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DISCUSSION Russ Allbery 2 participants 3 messages Oct 20, 2002 2 messages not in the archive

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Quoted 7 lines · Jeff Garzik

If you keep a copy locally, sure. But the upstream sources, i.e. what's important, you lose rights to even though you may have contributed substantial amounts of code. IOW if binutils goes off in a direction you don't like, for example the FSF changes the license from GPL to Microsoft EULA, you don't have any say in the matter whatsoever. You're left with a code fork based on the last GPL sources and/or the patches you've kept locally.

Jeff, have you read an FSF copyright assignment?

It doesn't just say "I give you all rights to my work so that you can do whatever you want with it."

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Quoted 12 lines · Russ Allbery
Quoted 7 lines · Jeff Garzik

If you keep a copy locally, sure. But the upstream sources, i.e. what's important, you lose rights to even though you may have contributed substantial amounts of code. IOW if binutils goes off in a direction you don't like, for example the FSF changes the license from GPL to Microsoft EULA, you don't have any say in the matter whatsoever. You're left with a code fork based on the last GPL sources and/or the patches you've kept locally.

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Jeff, have you read an FSF copyright assignment?

yes, many times thank you.

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It doesn't just say "I give you all rights to my work so that you can do whatever you want with it."

Indeed. It continues on, to make legally-questionable assertions about source code availability and royalties, that one IP lawyer I spoke with informally thinks is complete bunk. I would like to see "The Foundation promises..." to hold up in any court.

Jeff

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Quoted 4 lines · Jeff Garzik

Indeed. It continues on, to make legally-questionable assertions about source code availability and royalties, that one IP lawyer I spoke with informally thinks is complete bunk. I would like to see "The Foundation promises..." to hold up in any court.

Ah, so rather than it just not addressing any of the stuff you're talking about, it *does* address it but you think that the way it does is legally questionable. Thank you, that's much clearer. I wish you would have said that in the first place.

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