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Greetings, everyone. I'm having some issues with getting my bluetooth keyboard and mouse to work, and they're getting rather frustrating. Perhaps someone can help me.

I have a Logitech diNovo media desktop and the matching MX900 mouse, which I am attempting to pair with the internal bluetooth on my Dell Inspiron 8500. I can get them to pair successfully, and even move and type, but the mouse movement is extremely jerky and useless, while the keyboard types erratically and quite often repeats keystrokes.

I'm using a 2.6.12 kernel and the latest bluez in debian unstable (hcid 2.15) along with all the bluetooth modules compiled and ready.

I also usually receive a message saying "Can't create HID control channel: Invalid exchange", along with input output errors and errors about the file descriptor being in a bad state. Sometimes the pin auth system comes up, sometimes it doesn't.

Any help? I'd be happy to provide any additional information needed.

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#1 lore raw

Hi Patrick,

Quoted 10 lines

Greetings, everyone. I'm having some issues with getting my bluetooth keyboard and mouse to work, and they're getting rather frustrating. Perhaps someone can help me.

I have a Logitech diNovo media desktop and the matching MX900 mouse, which I am attempting to pair with the internal bluetooth on my Dell Inspiron 8500. I can get them to pair successfully, and even move and type, but the mouse movement is extremely jerky and useless, while the keyboard types erratically and quite often repeats keystrokes.

Quoted 7 lines

I'm using a 2.6.12 kernel and the latest bluez in debian unstable (hcid 2.15) along with all the bluetooth modules compiled and ready.

I also usually receive a message saying "Can't create HID control
channel: Invalid exchange", along with input output errors and errors about the file descriptor being in a bad state. Sometimes the pin auth system comes up, sometimes it doesn't.

show us the output of "hciconfig -a".

Regards

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Quoted 13 lines · Patrick W. Healy <phealy <at> phealy.com> writes:

Greetings, everyone. I'm having some issues with getting my bluetooth keyboard and mouse to work, and they're getting rather frustrating. Perhaps someone can help me.

I have a Logitech diNovo media desktop and the matching MX900 mouse, which I am attempting to pair with the internal bluetooth on my Dell Inspiron 8500. I can get them to pair successfully, and even move and type, but the mouse movement is extremely jerky and useless, while the keyboard types erratically and quite often repeats keystrokes.

I'm using a 2.6.12 kernel and the latest bluez in debian unstable (hcid 2.15) along with all the bluetooth modules compiled and ready.

Quoted 6 lines

I also usually receive a message saying "Can't create HID control
channel: Invalid exchange", along with input output errors and errors about the file descriptor being in a bad state. Sometimes the pin auth system comes up, sometimes it doesn't.

Any help? I'd be happy to provide any additional information needed.

I've got a Logitech dinovo and it works like a charm on my Dell Latitude D800, I've had some bad experience with an external sitecom dongle (laggy mouse)

You should enable auth and encrypt in hcid.conf, or enable it manually with hciconfig hci0 auth encrypt

If your keyboard / mouse are already associated you should move the mouse around for a while to reconnect and keep pressing enter on the keyboard until it connects. If that failes you should press the connect buttons and start scanning with hidd --search. I'm using kbluepin as pin helper, so I must have a running X server for the association. Your error messages might be related to that (a failing pin helper).

I'm really happy with my dinovo and bluez, it's way better than the apple/widcomm/microsoft bluetooth stacks and I hope this helps.

greetings,
Dick

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#3 lore raw

You know, one thing I just realized I forgot to mention...

When I do get it to pair (which I apparently can't right now), hidd --show lists it as a "boot mode device" even though /var/log/daemon.log shows it as a Logitech MX900.

I have tried it with auth/encrypt on, although I don't think they're on as of the hciconfig -a I just sent.

--
Patrick Healy

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Quoted 11 lines · Patrick W. Healy <phealy <at> phealy.com> writes:

Greetings, everyone. I'm having some issues with getting my bluetooth keyboard and mouse to work, and they're getting rather frustrating. Perhaps someone can help me.

