log (const struct audit_ntp_data *ad); +extern void __audit_log_nfcfg (const char *name,u8 af,unsigned int nentries, +enum audit_nfcfgop op);static inline void audit_ipc_obj (struct kern_ipc_perm *ipcp) {
@@ -514,6 +521,14 @@ static inline void audit_ntp_log(const struct audit_ntp_data *ad) __audit_ntp_log(ad); } +static inline void audit_log_nfcfg (const char *name,u8 af, +unsigned int nentries, +enum audit_nfcfgop op) +{ +if (audit_enabled) +__audit_log_nfcfg (name, af, nentries, op); +} +extern int audit_n_rules;extern int audit_signals;#else /* CONFIG_AUDITSYSCALL */
@@ -646,6 +661,12 @@ static inline void audit_ntp_log(const struct audit_ntp_data *ad)static inline void audit_ptrace (struct task_struct *t) { } + +static inline void audit_log_nfcfg (const char *name,u8 af, +unsigned int nentries, +enum audit_nfcfgop op) +{ } +#define audit_n_rules 0#define audit_signals 0#endif /* CONFIG_AUDITSYSCALL */
kernel/auditsc.c +24 -0
@@ -130,6 +130,16 @@ struct audit_tree_refs {struct audit_chunk *c[31 ]; }; +struct audit_nfcfgop_tab { +enum audit_nfcfgop op; +const char *s; +}; + +const struct audit_nfcfgop_tab audit_nfcfgs[] = { + {AUDIT_XT_OP_REGISTER ,"register" }, + {AUDIT_XT_OP_REPLACE ,"replace" }, +}; +static int audit_match_perm (struct audit_context *ctx,int mask) {unsigned n;
@@ -2542,6 +2552,20 @@ void __audit_ntp_log(const struct audit_ntp_data *ad)audit_log_ntp_val (ad,"adjust" ,AUDIT_NTP_ADJUST ); } +void __audit_log_nfcfg (const char *name,u8 af,unsigned int nentries, +enum audit_nfcfgop op) +{ +struct audit_buffer *ab; + + ab =audit_log_start (audit_context (),GFP_KERNEL ,AUDIT_NETFILTER_CFG ); +if (!ab) +return ; +audit_log_format (ab,"table=%s family=%u entries=%u op=%s" , + name, af, nentries, audit_nfcfgs[op].s); +audit_log_end (ab); +} +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL (__audit_log_nfcfg); +static void audit_log_task (struct audit_buffer *ab) {kuid_t auid, uid;
net/bridge/netfilter/ebtables.c +4 -8
@@ -1046,14 +1046,8 @@ static int do_replace_finish(struct net *net, struct ebt_replace *repl,vfree (table);vfree (counterstmp); -#ifdef CONFIG_AUDIT -if (audit_enabled) { -audit_log (audit_context (),GFP_KERNEL , -AUDIT_NETFILTER_CFG , -"table=%s family=%u entries=%u" , - repl->name,AF_BRIDGE , repl->nentries); - } -#endif +audit_log_nfcfg (repl->name,AF_BRIDGE , repl->nentries, +AUDIT_XT_OP_REPLACE );return ret; free_unlock:
@@ -1223,6 +1217,8 @@ int ebt_register_table(struct net *net, const struct ebt_table *input_table, *res =NULL ; } +audit_log_nfcfg (repl->name,AF_BRIDGE , repl->nentries, +AUDIT_XT_OP_REGISTER );return ret; free_unlock:mutex_unlock (&ebt_mutex);
net/netfilter/x_tables.c +3 -9
@@ -1408,15 +1408,9 @@ struct xt_table_info * } } -#ifdef CONFIG_AUDIT -if (audit_enabled) { -audit_log (audit_context (),GFP_KERNEL , -AUDIT_NETFILTER_CFG , -"table=%s family=%u entries=%u" , - table->name, table->af, private->number); - } -#endif - +audit_log_nfcfg (table->name, table->af, private->number, + !private->number ?AUDIT_XT_OP_REGISTER : +AUDIT_XT_OP_REPLACE );return private; }EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL (xt_replace_table);
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Re: [PATCH ghak25 v4 1/3] audit: tidy and extend netfilter_cfg x_tables and ebtables logging
Quoted 23 lines · Richard Guy Briggs
NETFILTER_CFGrecord generation was inconsistent forx_tablesand ebtables configuration changes. The call was needlessly messy and there were supporting records missing at times while they were produced when not requested. Simplify the logging call into a newaudit_log_nfcfgcall. Honour theaudit_enabledsetting while more consistently recording information including supporting records by tidying up dummy checks.Add an op= field that indicates the operation being performed (register or replace).
Here is the enhanced sample record:
type=NETFILTER_CFG msg=audit(1580905834.919:82970): table=filter family=2 entries=83 op=replaceGenerate audit
NETFILTER_CFGrecords on ebtables table registration. Previously this was being done forx_tablesregistration and replacement operations and ebtables table replacement only.See: https://github.com/linux-audit/audit-kernel/issues/25
See: https://github.com/linux-audit/audit-kernel/issues/35
See: https://github.com/linux-audit/audit-kernel/issues/43
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Signed-off-by Richard Guy Briggs <[email protected]>--- include/linux/audit.h | 21 +++++++++++++++++++++ kernel/auditsc.c | 24 ++++++++++++++++++++++++ net/bridge/netfilter/ebtables.c | 12 ++++-------- net/netfilter/x_tables.c | 12 +++--------- 4 files changed, 52 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)
Merged into audit/next, thanks.
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paul moore www.paul-moore.com
PATCH v4 2/3 netfilter: add audit table unregister actions
In reply to Richard Guy BriggsAudit the action of unregistering ebtables and x_tables.
