Hamlib 1.2.5 released
Quoted 18 lines · Douglas Cole
Thanks so much for yours and others hard work Stephane, I wish I was a programmer and could actually do something with Hamlib, but since I am just a Linux user, and still have not figured out how to send commands to my radio's (FT100d and FT847) using minicom, I am not able to utilize them (hamlib)...
But then again, I may be missing something, and just have not spent enough time on this, but what I would like is to remotely control my radio's with a graphical interface (ncurses) and have a PTT button on the screen and running some sort of VOIP software so I can remotely control and talk through my desktop pc via 802.11x to my radio remotely located at a location in an area where I can have large antenna's .
But then again, I guess I just need to spend more time on it, I suppose all the tools are there, I just need to learn how to use them...
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Any pointers on tools that may allow me to fulfill my dream?
Oh and they have to be Linux tools, not Microsoft ones...
tia for any input!
Doug
N7BFS
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Hello
I am trying to do exactly the same thing. I cannot drill the walls in my apartment so I will leave my rig (yaesu 817) close to the antenna, with its serial port and mic/spk connected to an old pentium.
I have managed to make grig-hamlib work under debian 3.1 with my ft 817, see: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1449631&forum_id=80395
A straight-through way to solve the audio link is gnomemeeting, which works very fine in a lan. You can even have the rig, swr meter or anything else monitored with a webcam. There are other ways to send audio between linux machines through a network, in a kind of "virtual soundcard", but I have not explored them.
As an alternative, you could use a wireless rs232 link via ISM transceivers and you could also send the audio with the help of a cordless phone just like here:
http://www.grynx.com/index.php/projects/siemens-skype/
regards
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Quoted 8 lines · Ricardo Saiz Villoria
Hello
I am trying to do exactly the same thing. I cannot drill the walls in my apartment so I will leave my rig (yaesu 817) close to the antenna, with its serial port and mic/spk connected to an old pentium.
I have managed to make grig-hamlib work under debian 3.1 with my ft 817,
see: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1449631&forum_id=80395
I like the idea of Grig, but I think it requires running X and Gnome, which I had hoped not to do, since what I am going to be doing will be on a low bandwidth link, but I will give it a look and see if I can run it via an VNC session, I was hoping to get something going with an ncurses interface so that X did not have to be running...
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A straight-through way to solve the audio link is gnomemeeting, which works very fine in a lan. You can even have the rig, swr meter or anything else monitored with a webcam. There are other ways to send audio between linux machines through a network, in a kind of "virtual soundcard", but I have not explored them.
this is something I have considered, but then for that matter there are allot of other ways to do it too, I was hoping for something that did not require too many proggies 'strung' together, so that I could make it run fairly easy in an emergency...
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As an alternative, you could use a wireless rs232 link via ISM transceivers and you could also send the audio with the help of a cordless phone just like here:
Since the proximity of the FT100d would be about 10 miles or greater, I don't think the above would work for me, but is worth looking at, my goal is to use an private 802.11b link via vpn tunnel, so all I would have to link to the remote site would be TCP/IP, and then at the site would be the pc and the radio and the interface between them. I was hoping there might be something out there similar to what is being done in the Microsoft Windows world with remote controlled radio's via TCP/IP, but I guess its just not there with Linux yet.
I can't complain though, as you have indicated, all the tools are there, I just need to figure out how to glue them all together to get the results I need...
Thanks for the input!
73
Doug
N7BFS
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Quoted 6 lines · Ricardo Saiz Villoria
Hello
I am trying to do exactly the same thing. I cannot drill the walls in my apartment so I will leave my rig (yaesu 817) close to the antenna, with its serial port and mic/spk connected to an old pentium.
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I have managed to make grig-hamlib work under debian 3.1 with my ft 817,
see: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1449631&forum_id=80395I like the idea of Grig, but I think it requires running X and Gnome, which I had hoped not to do, since what I am going to be doing will be on a low bandwidth link, but I will give it a look and see if I can run it via an VNC session, I was hoping to get something going with an ncurses interface so that X did not have to be running...
At the risk of sounding low tech, you could use a telnet/ssh session to the remote PC and run rigctl to change settings. Not the flashy monitoring of grig or an ncurses interface, but it would get the job done.
You still have to get the audio to and from the radio....
73,
Pat KB8PYM
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At the risk of sounding low tech, you could use a telnet/ssh session to the remote PC and run rigctl to change settings. Not the flashy monitoring of grig or an ncurses interface, but it would get the job done.
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You still have to get the audio to and from the radio....
73,
Pat KB8PYM
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Thanks for the input Patrick, yes, that is probably my short-term solution, and having the radio audio lines connected to some RF link, but I wanted to remove that part of it, so my audio would have a simpler route via VOIP/ROIP conversion, since I will already have that 802.11b link why not send it all over that link...
Anyway, some day I will get it up and running, I just wish I was smart enough to roll my own software, you guys make it all sound so easy, but unfortunately the cold reality for me, is that its not...
73 and thanks for the input!