I have a Logitech diNovo media desktop and the matching MX900 mouse, which I am attempting to pair with the internal bluetooth on my Dell Inspiron 8500. I can get them to pair successfully, and even move and type, but the mouse movement is extremely jerky and useless, while the keyboard types erratically and quite often repeats keystrokes.

I'm using a 2.6.12 kernel and the latest bluez in debian unstable (hcid 2.15) along with all the bluetooth modules compiled and ready.

I also usually receive a message saying "Can't create HID control channel: Invalid exchange", along with input output errors and errors about the file descriptor being in a bad state. Sometimes the pin auth system comes up, sometimes it doesn't.

Any help? I'd be happy to provide any additional information needed.

I've got a Logitech dinovo and it works like a charm on my Dell Latitude D800, I've had some bad experience with an external sitecom dongle (laggy mouse)

You should enable auth and encrypt in hcid.conf, or enable it manually with hciconfig hci0 auth encrypt

If your keyboard / mouse are already associated you should move the mouse around for a while to reconnect and keep pressing enter on the keyboard until it connects. If that failes you should press the connect buttons and start scanning with hidd --search. I'm using kbluepin as pin helper, so I must have a running X server for the association. Your error messages might be related to that (a failing pin helper).

I'm really happy with my dinovo and bluez, it's way better than the apple/widcomm/microsoft bluetooth stacks and I hope this helps.

greetings, Dick

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#4 lore raw

Hmm. Noticed this on boot:
hci_usb: Unknown symbol hci_free_dev
hci_usb: Unknown symbol hci_alloc_dev
hci_usb: Unknown symbol hci_unregister_dev
hci_usb: Unknown symbol hci_register_dev
hci_usb: Unknown symbol hci_free_dev
hci_usb: Unknown symbol hci_alloc_dev
hci_usb: Unknown symbol hci_unregister_dev
hci_usb: Unknown symbol hci_register_dev

Interesting, anyone?

Quoted 45 lines · Patrick W. Healy

You know, one thing I just realized I forgot to mention...

When I do get it to pair (which I apparently can't right now), hidd --show lists it as a "boot mode device" even though /var/log/daemon.log shows it as a Logitech MX900.

I have tried it with auth/encrypt on, although I don't think they're on as of the hciconfig -a I just sent.

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Quoted 11 lines · Dick
Quoted 1 line · Patrick W. Healy <phealy <at> phealy.com> writes:

Greetings, everyone. I'm having some issues with getting my bluetooth keyboard and mouse to work, and they're getting rather frustrating. Perhaps someone can help me. I have a Logitech diNovo media desktop and the matching MX900 mouse, which I am attempting to pair with the internal bluetooth on my Dell Inspiron 8500. I can get them to pair successfully, and even move and type, but the mouse movement is extremely jerky and useless, while the keyboard types erratically and quite often repeats keystrokes. I'm using a 2.6.12 kernel and the latest bluez in debian unstable (hcid 2.15) along with all the bluetooth modules compiled and ready. I also usually receive a message saying "Can't create HID control channel: Invalid exchange", along with input output errors and errors about the file descriptor being in a bad state. Sometimes the pin auth system comes up, sometimes it doesn't. Any help? I'd be happy to provide any additional information needed.

I've got a Logitech dinovo and it works like a charm on my Dell
Latitude D800, I've had some bad experience with an external sitecom dongle (laggy mouse) You should enable auth and encrypt in hcid.conf, or enable it manually with hciconfig hci0 auth encrypt If your keyboard / mouse are already associated you should move the mouse around for a while to reconnect and keep pressing enter on the keyboard until it connects. If that failes you should press the connect buttons and start scanning with hidd
--search. I'm using kbluepin as pin helper, so I must have a running
X server for the association. Your error messages might be related to that (a failing pin helper). I'm really happy with my dinovo and bluez, it's way better than the apple/widcomm/microsoft bluetooth stacks and I hope this helps.
greetings, Dick

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Hi Patrick,

Quoted 11 lines

Hmm. Noticed this on boot:
hci_usb: Unknown symbol hci_free_dev
hci_usb: Unknown symbol hci_alloc_dev
hci_usb: Unknown symbol hci_unregister_dev
hci_usb: Unknown symbol hci_register_dev
hci_usb: Unknown symbol hci_free_dev
hci_usb: Unknown symbol hci_alloc_dev
hci_usb: Unknown symbol hci_unregister_dev
hci_usb: Unknown symbol hci_register_dev

Interesting, anyone?

this happens sometimes and some not. I have no idea why.

