linux-ata.org contributions
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What do you guys think about a git tree for linux-ata.org web pages, rather than a wiki? A git tree would be my preference.
Whenever you want to update or add a page, just send a 'git pull' request to me...
As I noted to Tejun in IRC, the main caveat towards contributing to linux-ata.org -- in any fashion, git or wiki or whatever -- is that I would like to continue to have google adsense ads there. They help pay for the non-Red Hat dedicated server that handles these web pages.
Additional disclosures follow, so that you may align or avoid as your ethics dictates...
Disclosure #1: income from linux-ata.org: Aug US$31, Sep US$38, Oct US$37
Disclosure #2: the dedicated server in question also handles my email (which is intentionally not on Red Hat machines) and other sites like linux.yyz.us.
Disclosure #3: All this is done under the copyright and onus of "Dunvegan Media, Inc." which is really me and nobody else. The company was started to put a corporate face on the lulu.com and AdSense stuff, and to give myself practice at running a business. It also does a bit of email and DNS hosting for some friends, but the vast majority of usage is my linux stuff. The company has always been [if only slightly] cash flow negative, so its not like I'm getting rich off this. :)
Jeff
Quoted 1 line · Jeff Garzik
Whenever you want to update or add a page, just send a 'git pull' request to me...
Or patches, if you wish to avoid git.
Jeff
Quoted 6 lines · On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:11:39 -0500 Jeff Garzik <[email protected]> wrote:
Quoted 2 lines · Jeff Garzik
Whenever you want to update or add a page, just send a 'git pull' request to me...
Or patches, if you wish to avoid git.
Bad idea IMHO
You ask Jeff to pull some updates, they go wrong, the website looks a mess, Jeff goes to the pub.
There's an immediacy about the display of web content that often benefits from an immediacy of updates/fixing. The web just isn't batch processed.
Quoted 8 lines · Alan Cox
Quoted 4 lines · On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:11:39 -0500 Jeff Garzik <[email protected]> wrote:
Quoted 1 line · Jeff Garzik
Whenever you want to update or add a page, just send a 'git pull' request to me...
Or patches, if you wish to avoid git.
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Bad idea IMHO
You ask Jeff to pull some updates, they go wrong, the website looks a mess, Jeff goes to the pub.
There's an immediacy about the display of web content that often benefits from an immediacy of updates/fixing. The web just isn't batch processed.
I wouldn't push it out unless it looked OK in my browser.
But overall I tend to dislike wikis. They enable collaboration, but tend to be uniformly ugly, cumbersome, and CPU intensive.
Jeff
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There's an immediacy about the display of web content that often benefits from an immediacy of updates/fixing. The web just isn't batch processed.
I wouldn't push it out unless it looked OK in my browser.
But if you miss something (as will inevitably happen) and go away the results are not good.
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But overall I tend to dislike wikis. They enable collaboration, but tend to be uniformly ugly, cumbersome, and CPU intensive.
I'm not saying wiki is the answer but that git is not the answer. Not unless the people updating the site can trigger updates immediately
Quoted 15 lines · Jeff Garzik
Quoted 14 lines · Alan Cox
Quoted 5 lines · On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:11:39 -0500 Jeff Garzik <[email protected]> wrote:
Quoted 2 lines · Jeff Garzik
Whenever you want to update or add a page, just send a 'git pull' request to me...
Or patches, if you wish to avoid git.
Bad idea IMHO
You ask Jeff to pull some updates, they go wrong, the website looks a mess, Jeff goes to the pub.
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There's an immediacy about the display of web content that often benefits from an immediacy of updates/fixing. The web just isn't batch processed.
I wouldn't push it out unless it looked OK in my browser.
But overall I tend to dislike wikis. They enable collaboration, but tend to be uniformly ugly, cumbersome, and CPU intensive.
What about ikiwiki? It's a wiki backed by an RCS, which can be git.
http://ikiwiki.info/ and http://ikiwiki.info/rcs/git/
James Andrewartha
Quoted 4 lines · Jeff Garzik
I wouldn't push it out unless it looked OK in my browser.
But overall I tend to dislike wikis. They enable collaboration, but tend to be uniformly ugly, cumbersome, and CPU intensive.
Besides collaboration, one thing I like about wikis is that updating the page is an one-step process. You can just go there and edit things directly and pages are updated and history is recorded immediately. Compared to normal web pages where you have to go through one or a few iterations of edit -> view -> check in if you wanna -> upload / send pages, it's just more efficient.
Well, I also dislike editing html pages directly and pages generated by openoffice is ugly.
So, my preference is a wiki. I don't care which wiki it is as long as I can edit and view it directly.
Thanks.
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tejun
Quoted 13 lines · Tejun Heo
Quoted 4 lines · Jeff Garzik
I wouldn't push it out unless it looked OK in my browser.
But overall I tend to dislike wikis. They enable collaboration, but tend to be uniformly ugly, cumbersome, and CPU intensive.
Besides collaboration, one thing I like about wikis is that updating the page is an one-step process. You can just go there and edit things directly and pages are updated and history is recorded immediately. Compared to normal web pages where you have to go through one or a few iterations of edit -> view -> check in if you wanna -> upload / send pages, it's just more efficient.
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Well, I also dislike editing html pages directly and pages generated by openoffice is ugly.
So, my preference is a wiki. I don't care which wiki it is as long as I can edit and view it directly.
So noted, it sounds like a wiki it greatly preferred by all involved. I'll look around for one I like.
Expect no action until Nov 16 at the earliest, of course...
Jeff
Quoted 7 lines · Jeff Garzik
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So, my preference is a wiki. I don't care which wiki it is as long as I can edit and view it directly.
So noted, it sounds like a wiki it greatly preferred by all involved. I'll look around for one I like.
Expect no action until Nov 16 at the earliest, of course...
Enjoy your vacation. :-)
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tejun