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OT Samium Gromoff 7 participants 7 messages Aug 24, 2001 – Aug 26, 2001

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dear people!

Sorry for OT, but i want only good to you, lkml
people...
If you are to buy a new ide drive, do not buy
recent IBM 7200 drives!!!
The story begins when at February of this year i`ve bought
perfectly shining ever-fast IBM DTLA-307045...
After 3 months i`ve hardly regreted about such
decision: drive started to covers himself with a thick layer of logical-not-physical badblocks (ie lowlevel reformat doesnt show anything).
So i went to storagereview and lerned about the matter.
As i found, these drives had an internal controller bug.

So i said okay, while restoring 3rd time my reiserfs
and dumping data to spare drive, and went to replace the drive to perfectly new and shining IBM IC35L040AVER07-0 also known as 60GXP.

Now i`am heavily punished for that.
Badblocks are reapperaing on runtime.
After they appeared first time i`ve attached large
fan to the drive, so it was cold(!) to touch. Also i stopped to transport the drive between boxes.

Nevertheless these fscking logical badblocks
appeared again twice.

The fact is, that we had bought these drives
with my friend synchronusly, and now he owns quantum drive, after 75gxp and 60gxp...
Ofcourse he had similar problems.... (btw he use windoze)

I am _tired_ fixing my poor reiserfs root partition. I can say that now i`am expert on how to restore
badblocked reiserfs partiotions... ;(

Beware.

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cheers,

Samium Gromoff

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Quoted 2 lines · Samium Gromoff

If you are to buy a new ide drive, do not buy
recent IBM 7200 drives!!!

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Ofcourse he had similar problems.... (btw he use windoze)

This is a known issue that allegedly has nothing to do with the drive, and everything to do with a bug in many ide controllers. I have my 307030 running just fine in windows 2k with an intel i815 board.

I *think* the i8xx N/Sbridge chipsets all work fine with the drives. Mine do. A quick search shows complaints with: BX, amd 751, kt 133a, highpoint chipsets.

Does anyone know what this bug actually is, and whether there's a possible workaround without disabling udma entirely?

justin

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I *think* the i8xx N/Sbridge chipsets all work fine with the drives. Mine do. A quick search shows complaints with: BX, amd 751, kt 133a, chipsets.

BX and 810 are basically identical IDE. I dont think controller has anything to do with drive hardware failures

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Does anyone know what this bug actually is, and whether there's a possible workaround without disabling udma entirely?

There have been multiple reports of problems with drive failures on recent IBM drives with lots of OS's.

Alan

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There have been multiple reports of problems with drive failures on recent IBM drives with lots of OS's.

hmmm... tell me about it. and not even neccessarily recent.

i had 2 IBM DDRS and 1 DGHS 9GB SCSI drives fail on me all in the space of a month. All part of one 3disk raid5 array -> 3/3 failure rate.

wasn't bad power, cause the seagates that were in the same box are still chugging along now, nearly 2 years later. the seagates and 1 quantum that replaced the 3 failed IBMs are also still chugging along.

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Alan

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There have been multiple reports of problems with drive failures on recent IBM drives with lots of OS's.

The following makes me feel all warm and fuzzy:

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[ Damn, maybe I should get one of those nice big 7200 rpm IBM drives ]

http://www.uwsg.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0108.1/0120.html

mrc

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Quoted 43 lines · Samium Gromoff

dear people!

Sorry for OT, but i want only good to you, lkml
people...
If you are to buy a new ide drive, do not buy
recent IBM 7200 drives!!!
The story begins when at February of this year i`ve bought
perfectly shining ever-fast IBM DTLA-307045...
After 3 months i`ve hardly regreted about such
decision: drive started to covers himself with a thick layer of logical-not-physical badblocks (ie lowlevel reformat doesnt show anything).
So i went to storagereview and lerned about the matter.
As i found, these drives had an internal controller bug.

So i said okay, while restoring 3rd time my reiserfs
and dumping data to spare drive, and went to replace the drive to perfectly new and shining IBM IC35L040AVER07-0 also known as 60GXP.

Now i`am heavily punished for that.
Badblocks are reapperaing on runtime.
After they appeared first time i`ve attached large
fan to the drive, so it was cold(!) to touch. Also i stopped to transport the drive between boxes.

Nevertheless these fscking logical badblocks
appeared again twice.

The fact is, that we had bought these drives
with my friend synchronusly, and now he owns quantum drive, after 75gxp and 60gxp...
Ofcourse he had similar problems.... (btw he use windoze)

I am _tired_ fixing my poor reiserfs root partition. I can say that now i`am expert on how to restore
badblocked reiserfs partiotions... ;(

Beware.

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cheers,

Samium Gromoff
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I am confused, you and your friend both had problems, and you used IBM and he used quantum? Do they have similar electronics?

Take a look at www.namesys.com, there is a badblocks patch, [email protected] will tell you details about it.

hans