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linux-dvb Christophe Boyanique 10 participants 42 messages Feb 6, 2008 – Apr 12, 2008 1 message not in the archive Media (V4L/DVB)

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Hello all,

I would just confirm the symptom that Jonas Anden reported on the mailing list a few days ago about the Nova-T 500 loosing one tuner.

Nothing in the logs or dmesg;
MythTV stuck on L__

Host:
Linux 2.6.22-14-generic
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz

v4l from 2008/01/27-16:34

Good news is that since I am using this v4l drivers I have no more disconnection.

Christophe.

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Well...

You can now laugh at me, the supposedly problem-free user...

I managed to get my nova-t-500 to lose a tuner too!

MythTV was recording on tuner 1.

I was channel surfing on tuner 2.

After flipping through a few channels, I got a black screen.

I looked at the logs. MythTV is complaining that the file it uses to watch TV (in fact you never watch the stream from the card, MythTV records the channel in a file, then plays that file) is invalid.

You bet it is invalid, it's mostly not there, or with a size of zero.

I guess that the tuner became non-responsive and thus outputs nothing.

Getting out of "LiveTV" and coming back does not fix it. Trying to go to another channel serves no purpose, MythTV must be desperately trying to get any sort of response from the tuner before sending it any new command.

That was a long "me too", but a "me too" all the same.

Dang !

Oh, my reception quality that used to be ugly has been fixed. I am now a user of a 26dB gain masthead amplifier. My signal strength took a 25% improvement, BER and UNC are zero on all channels. Still using the internal LNA, though; I haven't tried doing without it.

Nico

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Quoted 29 lines · Nicolas Will

Well...

You can now laugh at me, the supposedly problem-free user...

I managed to get my nova-t-500 to lose a tuner too!

MythTV was recording on tuner 1.

I was channel surfing on tuner 2.

After flipping through a few channels, I got a black screen.

I looked at the logs. MythTV is complaining that the file it uses to watch TV (in fact you never watch the stream from the card, MythTV records the channel in a file, then plays that file) is invalid.

You bet it is invalid, it's mostly not there, or with a size of zero.

I guess that the tuner became non-responsive and thus outputs nothing.

Getting out of "LiveTV" and coming back does not fix it. Trying to go to
another channel serves no purpose, MythTV must be desperately trying to
get any sort of response from the tuner before sending it any new command.

That was a long "me too", but a "me too" all the same.

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Dang !

Oh, my reception quality that used to be ugly has been fixed. I am now a
user of a 26dB gain masthead amplifier. My signal strength took a 25% improvement, BER and UNC are zero on all channels. Still using the internal LNA, though; I haven't tried doing without it.

Ah...

It looks like only ITV4 is problematic, even if the other channels on the multiplex are fine.

Maybe a different problem, but the tuner is really lost until a reboot all the same.

I have tried without the LNA, same difference. but it's an opportunity to measure signal and BER without it...

Anybody know about any ITV4 problem on the UK-Durris transmitter?

Nico

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Not too much comfort, but...

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Maybe a different problem, but the tuner is really lost until a reboot all the same.

You don't need to reboot to regain the other tuner. I use the following:

service mythbackend stop
modprobe -r dvb_usb_dib0700
modprobe dvb_usb_dib0700
service mythbackend start

After that, the tuner is back on line.

// J

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Do you have a way to automate this ? Ie to detect that a tuner is gone ?

No, I have yet to find any log message that says things aren't OK.

Mythbackend seems to just fail its recordings and not create the recording file, which is kind of annoying. In my point of view, it would be better if mythbackend would *crash*, since this would make the other backend (which uses analog tuners) take over the recording. It wouldn't be the same quality, but at least the show would be recorded...

// J

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Just wanted to say that I´m experiencing the same.
Using latest rev (the one with patches merged) + unknown remote key patch. Ubuntu 7.10

Also having a lot of "prebuffer timeout 10 times" i the middle of shows.

Quoted 10 lines · Jonas Anden
Quoted 1 line

Do you have a way to automate this ? Ie to detect that a tuner is gone ?

No, I have yet to find any log message that says things aren't OK.

Mythbackend seems to just fail its recordings and not create the recording file, which is kind of annoying. In my point of view, it would be better if mythbackend would *crash*, since this would make the other backend (which uses analog tuners) take over the recording. It wouldn't be the same quality, but at least the show would be recorded...