See: https://github.com/linux-audit/audit-kernel/issues/44
--- include/linux/audit.h | 1 + kernel/auditsc.c | 5 +++-- net/bridge/netfilter/ebtables.c | 2 ++ net/netfilter/x_tables.c | 2 ++ 4 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
include/linux/audit.h +1 -0
@@ -97,6 +97,7 @@ struct audit_ntp_data {enum audit_nfcfgop {AUDIT_XT_OP_REGISTER ,AUDIT_XT_OP_REPLACE , +AUDIT_XT_OP_UNREGISTER , };extern int is_audit_feature_set (int which);
kernel/auditsc.c +3 -2
@@ -136,8 +136,9 @@ struct audit_nfcfgop_tab { };const struct audit_nfcfgop_tab audit_nfcfgs[] = { - {AUDIT_XT_OP_REGISTER ,"register" }, - {AUDIT_XT_OP_REPLACE ,"replace" }, + {AUDIT_XT_OP_REGISTER ,"register" }, + {AUDIT_XT_OP_REPLACE ,"replace" }, + {AUDIT_XT_OP_UNREGISTER ,"unregister" }, };static int audit_match_perm (struct audit_context *ctx,int mask)
net/bridge/netfilter/ebtables.c +2 -0
@@ -1124,6 +1124,8 @@ static void __ebt_unregister_table(struct net *net, struct ebt_table *table)mutex_lock (&ebt_mutex);list_del (&table->list);mutex_unlock (&ebt_mutex); +audit_log_nfcfg (table->name,AF_BRIDGE , table->private->nentries, +AUDIT_XT_OP_UNREGISTER );EBT_ENTRY_ITERATE (table->private->entries, table->private->entries_size, ebt_cleanup_entry, net,NULL );if (table->private->nentries)
net/netfilter/x_tables.c +2 -0
@@ -1472,6 +1472,8 @@ void *xt_unregister_table(struct xt_table *table) private = table->private;list_del (&table->list);mutex_unlock (&xt[table->af].mutex); +audit_log_nfcfg (table->name, table->af, private->number, +AUDIT_XT_OP_UNREGISTER );kfree (table);return private;
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Re: [PATCH ghak25 v4 2/3] netfilter: add audit table unregister actions
Quoted 11 lines · Richard Guy Briggs
Audit the action of unregistering ebtables and
x_tables.See: https://github.com/linux-audit/audit-kernel/issues/44
Signed-off-by Richard Guy Briggs <[email protected]>--- include/linux/audit.h | 1 + kernel/auditsc.c | 5 +++-- net/bridge/netfilter/ebtables.c | 2 ++ net/netfilter/x_tables.c | 2 ++ 4 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
Merged into audit/next, thanks.
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PATCH v4 3/3 audit: add subj creds to NETFILTER_CFG record to cover async unregister
In reply to Richard Guy BriggsSome table unregister actions seem to be initiated by the kernel to garbage collect unused tables that are not initiated by any userspace actions. It was found to be necessary to add the subject credentials to cover this case to reveal the source of these actions. A sample record:
type=NETFILTER_CFG msg=audit(2020-03-11 21:25:21.491:269) : table=nat family=bridge entries=0 op=unregister pid=153 uid=root auid=unset tty=(none) ses=unset subj=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 comm=kworker/u4:2 exe=(null)
--- kernel/auditsc.c | 18 ++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 18 insertions(+)
kernel/auditsc.c +18 -0
@@ -2557,12 +2557,30 @@ void __audit_log_nfcfg(const char *name, u8 af, unsigned int nentries, enum audit_nfcfgop op) {struct audit_buffer *ab; +const struct cred *cred; +struct tty_struct *tty; +char comm[sizeof (current->comm)]; ab =audit_log_start (audit_context (),GFP_KERNEL ,AUDIT_NETFILTER_CFG );if (!ab)return ;audit_log_format (ab,"table=%s family=%u entries=%u op=%s" , name, af, nentries, audit_nfcfgs[op].s); + + cred =current_cred (); + tty =audit_get_tty (); +audit_log_format (ab," pid=%u uid=%u auid=%u tty=%s ses=%u" , +task_pid_nr (current), +from_kuid (&init_user_ns, cred->uid), +from_kuid (&init_user_ns,audit_get_loginuid (current)), + tty ?tty_name (tty) :"(none)" , +audit_get_sessionid (current)); +audit_put_tty (tty); +audit_log_task_context (ab);/* subj= */ +audit_log_format (ab," comm=" ); +audit_log_untrustedstring (ab,get_task_comm (comm, current)); +audit_log_d_path_exe (ab, current->mm);/* exe= */ +audit_log_end (ab); }EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL (__audit_log_nfcfg);
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Paul Moore
maintainerRe: [PATCH ghak25 v4 3/3] audit: add subj creds to NETFILTER_CFG record to cover async unregister
Quoted 6 lines · Richard Guy Briggs
Some table unregister actions seem to be initiated by the kernel to garbage collect unused tables that are not initiated by any userspace actions. It was found to be necessary to add the subject credentials to cover this case to reveal the source of these actions. A sample record:
type=NETFILTER_CFG msg=audit(2020-03-11 21:25:21.491:269) : table=nat family=bridge entries=0 op=unregister pid=153 uid=root auid=unset tty=(none) ses=unset subj=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 comm=kworker/u4:2 exe=(null)
[I'm going to comment up here instead of in the code because it is a bit easier for everyone to see what the actual impact might be on the records.]
Steve wants subject info in this case, okay, but let's try to trim out some of the fields which simply don't make sense in this record; I'm thinking of fields that are unset/empty in the kernel case and are duplicates of other records in the userspace/syscall case. I think that means we can drop "tty", "ses", "comm", and "exe" ... yes?
While "auid" is a potential target for removal based on the dup-or-unset criteria, I think it falls under Steve's request for subject info here, even if it is garbage in this case.