Regards

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Here's a really weird one:

Used hcitool cc to connect to my mediapad, authed it, got a valid link key:

Jul  9 17:09:07 localhost hcid[7758]: link_key_request (sba=00:10:C6:3B:0B:95, dba=00:07:61:12:60:11)
Jul  9 17:09:07 localhost hcid[7758]: pin_code_request (sba=00:10:C6:3B:0B:95, dba=00:07:61:12:60:11)
Jul  9 17:09:13 localhost hcid[7758]: link_key_notify (sba=00:10:C6:3B:0B:95)
Jul  9 17:09:13 localhost hcid[7758]: Saving link key 00:10:C6:3B:0B:95 00:07:61:12:60:11

hciconfig -a shows:
hci0: Type: USB

       BD Address: 00:10:C6:3B:0B:95 ACL MTU: 192:8 SCO MTU: 64:8
       UP RUNNING PSCAN ISCAN AUTH ENCRYPT
       RX bytes:5867 acl:236 sco:0 events:195 errors:0
       TX bytes:2150 acl:47 sco:0 commands:47 errors:0
       Features: 0xff 0xff 0x0f 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
       Packet type: DM1 DM3 DM5 DH1 DH3 DH5 HV1 HV2 HV3
       Link policy: RSWITCH HOLD SNIFF PARK
       Link mode: SLAVE ACCEPT
       Name: 'nimitz-0'
       Class: 0x3e0100
       Service Classes: Networking, Rendering, Capturing
       Device Class: Computer, Uncategorized
       HCI Ver: 1.1 (0x1) HCI Rev: 0x235 LMP Ver: 1.1 (0x1) LMP Subver: 

0x235
Manufacturer: Cambridge Silicon Radio (10)

hcitool con shows:
Connections:

       < ACL 00:07:61:12:60:11 handle 41 state 1 lm MASTER AUTH ENCRYPT

Immediately after all this, hidd --search returns "No devices in range or visible"... yet my mediapad lets me type WHILE it is searching. As soon as it's done searching, it quits. After three more searches, hidd --search returns "Can't create HID control channel: Connection refused"

hidd --show then returns:
00:07:61:12:60:11 HID Boot Device [046d:b3e1] connected [boot-protocol]

and the keyboard works, albeit with horrendous (15 seconds) lag between my typing and it appearing on screen, along with fairly frequent key repeats (key acts like I'm just holding it down for 15 seconds or so).

If I push the connect button and then do hidd --search, hidd displays the following:
Searching ...

       Connecting to device 00:07:61:12:60:11
then the pin request window comes up... I put in 1234 on the computer, then am prompted for a pin by the mediapad. I put in 1234, get the 'connected' light, and see the following in /var/log/daemon.log:
Jul  9 17:18:34 localhost hcid[7758]: link_key_request (sba=00:10:C6:3B:0B:95, dba=00:07:61:12:60:11)
Jul  9 17:18:34 localhost hcid[7758]: pin_code_request (sba=00:10:C6:3B:0B:95, dba=00:07:61:12:60:11)
Jul  9 17:18:40 localhost hcid[7758]: link_key_notify (sba=00:10:C6:3B:0B:95)
Jul  9 17:18:40 localhost hcid[7758]: Replacing link key 00:10:C6:3B:0B:95 00:07:61:12:60:11

after about another 30 seconds or so, hidd --search returns with "HID create error 110 (Connection timed out)"

Hope this is enough information for someone to assist me on this. It's getting really frustrating, because using my laptop's internal keyboard hurts my wrists. If I can't get it working in the next few days I'll have to go back to windows on this system (and that would make me very sad).

Thanks!