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// J

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Quoted 5 lines · Patrik Hansson

Just wanted to say that I´m experiencing the same.
Using latest rev (the one with patches merged) + unknown remote key patch. Ubuntu 7.10

Also having a lot of "prebuffer timeout 10 times" i the middle of shows.

I think I might have a workaround... On Mythbuntu or one of the many Ubuntu variants, this seems to work:

1) Run:
lsmod |grep usbcore

2) If step 1 produced any output that started with 'usbcore', then usbcore is loaded as a module. Perform step 3a. Otherwise, step 3b.

3a) Create a text file called /etc/modprobe.d/local-dvb (the name is fairly irrelevant). Insert one line of text into it:
options usbcore autosuspend=-1
Now go to step 4.

3b) Your kernel has usbcore built in. That means you have to modify the kernel command line...
Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst (you'll need to sudo to do this). Search for
this line:
# defoptions=quiet splash
Amend it to read:
# defoptions=quiet splash usbcore.autosuspend=-1
It's meant to be commented out, so leave the hash at the beginning of the
line alone... Save and exit, then run ...
sudo update grub
Ubuntu will regenerate grub.conf, using the new kernel command line. Off
to step 4 you go!

If you're using a non-Debian distro (e.g. Fedora), do the same thing but
edit the 'kernel' line instead. It might read:
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-8-generic root=LABEL=/ ro quiet splash
Change it to:
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-8-generic root=LABEL=/ ro quiet splash
usbcore.autosuspend=-1

4) Reboot your PC.

This is a bit long-winded, but saves a kernel recompile, and a ton of messing around recompiling kernels when Ubuntu do another release.

I'm working on what I consider to be a better fix, which involves using the kernel's Quirks function to disable USB suspend just for the DiBcom controllers. That is, the kernel won't try and suspend them at all...

Thanks,

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Quoted 52 lines · Philip Pemberton
Quoted 5 lines · Patrik Hansson

Just wanted to say that I´m experiencing the same.
Using latest rev (the one with patches merged) + unknown remote key patch. Ubuntu 7.10

Also having a lot of "prebuffer timeout 10 times" i the middle of shows.

I think I might have a workaround... On Mythbuntu or one of the many Ubuntu variants, this seems to work:

1) Run:
lsmod |grep usbcore

2) If step 1 produced any output that started with 'usbcore', then usbcore is loaded as a module. Perform step 3a. Otherwise, step 3b.

3a) Create a text file called /etc/modprobe.d/local-dvb (the name is fairly irrelevant). Insert one line of text into it:
options usbcore autosuspend=-1
Now go to step 4.

3b) Your kernel has usbcore built in. That means you have to modify the kernel command line...
Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst (you'll need to sudo to do this). Search for
this line:
# defoptions=quiet splash
Amend it to read:
# defoptions=quiet splash usbcore.autosuspend=-1
It's meant to be commented out, so leave the hash at the beginning of the
line alone... Save and exit, then run ...
sudo update grub
Ubuntu will regenerate grub.conf, using the new kernel command line. Off
to step 4 you go!

If you're using a non-Debian distro (e.g. Fedora), do the same thing but
edit the 'kernel' line instead. It might read:
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-8-generic root=LABEL=/ ro quiet splash
Change it to:
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-8-generic root=LABEL=/ ro quiet splash
usbcore.autosuspend=-1

4) Reboot your PC.

This is a bit long-winded, but saves a kernel recompile, and a ton of messing around recompiling kernels when Ubuntu do another release.

I'm working on what I consider to be a better fix, which involves using the kernel's Quirks function to disable USB suspend just for the DiBcom controllers. That is, the kernel won't try and suspend them at all...

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It was a module and i put the option i /etc/modprobe.d/options next to options dvb-usb-dib0700 force_lna_activation=1
Running now, will be back with the results.
On a side note:
Could that be the reason debug=15 also might work as a workaround, there is so much traffic that the usb never suspends ? Thanks Phil for the "fix", hope it stays stable..

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Quoted 61 lines · Patrik Hansson
Quoted 52 lines · Philip Pemberton
Quoted 5 lines · Patrik Hansson

Just wanted to say that I´m experiencing the same.
Using latest rev (the one with patches merged) + unknown remote key patch. Ubuntu 7.10

Also having a lot of "prebuffer timeout 10 times" i the middle of shows.