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Signed-off-by Richard Guy Briggs <[email protected]>--- kernel/auditsc.c | 18 ++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 18 insertions(+)kernel/auditsc.c +18
-0@@ -2557,12 +2557,30 @@ void __audit_log_nfcfg(const char *name, u8 af, unsigned int nentries, enum audit_nfcfgop op) {struct audit_buffer *ab; +const struct cred *cred; +struct tty_struct *tty; +char comm[sizeof (current->comm)]; ab =audit_log_start (audit_context (),GFP_KERNEL ,AUDIT_NETFILTER_CFG );if (!ab)return ;audit_log_format (ab,"table=%s family=%u entries=%u op=%s" , name, af, nentries, audit_nfcfgs[op].s); + + cred =current_cred (); + tty =audit_get_tty (); +audit_log_format (ab," pid=%u uid=%u auid=%u tty=%s ses=%u" , +task_pid_nr (current), +from_kuid (&init_user_ns, cred->uid), +from_kuid (&init_user_ns,audit_get_loginuid (current)), + tty ?tty_name (tty) :"(none)" , +audit_get_sessionid (current)); +audit_put_tty (tty); +audit_log_task_context (ab);/* subj= */ +audit_log_format (ab," comm=" ); +audit_log_untrustedstring (ab,get_task_comm (comm, current)); +audit_log_d_path_exe (ab, current->mm);/* exe= */ +audit_log_end (ab); }EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL (__audit_log_nfcfg);
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Re: [PATCH ghak25 v4 3/3] audit: add subj creds to NETFILTER_CFG record to cover async unregister
Quoted 12 lines · Paul Moore
Quoted 6 lines · Richard Guy Briggs
Some table unregister actions seem to be initiated by the kernel to garbage collect unused tables that are not initiated by any userspace actions. It was found to be necessary to add the subject credentials to cover this case to reveal the source of these actions. A sample record:
type=NETFILTER_CFG msg=audit(2020-03-11 21:25:21.491:269) : table=nat family=bridge entries=0 op=unregister pid=153 uid=root auid=unset tty=(none) ses=unset subj=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 comm=kworker/u4:2 exe=(null)
[I'm going to comment up here instead of in the code because it is a bit easier for everyone to see what the actual impact might be on the records.]
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Steve wants subject info in this case, okay, but let's try to trim out some of the fields which simply don't make sense in this record; I'm thinking of fields that are unset/empty in the kernel case and are duplicates of other records in the userspace/syscall case. I think that means we can drop "tty", "ses", "comm", and "exe" ... yes?
From the ghak28 discussion, this list and order was selected due to Steve's preference for the "kernel" record convention, so deviating from this will create yet a new field list. I'll defer to Steve on this. It also has to do with the searchability of fields if they are missing.
I do agree that some fields will be superfluous in the kernel case. The most important field would be "subj", but then "pid" and "comm", I would think. Based on this contents of the "subj" field, I'd think that "uid", "auid", "tty", "ses" and "exe" are not needed.
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While "auid" is a potential target for removal based on the dup-or-unset criteria, I think it falls under Steve's request for subject info here, even if it is garbage in this case.
If we keep auid, I'd say keep ses, since they usually go together, though they are separated by another field in this "kernel" record field ordering.
I expect this orphan record to occur so infrequently that I don't think bandwidth or space are a serious concern.
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Signed-off-by Richard Guy Briggs <[email protected]>--- kernel/auditsc.c | 18 ++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 18 insertions(+)kernel/auditsc.c +13
-0@@ -2557,12 +2557,30 @@ void __audit_log_nfcfg(const char *name, u8 af, unsigned int nentries, enum audit_nfcfgop op) {struct audit_buffer *ab; +const struct cred *cred; +struct tty_struct *tty; +char comm[sizeof (current->comm)]; ab =audit_log_start (audit_context (),GFP_KERNEL ,AUDIT_NETFILTER_CFG );if (!ab)return ;audit_log_format (ab,"table=%s family=%u entries=%u op=%s" , name, af, nentries, audit_nfcfgs[op].s); + + cred =current_cred (); + tty =audit_get_tty (); +audit_log_format (ab," pid=%u uid=%u auid=%u tty=%s ses=%u" , +task_pid_nr (current), +from_kuid (&init_user_ns, cred->uid), +from_kuid (&init_user_ns,audit_get_loginuid (current)), + tty ?tty_name (tty) :"(none)" , +audit_get_sessionid (current)); +audit_put_tty (tty);
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kernel/auditsc.c +5
-0+audit_log_task_context (ab);/* subj= */ +audit_log_format (ab," comm=" ); +audit_log_untrustedstring (ab,get_task_comm (comm, current)); +audit_log_d_path_exe (ab, current->mm);/* exe= */ +audit_log_end (ab); }EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL (__audit_log_nfcfg);Signature · 2 lines
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Richard Guy Briggs <[email protected]>
Sr. S/W Engineer, Kernel Security, Base Operating Systems Remote, Ottawa, Red Hat Canada
IRC: rgb, SunRaycer
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Re: [PATCH ghak25 v4 3/3] audit: add subj creds to NETFILTER_CFG record to cover async unregister
Quoted 2 lines · EDT Richard Guy Briggs
Quoted 1 line · Paul Moore
On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:40 PM Richard Guy Briggs <[email protected]>
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Some table unregister actions seem to be initiated by the kernel to garbage collect unused tables that are not initiated by any userspace actions. It was found to be necessary to add the subject credentials to cover this case to reveal the source of these actions. A sample record:
type=NETFILTER_CFG msg=audit(2020-03-11 21:25:21.491:269) : table=nat family=bridge entries=0 op=unregister pid=153 uid=root auid=unset tty=(none) ses=unset subj=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 comm=kworker/u4:2 exe=(null)>[I'm going to comment up here instead of in the code because it is a bit easier for everyone to see what the actual impact might be on the records.]
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Steve wants subject info in this case, okay, but let's try to trim out some of the fields which simply don't make sense in this record; I'm thinking of fields that are unset/empty in the kernel case and are duplicates of other records in the userspace/syscall case. I think that means we can drop "tty", "ses", "comm", and "exe" ... yes?
From the ghak28 discussion, this list and order was selected due to Steve's preference for the "kernel" record convention, so deviating from this will create yet a new field list. I'll defer to Steve on this. It also has to do with the searchability of fields if they are missing.
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I do agree that some fields will be superfluous in the kernel case. The most important field would be "subj", but then "pid" and "comm", I would think. Based on this contents of the "subj" field, I'd think that "uid", "auid", "tty", "ses" and "exe" are not needed.
We can't be adding deleting fields based on how its triggered. If they are unset, that is fine. The main issue is they have to behave the same.
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While "auid" is a potential target for removal based on the dup-or-unset criteria, I think it falls under Steve's request for subject info here, even if it is garbage in this case.
auid is always unset for daemons. We do not throw it away because of that.
