Smart batteries and Acer: list of affected models needed
Hi,
It's likely that I'll get my employer's backing for writing the smart battery driver. However, I need the hardware to begin with, and since Acer Poland is playing hard to get, I need a possibly complete list of all Acer laptops affected in case they have at least one of them to spare for a month or two. Here's those I know of already:
Travelmate 4001WLMi (being phased out, they won't let us have it) Travelmate 8005LMi (supposedly the same as above)
Travelmate 4501WCi
Travelmate 292 (Extensa 2920) (AFAIK phased out)
Extensa 3001 (N/A)
I'm not sure how much longer we'll be able to bug Acer, so I need a couple of models that are 100% sure to contain a smart battery. I'd be a shame to finally manage to get a notebook only to send it back just after.
Alternatively, I'd appreciate a contact address to one of Acer's engineers or anyone capable of providing any useful information.
Best regards,
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Hi Karol ;),
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It's likely that I'll get my employer's backing for writing the smart battery driver.
Those are indeed great news ;))
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Travelmate 4001WLMi (being phased out, they won't let us have it)
Travelmate 4001LMi too. I think all 4001 models use smart batteries.
If you start to write a driver, i don't think i'll be able to help you with the code but i can do all the tests you need in case you get a different laptop model from mine.
regards,
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Hi Karol ;),
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It's likely that I'll get my employer's backing for writing the smart battery driver.
Those are indeed great news ;))
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Travelmate 4001WLMi (being phased out, they won't let us have it)
Travelmate 4001LMi too. I think all 4001 models use smart batteries.
If you start to write a driver, i don't think i'll be able to help you with the code but i can do all the tests you need in case you get a different laptop model from mine.
Same here
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Quoted 12 lines · Karol Kozimor
Hi,
It's likely that I'll get my employer's backing for writing the smart battery driver. However, I need the hardware to begin with, and since Acer Poland is playing hard to get, I need a possibly complete list of all Acer laptops affected in case they have at least one of them to spare for a month or two. Here's those I know of already:
Travelmate 4001WLMi (being phased out, they won't let us have it) Travelmate 8005LMi (supposedly the same as above)
Travelmate 4501WCi
Travelmate 292 (Extensa 2920) (AFAIK phased out)
Extensa 3001 (N/A)
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I'm not sure how much longer we'll be able to bug Acer, so I need a couple of models that are 100% sure to contain a smart battery. I'd be a shame to finally manage to get a notebook only to send it back just after.
Alternatively, I'd appreciate a contact address to one of Acer's engineers or anyone capable of providing any useful information.
Best regards,
mine has a smart battery, it's an acer travelmate 4501LCi i buy this laptop yesterday ^^
if you starts writing this drivers i can test it, and try to help coding (have some c/c++ experience) but i need to learn all the rest, gathering information and study some stuffs.. i'll try.. i really want this so called "smart" battery works
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Quoted 12 lines · Karol Kozimor
Hi,
It's likely that I'll get my employer's backing for writing the smart battery driver. However, I need the hardware to begin with, and since Acer Poland is playing hard to get, I need a possibly complete list of all Acer laptops affected in case they have at least one of them to spare for a month or two. Here's those I know of already:
Travelmate 4001WLMi (being phased out, they won't let us have it) Travelmate 8005LMi (supposedly the same as above)
Travelmate 4501WCi
Travelmate 292 (Extensa 2920) (AFAIK phased out)
Extensa 3001 (N/A)
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I'm not sure how much longer we'll be able to bug Acer, so I need a couple of models that are 100% sure to contain a smart battery. I'd be a shame to finally manage to get a notebook only to send it back just after.
Alternatively, I'd appreciate a contact address to one of Acer's engineers or anyone capable of providing any useful information.
Best regards,
the smart battery driver is one of my projects, but I don't have the time to dedicate to it, so I guess it'll be eternally delayed.
however, I can try to help on anything, either code writing and/or testing. Please note that I am an ABSOLUTE newbie as far as kernel programming is concerned. I've written a kernel module (very, very simple) to learn about some kernel interfaces. Also I've read some ACPI and smartbattery specs, but nothing i could use today.
In just a few words, I am 100% willing to help writing/testing the smartbattery driver. I'm glad I'm not the only one needing it and that the driver can one day exist.
regards,
pedro venda.
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Hi,
Mine is 4001 WLMI, i tried to debug DSDT but this wasn't the problem (only 3 warnings). I have the /proc/acpi/battery empty so I think I've got an smart battery (according to older discussion threads from Pedro Venda and Shaoua Li). I've got no spare time, but i'm able to do some little testing if you need it.
(Sorry for my english, this is the first message I send to a mailing list)
Gerard
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Quoted 12 lines · Karol Kozimor
Hi,
It's likely that I'll get my employer's backing for writing the smart battery driver. However, I need the hardware to begin with, and since Acer Poland is playing hard to get, I need a possibly complete list of all Acer laptops affected in case they have at least one of them to spare for a month or two. Here's those I know of already:
Travelmate 4001WLMi (being phased out, they won't let us have it) Travelmate 8005LMi (supposedly the same as above)
Travelmate 4501WCi
Travelmate 292 (Extensa 2920) (AFAIK phased out)
Extensa 3001 (N/A)Quoted 8 lines
I'm not sure how much longer we'll be able to bug Acer, so I need a couple of models that are 100% sure to contain a smart battery. I'd be a shame to finally manage to get a notebook only to send it back just after.