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Doug
N7BFS
Quoted 4 lines · Douglas Cole
but I wanted to remove that part of it, so my audio would have a simpler route via VOIP/ROIP conversion, since I will already have that 802.11b link why not send it all over that link...
Just ran across http://www.openh323.org
There is a command line H.323 client listed called OhPhone that might handle the audio for you.
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Patrick Ouellette [email protected] [email protected] Amateur Radio: KB8PYM Living life to a Jimmy Buffett soundtrack "Crank the amp to 11, this needs more cowbell - and a llama wouldn't hurt either"
Quoted 10 lines · Patrick A. Ouellette
At the risk of sounding low tech, you could use a telnet/ssh session to the remote PC and run rigctl to change settings. Not the flashy monitoring of grig or an ncurses interface, but it would get the job done.
You still have to get the audio to and from the radio....
73,
Pat KB8PYM
It is easier than that: the hamlib can talk to grig by rpc via udp packets across a network. So the required network bandwidth is close to that of the rs232 link.
You can control your rig in these ways:
rigctl : with commands
grig : graphically; grig calls rigctl in the background
rpc.rigd : the daemon stays listening for udp packets followed by:
grig -m 1901 -r <host> : grig in local or remote machine
or:
rigctl -m 1901 -r <host> : command line in local or remote machine
ophone and gnomemeeting both use h.323
For one-way audio broadcast you can use liveice/icecast and listen with an mp3 player as xmms.
73 Ricardo
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Quoted 20 lines · Ricardo Saiz Villoria
Quoted 10 lines · Patrick A. Ouellette
At the risk of sounding low tech, you could use a telnet/ssh session to the remote PC and run rigctl to change settings. Not the flashy monitoring of grig or an ncurses interface, but it would get the job done.
You still have to get the audio to and from the radio....
73,
Pat KB8PYM
It is easier than that: the hamlib can talk to grig by rpc via udp packets across a network. So the required network bandwidth is close to that of the rs232 link.
You can control your rig in these ways:
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rigctl : with commands
grig : graphically; grig calls rigctl in the background
rpc.rigd : the daemon stays listening for udp packets followed by:
grig -m 1901 -r <host> : grig in local or remote machine
or:
rigctl -m 1901 -r <host> : command line in local or remote machine
So if I understand your input correctly Ricardo, as long as my network can pass the udp along then I could have grig running on my local desktop pc talking to a remote pc running rigctl and I could control my FT100d via this type of control you show above?
And I could control PTT that way as well?
I guess I need to do some more reading, because I am still trying to wrap my head around making that work, but I guess I need to piece it all together and see if it will play.
This would be very good, then it would just be a matter of streaming audio both ways when needed, I will look into ophone for that part...
Thanks very much for the ideas, this may come to some useable end after all, if I can just glue it all together in some useable form :)
73
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Doug
N7BFS
Quoted 4 lines · Douglas Cole
Thanks very much for the ideas, this may come to some useable end after all, if I can just glue it all together in some useable form :)
If you do get it all working together, and can tear yourself away from the radio long enough, you may be a good person to draft a HOWTO for those who come after you.....
Just a thought :-)
Good Luck & 73
Pat KB8PYM
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Quoted 4 lines · Douglas Cole
Thanks very much for the ideas, this may come to some useable end after all, if I can just glue it all together in some useable form :)
If you do get it all working together, and can tear yourself away from the radio long enough, you may be a good person to draft a HOWTO for those who come after you.....
Just a thought :-)
Better write notes _as_ you do it, else all the nitty gritty details will be forever lost in what we laughingly call human "memory".
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Quoted 8 lines · On 3/1/06, Curt, WE7U <[email protected]> wrote:
Quoted 6 lines · Patrick A. Ouellette
Quoted 4 lines · Douglas Cole
Thanks very much for the ideas, this may come to some useable end after all, if I can just glue it all together in some useable form :)
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If you do get it all working together, and can tear yourself away from the radio long enough, you may be a good person to draft a HOWTO for those who come after you.....
Just a thought :-)
Better write notes _as_ you do it, else all the nitty gritty details will be forever lost in what we laughingly call human "memory".
Thanks Curt, I am trying to get into the habit of doing that, since I tend to "burn" my way through a project and end up trying many different ways to get my goal accomplished, some things work, others don't, and I tend to forget which ones did, and didn't, so keeping notes as I go has been one of those things I am trying to force myself to do, otherwise, yes, I lose it to my 'memory'...
Three foot by four foot 'post-it' sheets that I stick to the wall, help me write down the flow of things, and I can see how I go about doing something, but I am far from good at it, but I am trying...
Maybe back in the 70's when I was first exposed to programming in Fortran and Cobol, if I had stuck with it rather than giving up in frustration, maybe my mind would have a better handle on structuring flow in my head, but I do have a hard time dealing with complex systems that have many pieces all working together, unless I can draw a diagram on the wall to keep me in check...
And yes, Patrick, documenting is one of those things I am trying hard to improve upon, in my line of work it is one of the least attended to by those I work with and have worked with, we are truly overwhelmed to the point of not being given time to document what we do, and our work suffers because of it.
Ok, end of break (yes I gave myself a break today!)...
73
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Doug
N7BFS