-Steve
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If we keep auid, I'd say keep ses, since they usually go together, though they are separated by another field in this "kernel" record field ordering.
I expect this orphan record to occur so infrequently that I don't think bandwidth or space are a serious concern.
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Signed-off-by Richard Guy Briggs <[email protected]>---
kernel/auditsc.c | 18 ++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 18 insertions(+)kernel/auditsc.c +0
-0@@ -2557,12 +2557,30 @@ void __audit_log_nfcfg(const char *name, u8 af,unsigned int nentries,> >
enumaudit_nfcfgopop){
struct audit_buffer *ab;kernel/auditsc.c +10
-0+const struct cred *cred; +struct tty_struct *tty; +char comm[sizeof (current->comm)]; ab =audit_log_start (audit_context (),GFP_KERNEL ,AUDIT_NETFILTER_CFG );if (!ab)return ;audit_log_format (ab,"table=%s family=%u entries=%u op=%s" , name, af, nentries, audit_nfcfgs[op].s); + + cred =current_cred (); + tty =audit_get_tty (); + audit_log_format(ab, " pid=%u uid=%u auid=%u tty=%s ses=%u", + task_pid_nr(current), + from_kuid(&init_user_ns, cred->uid), + from_kuid(&init_user_ns,
audit_get_loginuid(current)), + tty ?tty_name(tty): "(none)",kernel/auditsc.c +7
-0+ audit_get_sessionid(current)); +audit_put_tty (tty); +audit_log_task_context (ab);/* subj= */ +audit_log_format (ab," comm=" ); +audit_log_untrustedstring (ab,get_task_comm (comm, current)); +audit_log_d_path_exe (ab, current->mm);/* exe= */ +Quoted 4 lines
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audit_log_end(ab);}
EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(__audit_log_nfcfg);- RGB
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Richard Guy Briggs <[email protected]>
Sr. S/W Engineer, Kernel Security, Base Operating Systems Remote, Ottawa, Red Hat Canada
IRC: rgb, SunRaycer
Voice: +1.647.777.2635, Internal: (81) 32635
Re: [PATCH ghak25 v4 3/3] audit: add subj creds to NETFILTER_CFG record to cover async unregister
Quoted 28 lines · Steve Grubb
Quoted 2 lines · EDT Richard Guy Briggs
Quoted 1 line · Paul Moore
On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:40 PM Richard Guy Briggs <[email protected]>
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Some table unregister actions seem to be initiated by the kernel to garbage collect unused tables that are not initiated by any userspace actions. It was found to be necessary to add the subject credentials to cover this case to reveal the source of these actions. A sample record:
type=NETFILTER_CFG msg=audit(2020-03-11 21:25:21.491:269) : table=nat family=bridge entries=0 op=unregister pid=153 uid=root auid=unset tty=(none) ses=unset subj=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 comm=kworker/u4:2 exe=(null)>[I'm going to comment up here instead of in the code because it is a bit easier for everyone to see what the actual impact might be on the records.]
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Steve wants subject info in this case, okay, but let's try to trim out some of the fields which simply don't make sense in this record; I'm thinking of fields that are unset/empty in the kernel case and are duplicates of other records in the userspace/syscall case. I think that means we can drop "tty", "ses", "comm", and "exe" ... yes?
From the ghak28 discussion, this list and order was selected due to Steve's preference for the "kernel" record convention, so deviating from this will create yet a new field list. I'll defer to Steve on this. It also has to do with the searchability of fields if they are missing.
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I do agree that some fields will be superfluous in the kernel case. The most important field would be "subj", but then "pid" and "comm", I would think. Based on this contents of the "subj" field, I'd think that "uid", "auid", "tty", "ses" and "exe" are not needed.
We can't be adding deleting fields based on how its triggered. If they are unset, that is fine. The main issue is they have to behave the same.
I don't think the intent was to have fields swing in and out depending on trigger. The idea is to potentially permanently not include them in this record type only. The justification is that where they aren't needed for the kernel trigger situation it made sense to delete them because if it is a user context event it will be accompanied by a syscall record that already has that information and there would be no sense in duplicating it.
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While "auid" is a potential target for removal based on the dup-or-unset criteria, I think it falls under Steve's request for subject info here, even if it is garbage in this case.
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auid is always unset for daemons. We do not throw it away because of that.
-Steve
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If we keep auid, I'd say keep ses, since they usually go together, though they are separated by another field in this "kernel" record field ordering.
I expect this orphan record to occur so infrequently that I don't think bandwidth or space are a serious concern.
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Signed-off-by Richard Guy Briggs <[email protected]>---
kernel/auditsc.c | 18 ++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 18 insertions(+)kernel/auditsc.c +0
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enumaudit_nfcfgopop){
struct audit_buffer *ab;kernel/auditsc.c +10
-0+const struct cred *cred; +struct tty_struct *tty; +char comm[sizeof (current->comm)]; ab =audit_log_start (audit_context (),GFP_KERNEL ,AUDIT_NETFILTER_CFG );if (!ab)return ;audit_log_format (ab,"table=%s family=%u entries=%u op=%s" , name, af, nentries, audit_nfcfgs[op].s); + + cred =current_cred (); + tty =audit_get_tty (); + audit_log_format(ab, " pid=%u uid=%u auid=%u tty=%s ses=%u", + task_pid_nr(current), + from_kuid(&init_user_ns, cred->uid), + from_kuid(&init_user_ns,
audit_get_loginuid(current)), + tty ?tty_name(tty): "(none)",kernel/auditsc.c +7
-0+ audit_get_sessionid(current)); +audit_put_tty (tty); +audit_log_task_context (ab);/* subj= */ +audit_log_format (ab," comm=" ); +audit_log_untrustedstring (ab,get_task_comm (comm, current)); +audit_log_d_path_exe (ab, current->mm);/* exe= */ +Quoted 4 lines
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audit_log_end(ab);}
EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(__audit_log_nfcfg);- RGB
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Paul Moore
maintainerRe: [PATCH ghak25 v4 3/3] audit: add subj creds to NETFILTER_CFG record to cover async unregister
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Some table unregister actions seem to be initiated by the kernel to garbage collect unused tables that are not initiated by any userspace actions. It was found to be necessary to add the subject credentials to cover this case to reveal the source of these actions. A sample record:
type=NETFILTER_CFG msg=audit(2020-03-11 21:25:21.491:269) : table=nat family=bridge entries=0 op=unregister pid=153 uid=root auid=unset tty=(none) ses=unset subj=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 comm=kworker/u4:2 exe=(null)>[I'm going to comment up here instead of in the code because it is a bit easier for everyone to see what the actual impact might be on the records.]