Alternatively, I'd appreciate a contact address to one of Acer's engineers or anyone capable of providing any useful information.
Best regards,the smart battery driver is one of my projects, but I don't have the time to dedicate to it, so I guess it'll be eternally delayed.
however, I can try to help on anything, either code writing and/or testing. Please note that I am an ABSOLUTE newbie as far as kernel programming is concerned. I've written a kernel module (very, very simple) to learn about some kernel interfaces. Also I've read some ACPI and smartbattery specs, but nothing i could use today.
In just a few words, I am 100% willing to help writing/testing the smartbattery driver. I'm glad I'm not the only one needing it and that the driver can one day exist.
regards,
pedro venda.--
Pedro João Lopes Venda
email: [email protected]
http://arrakis.dhis.org
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| Hi, | It's likely that I'll get my employer's backing for writing the smart | battery driver.
in my dsdt disassembled i get 3 warning... and it contain those lines "Name(_HID,"ACPI0001")", "Name(_HID,"ACPI0002")"
meaning i have a smart battery
my model as i say is a travelmate 4501 lci
can someone tell me where and what documents are a good read (kernel module, acpi, smart battery...), if someone already have collect some material this should be fine. my hope is helping the development...
Sam
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Hash: SHA1Karol Kozimor wrote:
| Hi, | It's likely that I'll get my employer's backing for writing the smart | battery driver.
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in my dsdt disassembled i get 3 warning... and it contain those lines "
Name(_HID,"ACPI0001")", "Name(_HID,"ACPI0002")"
meaning i have a smart battery
my model as i say is a travelmate 4501 lcican someone tell me where and what documents are a good read (kernel module, acpi, smart battery...), if someone already have collect some material this should be fine. my hope is helping the development...
hi,
from what I've collected so far, (probably) the best place to start learning is the acpi specification. it's a good information source if you already know something about kernel programming.
http://www.acpi.info/spec20c.htm
the next best source of information is probably in the sbs-if forum (smart battery system implementers forum).
http://www.sbs-forum.org/specs/sbsm100b.pdf
you'll have do dig in and find out what's useful and what's not.
good luck. for you, for me and for the other smart battery driver developers.
regards,
pedro venda.
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Hi,
as already said in another thread, I have a Travelmate 4001LCi which apparently also has a smart battery. I would also be interested in helping out with testing and maybe some coding though I haven't done any kernel coding either.
Regards,
Johannes
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| Hi, | It's likely that I'll get my employer's backing for writing the smart | battery driver.in my dsdt disassembled i get 3 warning... and it contain those lines "
Name(_HID,"ACPI0001")", "Name(_HID,"ACPI0002")"
meaning i have a smart battery
my model as i say is a travelmate 4501 lcican someone tell me where and what documents are a good read (kernel module, acpi, smart battery...), if someone already have collect some material this should be fine. my hope is helping the development...
Sam
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Quoted 12 lines · Karol Kozimor
Hi,
It's likely that I'll get my employer's backing for writing the smart battery driver. However, I need the hardware to begin with, and since Acer Poland is playing hard to get, I need a possibly complete list of all Acer laptops affected in case they have at least one of them to spare for a month or two. Here's those I know of already:
Travelmate 4001WLMi (being phased out, they won't let us have it) Travelmate 8005LMi (supposedly the same as above)
Travelmate 4501WCi
Travelmate 292 (Extensa 2920) (AFAIK phased out)
Extensa 3001 (N/A)
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I'm not sure how much longer we'll be able to bug Acer, so I need a couple of models that are 100% sure to contain a smart battery. I'd be a shame to finally manage to get a notebook only to send it back just after.
Alternatively, I'd appreciate a contact address to one of Acer's engineers or anyone capable of providing any useful information.
Best regards,
is there a good method to find out if one has a smartbattery?
it could help people in the forums and in the mailing lists to find out if they have one or not.
a deterministic method to find it out would be very useful.
I can't write one, but if I would try, I'd start by trying to ask for the device presence to the ACPI layer. Is it possible to do this from userland? is there a better way?
regards,
pedro venda.
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Thus wrote Karol Kozimor:
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Alternatively, I'd appreciate a contact address to one of Acer's engineers or anyone capable of providing any useful information.
Just a quick update: Acer Poland decided they didn't really care and they wouldn't let us have any hardware at least until the end of the year. Best regards,
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Thus wrote Karol Kozimor:
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Alternatively, I'd appreciate a contact address to one of Acer's engineers or anyone capable of providing any useful information.
Just a quick update: Acer Poland decided they didn't really care and they wouldn't let us have any hardware at least until the end of the year. Best regards,
Good luck; Acer seem to be absolutely terrible at communicating with the outside world, or at least end-users - I must have spent an hour of hold-time or more altogether just in calls that they cut off before I even spoke to someone.
And when I got through, they either stuck to "we can't help you with this, it's outside of our scope, bring your machine to a repair centre" or "we only support Windows".
In the end, it was easier for me to buy a phonecard and call their offices in Taiwan than it was speaking to the nearest call-centre (the UK), who basically sucked and promised me emails I never received, etc.
I don't think Acer will help.
Oisín
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