Patrick Healy

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Hi Patrick,

Quoted 9 lines

Used hcitool cc to connect to my mediapad, authed it, got a valid link key:

Jul  9 17:09:07 localhost hcid[7758]: link_key_request 
(sba=00:10:C6:3B:0B:95, dba=00:07:61:12:60:11)
Jul  9 17:09:07 localhost hcid[7758]: pin_code_request 
(sba=00:10:C6:3B:0B:95, dba=00:07:61:12:60:11)
Jul  9 17:09:13 localhost hcid[7758]: link_key_notify 
(sba=00:10:C6:3B:0B:95)
Jul  9 17:09:13 localhost hcid[7758]: Saving link key 00:10:C6:3B:0B:95 

00:07:61:12:60:11

don't use "hcitool cc" for creating a connection. This is a testing command only and the kernel will create the low-level ACL connections if needed.

Quoted 15 lines

hciconfig -a shows:
hci0: Type: USB

        BD Address: 00:10:C6:3B:0B:95 ACL MTU: 192:8 SCO MTU: 64:8
        UP RUNNING PSCAN ISCAN AUTH ENCRYPT
        RX bytes:5867 acl:236 sco:0 events:195 errors:0
        TX bytes:2150 acl:47 sco:0 commands:47 errors:0
        Features: 0xff 0xff 0x0f 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
        Packet type: DM1 DM3 DM5 DH1 DH3 DH5 HV1 HV2 HV3
        Link policy: RSWITCH HOLD SNIFF PARK
        Link mode: SLAVE ACCEPT
        Name: 'nimitz-0'
        Class: 0x3e0100
        Service Classes: Networking, Rendering, Capturing
        Device Class: Computer, Uncategorized
        HCI Ver: 1.1 (0x1) HCI Rev: 0x235 LMP Ver: 1.1 (0x1) LMP Subver: 
Quoted 2 lines

0x235
Manufacturer: Cambridge Silicon Radio (10)

If you enable AUTH and ENCRYPT you set your local device into security mode 3. Do this only if you really know what you are doing.

Quoted 8 lines

hcitool con shows:
Connections:

        < ACL 00:07:61:12:60:11 handle 41 state 1 lm MASTER AUTH ENCRYPT

Immediately after all this, hidd --search returns "No devices in range or visible"... yet my mediapad lets me type WHILE it is searching. As soon as it's done searching, it quits. After three more searches, hidd --search returns "Can't create HID control channel: Connection refused"

What do you expect to find if you are already connected?

Quoted 14 lines

If I push the connect button and then do hidd --search, hidd displays the following:
Searching ...

        Connecting to device 00:07:61:12:60:11
then the pin request window comes up... I put in 1234 on the computer, 
then am prompted for a pin by the mediapad. I put in 1234, get the 
'connected' light, and see the following in /var/log/daemon.log:
Jul  9 17:18:34 localhost hcid[7758]: link_key_request 
(sba=00:10:C6:3B:0B:95, dba=00:07:61:12:60:11)
Jul  9 17:18:34 localhost hcid[7758]: pin_code_request 
(sba=00:10:C6:3B:0B:95, dba=00:07:61:12:60:11)
Jul  9 17:18:40 localhost hcid[7758]: link_key_notify 
(sba=00:10:C6:3B:0B:95)
Jul  9 17:18:40 localhost hcid[7758]: Replacing link key 
Quoted 4 lines

00:10:C6:3B:0B:95 00:07:61:12:60:11

after about another 30 seconds or so, hidd --search returns with "HID create error 110 (Connection timed out)"

For what reason are you always searching? If you are connected once then you never have to worry about it again. All further re-connects will be handles by a running "hidd --server".

Use "hcidump -X -V" to see if something strange happens when the keyboard acts weird.

Regards

Marcel

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#8 lore raw

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I can make a connection, once, for a short time. After I've done so, the connection gets "lost"; it doesn't work until I pull the batteries on the device and reconnect with hidd --search. Could you possibly direct me somewhere to an exact set of steps to try so that I can try exactly what you know should work?