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Steve wants subject info in this case, okay, but let's try to trim out some of the fields which simply don't make sense in this record; I'm thinking of fields that are unset/empty in the kernel case and are duplicates of other records in the userspace/syscall case. I think that means we can drop "tty", "ses", "comm", and "exe" ... yes?
From the ghak28 discussion, this list and order was selected due to Steve's preference for the "kernel" record convention, so deviating from this will create yet a new field list. I'll defer to Steve on this. It also has to do with the searchability of fields if they are missing.
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I do agree that some fields will be superfluous in the kernel case. The most important field would be "subj", but then "pid" and "comm", I would think. Based on this contents of the "subj" field, I'd think that "uid", "auid", "tty", "ses" and "exe" are not needed.
We can't be adding deleting fields based on how its triggered. If they are unset, that is fine. The main issue is they have to behave the same.
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I don't think the intent was to have fields swing in and out depending on trigger. The idea is to potentially permanently not include them in this record type only. The justification is that where they aren't needed for the kernel trigger situation it made sense to delete them because if it is a user context event it will be accompanied by a syscall record that already has that information and there would be no sense in duplicating it.
Yes, exactly.
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Re: [PATCH ghak25 v4 3/3] audit: add subj creds to NETFILTER_CFG record to cover async unregister
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Some table unregister actions seem to be initiated by the kernel to garbage collect unused tables that are not initiated by any userspace
actions. It was found to be necessary to add the subject credentialsQuoted 8 lines
to cover this case to reveal the source of these actions. A sample
record:
type=NETFILTER_CFG msg=audit(2020-03-11 21:25:21.491:269) :
table=nat
family=bridge entries=0 op=unregister pid=153 uid=root auid=unset tty=(none) ses=unset subj=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 comm=kworker/u4:2 exe=(null)>[I'm going to comment up here instead of in the code because it is a bit easier for everyone to see what the actual impact might be on the records.]
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Steve wants subject info in this case, okay, but let's try to trim out
some of the fields which simply don't make sense in this record; I'm thinking of fields that are unset/empty in the kernel case and are duplicates of other records in the userspace/syscall case. I think that means we can drop "tty", "ses", "comm", and "exe" ... yes?From the ghak28 discussion, this list and order was selected due to Steve's preference for the "kernel" record convention, so deviating from this will create yet a new field list. I'll defer to Steve on this. It also has to do with the searchability of fields if they are missing.
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I do agree that some fields will be superfluous in the kernel case. The most important field would be "subj", but then "pid" and "comm", I would think. Based on this contents of the "subj" field, I'd think that "uid", "auid", "tty", "ses" and "exe" are not needed.
We can't be adding deleting fields based on how its triggered. If they are unset, that is fine. The main issue is they have to behave the same.
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I don't think the intent was to have fields swing in and out depending on trigger. The idea is to potentially permanently not include them in this record type only. The justification is that where they aren't needed for the kernel trigger situation it made sense to delete them because if it is a user context event it will be accompanied by a syscall record that already has that information and there would be no sense in duplicating it.
We should not be adding syscall records to anything that does not result from a syscall rule triggering the event. Its very wasteful. More wasteful than just adding the necessary fields.
I also wished we had a coding specification that put this in writing so that every event is not a committee decision. That anyone can look at the document and Do The Right Thing ™.
If I add a section to Writing-Good-Events outlining the expected ordering of fields, would that be enough that we do not have long discussions about event format? I'm thinking this would also help new people that want to contribute.
-Steve
Re: [PATCH ghak25 v4 3/3] audit: add subj creds to NETFILTER_CFG record to cover async unregister
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Some table unregister actions seem to be initiated by the kernel to garbage collect unused tables that are not initiated by any userspace
actions. It was found to be necessary to add the subject credentialsQuoted 8 lines
to cover this case to reveal the source of these actions. A sample
record:
type=NETFILTER_CFG msg=audit(2020-03-11 21:25:21.491:269) :
table=nat
family=bridge entries=0 op=unregister pid=153 uid=root auid=unset tty=(none) ses=unset subj=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 comm=kworker/u4:2 exe=(null)>[I'm going to comment up here instead of in the code because it is a bit easier for everyone to see what the actual impact might be on the records.]
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Steve wants subject info in this case, okay, but let's try to trim out
some of the fields which simply don't make sense in this record; I'm thinking of fields that are unset/empty in the kernel case and are duplicates of other records in the userspace/syscall case. I think that means we can drop "tty", "ses", "comm", and "exe" ... yes?From the ghak28 discussion, this list and order was selected due to Steve's preference for the "kernel" record convention, so deviating from this will create yet a new field list. I'll defer to Steve on this. It also has to do with the searchability of fields if they are missing.
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I do agree that some fields will be superfluous in the kernel case. The most important field would be "subj", but then "pid" and "comm", I would think. Based on this contents of the "subj" field, I'd think that "uid", "auid", "tty", "ses" and "exe" are not needed.
We can't be adding deleting fields based on how its triggered. If they are unset, that is fine. The main issue is they have to behave the same.
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I don't think the intent was to have fields swing in and out depending on trigger. The idea is to potentially permanently not include them in this record type only. The justification is that where they aren't needed for the kernel trigger situation it made sense to delete them because if it is a user context event it will be accompanied by a syscall record that already has that information and there would be no sense in duplicating it.
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We should not be adding syscall records to anything that does not result from a syscall rule triggering the event. Its very wasteful. More wasteful than just adding the necessary fields.
So what you are saying is you want all the fields that are being proposed to be added to this record?
If the records are all from one event, they all should all have the same timestamp/serial number so that the records are kept together and not mistaken for multiple events. One reason for having information in seperate records is to be able to filter them either in kernel or in userspace if you don't need certain records.
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I also wished we had a coding specification that put this in writing so that every event is not a committee decision. That anyone can look at the document and Do The Right Thing ™.
If I add a section to Writing-Good-Events outlining the expected ordering of fields, would that be enough that we do not have long discussions about event format? I'm thinking this would also help new people that want to contribute.
If you add this expected ordering of fields, can we re-factor all the kernel code to use this order because the userspace parser won't care what order they are in?
I realize this isn't what you are saying, but having a clear description in that document that talks about the different classes of events and what each one needs in terms of minimum to full subject attributes and object attributes would help a lot. It would also help for new records to be able to decide if it should follow the format of an existing related or similar record, or a new class with the expected standard order.
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-Steve
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Some table unregister actions seem to be initiated by the kernel to garbage collect unused tables that are not initiated by any userspace
actions. It was found to be necessary to add the subject credentialsQuoted 8 lines
to cover this case to reveal the source of these actions. A sample
record:
type=NETFILTER_CFG msg=audit(2020-03-11 21:25:21.491:269) :
table=nat
family=bridge entries=0 op=unregister pid=153 uid=root auid=unset tty=(none) ses=unset subj=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 comm=kworker/u4:2 exe=(null)>[I'm going to comment up here instead of in the code because it is a bit easier for everyone to see what the actual impact might be on the records.]
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Steve wants subject info in this case, okay, but let's try to trim out
some of the fields which simply don't make sense in this record; I'm thinking of fields that are unset/empty in the kernel case and are duplicates of other records in the userspace/syscall case. I think that means we can drop "tty", "ses", "comm", and "exe" ... yes?From the ghak28 discussion, this list and order was selected due to Steve's preference for the "kernel" record convention, so deviating from this will create yet a new field list. I'll defer to Steve on this. It also has to do with the searchability of fields if they are missing.
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I do agree that some fields will be superfluous in the kernel case. The most important field would be "subj", but then "pid" and "comm", I would think. Based on this contents of the "subj" field, I'd think that "uid", "auid", "tty", "ses" and "exe" are not needed.
We can't be adding deleting fields based on how its triggered. If they are unset, that is fine. The main issue is they have to behave the same.
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I don't think the intent was to have fields swing in and out depending on trigger. The idea is to potentially permanently not include them in this record type only. The justification is that where they aren't needed for the kernel trigger situation it made sense to delete them because if it is a user context event it will be accompanied by a syscall record that already has that information and there would be no sense in duplicating it.
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We should not be adding syscall records to anything that does not result from a syscall rule triggering the event. Its very wasteful. More wasteful than just adding the necessary fields.
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So what you are saying is you want all the fields that are being proposed to be added to this record?
If the records are all from one event, they all should all have the same timestamp/serial number so that the records are kept together and not mistaken for multiple events. One reason for having information in seperate records is to be able to filter them either in kernel or in userspace if you don't need certain records.
Yes, I'm opposed to duplicating fields across records in a single event. If there are cases where we have a standalone record, such as with "unregister", then there is an argument to be made about duplicating some fields that are important in the standalone unregister case. However, this is *only* for those fields which make sense in the standalone kernel unregister event; if the field isn't useful in this unregister corner case *and* it is duplicated in another record type which normally accompanies this record in an event there is no reason it needs to be in this record.
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I also wished we had a coding specification that put this in writing so that every event is not a committee decision. That anyone can look at the document and Do The Right Thing ™.
If I add a section to Writing-Good-Events outlining the expected ordering of fields, would that be enough that we do not have long discussions about event format? I'm thinking this would also help new people that want to contribute.
To be clear, we are not changing any existing record formats; they are part of the kernel/userspace ABI and changing them would break the ABI.
In a perfect world both the audit kernel and userspace would have been designed, implemented, and documented better. Unfortunately it wasn't and we have to live with what we have.
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Re: [PATCH ghak25 v4 3/3] audit: add subj creds to NETFILTER_CFG record to cover async unregister
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We can't be adding deleting fields based on how its triggered. If they are unset, that is fine. The main issue is they have to behave the same.
I don't think the intent was to have fields swing in and out depending on trigger. The idea is to potentially permanently not include them in this record type only. The justification is that where they aren't needed for the kernel trigger situation it made sense to delete them because if it is a user context event it will be accompanied by a syscall record that already has that information and there would be no sense in duplicating it.
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We should not be adding syscall records to anything that does not result from a syscall rule triggering the event. Its very wasteful. More wasteful than just adding the necessary fields.
So what you are saying is you want all the fields that are being proposed to be added to this record?
Yes.
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If the records are all from one event, they all should all have the same timestamp/serial number so that the records are kept together and not mistaken for multiple events.
But NETFILTER_CFG is a simple event known to have only 1 record.
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One reason for having information in seperate records is to be able to filter them either in kernel or in userspace if you don't need certain records.
We can't filter out SYSCALL.
-Steve
Re: [PATCH ghak25 v4 3/3] audit: add subj creds to NETFILTER_CFG record to cover async unregister
In reply to Paul MooreQuoted 18 lines · Paul Moore
Quoted 6 lines · Richard Guy Briggs
Some table unregister actions seem to be initiated by the kernel to garbage collect unused tables that are not initiated by any userspace actions. It was found to be necessary to add the subject credentials to cover this case to reveal the source of these actions. A sample record:
type=NETFILTER_CFG msg=audit(2020-03-11 21:25:21.491:269) : table=nat family=bridge entries=0 op=unregister pid=153 uid=root auid=unset tty=(none) ses=unset subj=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 comm=kworker/u4:2 exe=(null)
[I'm going to comment up here instead of in the code because it is a bit easier for everyone to see what the actual impact might be on the records.]
Steve wants subject info in this case, okay, but let's try to trim out some of the fields which simply don't make sense in this record; I'm thinking of fields that are unset/empty in the kernel case and are duplicates of other records in the userspace/syscall case. I think that means we can drop "tty", "ses", "comm", and "exe" ... yes?
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While "auid" is a potential target for removal based on the dup-or-unset criteria, I think it falls under Steve's request for subject info here, even if it is garbage in this case.