Thanks,

Patrick

Quoted 83 lines · Marcel Holtmann

Hi Patrick,

Quoted 7 lines

Used hcitool cc to connect to my mediapad, authed it, got a valid link key:

Jul  9 17:09:07 localhost hcid[7758]: link_key_request (sba=00:10:C6:3B:0B:95, dba=00:07:61:12:60:11)
Jul  9 17:09:07 localhost hcid[7758]: pin_code_request (sba=00:10:C6:3B:0B:95, dba=00:07:61:12:60:11)
Jul  9 17:09:13 localhost hcid[7758]: link_key_notify (sba=00:10:C6:3B:0B:95)
Jul  9 17:09:13 localhost hcid[7758]: Saving link key 00:10:C6:3B:0B:95 00:07:61:12:60:11

don't use "hcitool cc" for creating a connection. This is a testing command only and the kernel will create the low-level ACL connections if needed.

Quoted 15 lines

hciconfig -a shows:
hci0: Type: USB

       BD Address: 00:10:C6:3B:0B:95 ACL MTU: 192:8 SCO MTU: 64:8
       UP RUNNING PSCAN ISCAN AUTH ENCRYPT
       RX bytes:5867 acl:236 sco:0 events:195 errors:0
       TX bytes:2150 acl:47 sco:0 commands:47 errors:0
       Features: 0xff 0xff 0x0f 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
       Packet type: DM1 DM3 DM5 DH1 DH3 DH5 HV1 HV2 HV3
       Link policy: RSWITCH HOLD SNIFF PARK
       Link mode: SLAVE ACCEPT
       Name: 'nimitz-0'
       Class: 0x3e0100
       Service Classes: Networking, Rendering, Capturing
       Device Class: Computer, Uncategorized
       HCI Ver: 1.1 (0x1) HCI Rev: 0x235 LMP Ver: 1.1 (0x1) LMP Subver: 
Quoted 4 lines

0x235
Manufacturer: Cambridge Silicon Radio (10)

If you enable AUTH and ENCRYPT you set your local device into security mode 3. Do this only if you really know what you are doing.

Quoted 8 lines

hcitool con shows:
Connections:

       < ACL 00:07:61:12:60:11 handle 41 state 1 lm MASTER AUTH ENCRYPT

Immediately after all this, hidd --search returns "No devices in range or visible"... yet my mediapad lets me type WHILE it is searching. As soon as it's done searching, it quits. After three more searches, hidd --search returns "Can't create HID control channel: Connection refused"

What do you expect to find if you are already connected?

Quoted 12 lines

If I push the connect button and then do hidd --search, hidd displays the following:
Searching ...

       Connecting to device 00:07:61:12:60:11
then the pin request window comes up... I put in 1234 on the computer, then am prompted for a pin by the mediapad. I put in 1234, get the 'connected' light, and see the following in /var/log/daemon.log:
Jul  9 17:18:34 localhost hcid[7758]: link_key_request (sba=00:10:C6:3B:0B:95, dba=00:07:61:12:60:11)
Jul  9 17:18:34 localhost hcid[7758]: pin_code_request (sba=00:10:C6:3B:0B:95, dba=00:07:61:12:60:11)
Jul  9 17:18:40 localhost hcid[7758]: link_key_notify (sba=00:10:C6:3B:0B:95)
Jul  9 17:18:40 localhost hcid[7758]: Replacing link key 00:10:C6:3B:0B:95 00:07:61:12:60:11

after about another 30 seconds or so, hidd --search returns with "HID create error 110 (Connection timed out)"

For what reason are you always searching? If you are connected once then you never have to worry about it again. All further re-connects will be handles by a running "hidd --server".

Use "hcidump -X -V" to see if something strange happens when the keyboard acts weird.

Regards

Marcel

Quoted 10 lines

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#9 lore raw

Hi Patrick,

Quoted 5 lines

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I can make a connection, once, for a short time. After I've done so, the connection gets "lost"; it doesn't work until I pull the batteries on the device and reconnect with hidd --search. Could you possibly direct me somewhere to an exact set of steps to try so that I can try exactly what you know should work?

do you have a "hidd --server" running as root? Provide "hcidump -X -V" output for your problem.

Regards

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