Can you explain why auid falls under this criteria but ses does not if both are unset? If auid is unset then we know ses is unset? If subj contains *:kernel_t:* then uid can also be dropped even though it is set, no? I figure if we are going to start dropping fields, might as well drop enough to make it worth the effort, even though this is a rare event.
As for searchability, I have solved that easily in the parser.
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Signed-off-by Richard Guy Briggs <[email protected]>--- kernel/auditsc.c | 18 ++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 18 insertions(+)kernel/auditsc.c +15
-0@@ -2557,12 +2557,30 @@ void __audit_log_nfcfg(const char *name, u8 af, unsigned int nentries, enum audit_nfcfgop op) {struct audit_buffer *ab; +const struct cred *cred; +struct tty_struct *tty; +char comm[sizeof (current->comm)]; ab =audit_log_start (audit_context (),GFP_KERNEL ,AUDIT_NETFILTER_CFG );if (!ab)return ;audit_log_format (ab,"table=%s family=%u entries=%u op=%s" , name, af, nentries, audit_nfcfgs[op].s); + + cred =current_cred (); + tty =audit_get_tty (); +audit_log_format (ab," pid=%u uid=%u auid=%u tty=%s ses=%u" , +task_pid_nr (current), +from_kuid (&init_user_ns, cred->uid), +from_kuid (&init_user_ns,audit_get_loginuid (current)), + tty ?tty_name (tty) :"(none)" , +audit_get_sessionid (current)); +audit_put_tty (tty); +audit_log_task_context (ab);/* subj= */ +audit_log_format (ab," comm=" );
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-0+audit_log_untrustedstring (ab,get_task_comm (comm, current)); +audit_log_d_path_exe (ab, current->mm);/* exe= */ +audit_log_end (ab); }EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL (__audit_log_nfcfg);paul moore
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Re: [PATCH ghak25 v4 3/3] audit: add subj creds to NETFILTER_CFG record to cover async unregister
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Some table unregister actions seem to be initiated by the kernel to garbage collect unused tables that are not initiated by any userspace actions. It was found to be necessary to add the subject credentials to cover this case to reveal the source of these actions. A sample record:
type=NETFILTER_CFG msg=audit(2020-03-11 21:25:21.491:269) : table=nat family=bridge entries=0 op=unregister pid=153 uid=root auid=unset tty=(none) ses=unset subj=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 comm=kworker/u4:2 exe=(null)
[I'm going to comment up here instead of in the code because it is a bit easier for everyone to see what the actual impact might be on the records.]
Steve wants subject info in this case, okay, but let's try to trim out some of the fields which simply don't make sense in this record; I'm thinking of fields that are unset/empty in the kernel case and are duplicates of other records in the userspace/syscall case. I think that means we can drop "tty", "ses", "comm", and "exe" ... yes?
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While "auid" is a potential target for removal based on the dup-or-unset criteria, I think it falls under Steve's request for subject info here, even if it is garbage in this case.
Can you explain why auid falls under this criteria but ses does not if both are unset? If auid is unset then we know ses is unset? If subj contains *:kernel_t:* then uid can also be dropped even though it is set, no?
That's going to be up to the security module. SELinux may know that a task with a subj= *:kernel_t:* doesn't need an uid, but that's not going to be true with Smack, or if in the (distant?) future you have both SELinux and Smack. Creating a way for the security module to inform the audit system that it believes fields are unnecessary sounds tricky. Not to mention that it's likely to create cases where the audit user-space has to know which, if any, security modules are active.
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I figure if we are going to start dropping fields, might as
well drop enough to make it worth the effort, even though this is a rare event.As for searchability, I have solved that easily in the parser.
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Signed-off-by Richard Guy Briggs <[email protected]>--- kernel/auditsc.c | 18 ++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 18 insertions(+)kernel/auditsc.c +14
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maintainerRe: [PATCH ghak25 v4 3/3] audit: add subj creds to NETFILTER_CFG record to cover async unregister
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Some table unregister actions seem to be initiated by the kernel to garbage collect unused tables that are not initiated by any userspace actions. It was found to be necessary to add the subject credentials to cover this case to reveal the source of these actions. A sample record:
type=NETFILTER_CFG msg=audit(2020-03-11 21:25:21.491:269) : table=nat family=bridge entries=0 op=unregister pid=153 uid=root auid=unset tty=(none) ses=unset subj=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 comm=kworker/u4:2 exe=(null)
[I'm going to comment up here instead of in the code because it is a bit easier for everyone to see what the actual impact might be on the records.]
Steve wants subject info in this case, okay, but let's try to trim out some of the fields which simply don't make sense in this record; I'm thinking of fields that are unset/empty in the kernel case and are duplicates of other records in the userspace/syscall case. I think that means we can drop "tty", "ses", "comm", and "exe" ... yes?
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While "auid" is a potential target for removal based on the dup-or-unset criteria, I think it falls under Steve's request for subject info here, even if it is garbage in this case.
Can you explain why auid falls under this criteria but ses does not if both are unset? If auid is unset then we know ses is unset? If subj contains *:kernel_t:* then uid can also be dropped even though it is set, no?
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That's going to be up to the security module. SELinux may know that a task with a subj= *:kernel_t:* doesn't need an uid, but that's not going to be true with Smack, or if in the (distant?) future you have both SELinux and Smack. Creating a way for the security module to inform the audit system that it believes fields are unnecessary sounds tricky. Not to mention that it's likely to create cases where the audit user-space has to know which, if any, security modules are active.
It is important to remember that in the case we are talking about here the record/event is not triggered by any user action so there is limited to no useful subject information to log. There *may* be an argument to be made for logging the LSM subject info (although I personally feel that to be a weak argument), but there is no reason to log any of the traditional DAC UID/GID/etc. subject info as it simply doesn't exist in this case. When the UID/GID/etc. information does exist, it would be logged via other records in the same event, e.g. the SYSCALL record.
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maintainerRe: [PATCH ghak25 v4 3/3] audit: add subj creds to NETFILTER_CFG record to cover async unregister
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Some table unregister actions seem to be initiated by the kernel to garbage collect unused tables that are not initiated by any userspace actions. It was found to be necessary to add the subject credentials to cover this case to reveal the source of these actions. A sample record:
type=NETFILTER_CFG msg=audit(2020-03-11 21:25:21.491:269) : table=nat family=bridge entries=0 op=unregister pid=153 uid=root auid=unset tty=(none) ses=unset subj=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 comm=kworker/u4:2 exe=(null)
[I'm going to comment up here instead of in the code because it is a bit easier for everyone to see what the actual impact might be on the records.]
Steve wants subject info in this case, okay, but let's try to trim out some of the fields which simply don't make sense in this record; I'm thinking of fields that are unset/empty in the kernel case and are duplicates of other records in the userspace/syscall case. I think that means we can drop "tty", "ses", "comm", and "exe" ... yes?
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While "auid" is a potential target for removal based on the dup-or-unset criteria, I think it falls under Steve's request for subject info here, even if it is garbage in this case.
Can you explain why auid falls under this criteria but ses does not if both are unset?
"While "auid" is a potential target for removal based on the dup-or-unset criteria, I think it falls under Steve's request for subject info here, even if it is garbage in this case."
It's a concession to Steve. As I mentioned previously, I think the subject info is bogus in this case; either it is valid and we get it from the SYSCALL record or it simply isn't present in any meaningful way.
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Re: [PATCH ghak25 v4 3/3] audit: add subj creds to NETFILTER_CFG record to cover async unregister
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Some table unregister actions seem to be initiated by the kernel to garbage collect unused tables that are not initiated by any userspace actions. It was found to be necessary to add the subject credentials to cover this case to reveal the source of these actions. A sample record:
type=NETFILTER_CFG msg=audit(2020-03-11 21:25:21.491:269) : table=nat family=bridge entries=0 op=unregister pid=153 uid=root auid=unset tty=(none) ses=unset subj=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 comm=kworker/u4:2 exe=(null)
[I'm going to comment up here instead of in the code because it is a bit easier for everyone to see what the actual impact might be on the records.]
Steve wants subject info in this case, okay, but let's try to trim out some of the fields which simply don't make sense in this record; I'm thinking of fields that are unset/empty in the kernel case and are duplicates of other records in the userspace/syscall case. I think that means we can drop "tty", "ses", "comm", and "exe" ... yes?
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While "auid" is a potential target for removal based on the dup-or-unset criteria, I think it falls under Steve's request for subject info here, even if it is garbage in this case.
Can you explain why auid falls under this criteria but ses does not if both are unset?
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"While "auid" is a potential target for removal based on the dup-or-unset criteria, I think it falls under Steve's request for subject info here, even if it is garbage in this case."
It's a concession to Steve. As I mentioned previously, I think the subject info is bogus in this case; either it is valid and we get it from the SYSCALL record or it simply isn't present in any meaningful way.
Sorry for being so dense. I still don't follow your explanation. You've repeated the same paragraph that didn't make sense to me the first time.
What definition of "subject info" are you working with? I had assumed it was the set of fields that contain information that came from that task's struct task_struct. Some of those fields contain information that isn't helpful. Why not remove them all rather than keep one that still contains no useful information? Or is it a matter of keeping one key field that contains no useful information that proves that the rest is bogus? Steve said that daemons leave no useful information in auid as well, so I don't see how keeping this field helps us. My understanding is that the subj field's "...:kernel_t:..." is the key here and that pid and comm give us a bit more of a clue that it is a kernel thread. Is that correct? What use does including auid serve here?
I suppose that the uid field is somewhat useful, since the kernel could conceivably switch to a particular user to run a kernel thread. Is that even currently possible?
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Some table unregister actions seem to be initiated by the kernel to garbage collect unused tables that are not initiated by any userspace actions. It was found to be necessary to add the subject credentials to cover this case to reveal the source of these actions. A sample record:
type=NETFILTER_CFG msg=audit(2020-03-11 21:25:21.491:269) : table=nat family=bridge entries=0 op=unregister pid=153 uid=root auid=unset tty=(none) ses=unset subj=system_u:system_r:kernel_t:s0 comm=kworker/u4:2 exe=(null)
[I'm going to comment up here instead of in the code because it is a bit easier for everyone to see what the actual impact might be on the records.]
Steve wants subject info in this case, okay, but let's try to trim out some of the fields which simply don't make sense in this record; I'm thinking of fields that are unset/empty in the kernel case and are duplicates of other records in the userspace/syscall case. I think that means we can drop "tty", "ses", "comm", and "exe" ... yes?
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While "auid" is a potential target for removal based on the dup-or-unset criteria, I think it falls under Steve's request for subject info here, even if it is garbage in this case.
Can you explain why auid falls under this criteria but ses does not if both are unset?
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"While "auid" is a potential target for removal based on the dup-or-unset criteria, I think it falls under Steve's request for subject info here, even if it is garbage in this case."
It's a concession to Steve. As I mentioned previously, I think the subject info is bogus in this case; either it is valid and we get it from the SYSCALL record or it simply isn't present in any meaningful way.
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Sorry for being so dense. I still don't follow your explanation. You've repeated the same paragraph that didn't make sense to me the first time.
What definition of "subject info" are you working with?
The subject is generally the task which is causing the event to occur, "subject info" would be any such attribute which describes the subject; examples include LSM label, the various UIDs/GIDs, etc..
Think "current->cred" and you on the right track.
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it was the set of fields that contain information that came from that task's structtask_struct. Some of those fields contain information that isn't helpful. Why not remove them all rather than keep one that still contains no useful information?
Once again - and I don't know how else to explain this to you - I think it is pointless to record the subject info in this record as we either have that info from other records in the event or there is no valid subject info to record. As you state in the commit description:
"Some table unregister actions seem to be initiated by the
kernel to garbage collect unused tables that are not initiated by any userspace actions."
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Or is it a matter of keeping one
key field that contains no useful information that proves that the rest is bogus? Steve said that daemons leave no useful information in auid as well, so I don't see how keeping this field helps us. My understanding is that the subj field's "...:kernel_t:..." is the key here and that pid and comm give us a bit more of a clue that it is a kernel thread. Is that correct? What use does including auid serve here?
As I've mentioned in the thread above, including the auid was done as a concession to Steve, I don't think it serves any useful purpose.
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