I think I might have a workaround... On Mythbuntu or one of the many Ubuntu variants, this seems to work:

1) Run:
lsmod |grep usbcore

2) If step 1 produced any output that started with 'usbcore', then usbcore is loaded as a module. Perform step 3a. Otherwise, step 3b.

3a) Create a text file called /etc/modprobe.d/local-dvb (the name is fairly irrelevant). Insert one line of text into it:
options usbcore autosuspend=-1
Now go to step 4.

3b) Your kernel has usbcore built in. That means you have to modify the kernel command line...
Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst (you'll need to sudo to do this). Search for
this line:
# defoptions=quiet splash
Amend it to read:
# defoptions=quiet splash usbcore.autosuspend=-1
It's meant to be commented out, so leave the hash at the beginning of the
line alone... Save and exit, then run ...
sudo update grub
Ubuntu will regenerate grub.conf, using the new kernel command line. Off
to step 4 you go!

If you're using a non-Debian distro (e.g. Fedora), do the same thing but
edit the 'kernel' line instead. It might read:
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-8-generic root=LABEL=/ ro quiet splash
Change it to:
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-8-generic root=LABEL=/ ro quiet splash
usbcore.autosuspend=-1

4) Reboot your PC.

This is a bit long-winded, but saves a kernel recompile, and a ton of messing around recompiling kernels when Ubuntu do another release.

I'm working on what I consider to be a better fix, which involves using the kernel's Quirks function to disable USB suspend just for the DiBcom controllers. That is, the kernel won't try and suspend them at all...

Quoted 6 lines

Thanks,
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It was a module and i put the option i /etc/modprobe.d/options next to

options dvb-usb-dib0700 force_lna_activation=1
Running now, will be back with the results.
On a side note:
Could that be the reason debug=15 also might work as a workaround, there is so much traffic that the usb never suspends ? Thanks Phil for the "fix", hope it stays stable..

20:37:40 up 1 day, 8 min ...and counting, both tuners working fine.

There are two:

[14153.150380] mt2060 I2C read failed
[18967.903269] mt2060 I2C read failed

recorded in dmesg but nothing fatal.

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Quoted 6 lines · Patrik Hansson

20:37:40 up 1 day, 8 min ...and counting, both tuners working fine.

There are two:

[14153.150380] mt2060 I2C read failed
[18967.903269] mt2060 I2C read failed

recorded in dmesg but nothing fatal.

philpem@dragon:~$ uptime
  19:06:28 up 23:42,  3 users,  load average: 1.19, 1.22, 1.18

And the log is full of this crap:

Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon syslogd 1.5.0#1ubuntu1: restart.
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.332785] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x14 
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.333946] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x20 
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.432586] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x14 
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.433733] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x20 
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.532380] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x14 
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.533473] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x20 
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.632210] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x14 
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.633301] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x20 
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.731998] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x14 
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.733092] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x20 
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39865.831820] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x14 
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.374256] mt2060 I2C write failed (len=2)
Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.374262] mt2060 I2C write failed (len=6)
Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.374264] mt2060 I2C read failed
Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.382298] mt2060 I2C read failed
Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.390210] mt2060 I2C read failed
Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.398195] mt2060 I2C read failed
Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.406181] mt2060 I2C read failed
Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.414175] mt2060 I2C read failed
Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.422213] mt2060 I2C read failed
Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.430162] mt2060 I2C read failed

And the tuner is utterly shot. It worked for most of one recording, then promptly died.

*sigh*

Patrik, just out of curiosity, what kernel are you running? I'm running 2.6.24-8-generic on Mythbuntu 8.04 alpha 2 and thinking about downgrading to an earlier kernel.

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Quoted 55 lines · Philip Pemberton
philpem@dragon:~$ uptime
  19:06:28 up 23:42,  3 users,  load average: 1.19, 1.22, 1.18

And the log is full of this crap:

Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon syslogd 1.5.0#1ubuntu1: restart.
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.332785] cx24123_readreg:
reg=0x14 
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.333946] cx24123_readreg:
reg=0x20 
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.432586] cx24123_readreg:
reg=0x14 
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.433733] cx24123_readreg:
reg=0x20 
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.532380] cx24123_readreg:
reg=0x14 
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.533473] cx24123_readreg:
reg=0x20 
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.632210] cx24123_readreg:
reg=0x14 
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.633301] cx24123_readreg:
reg=0x20 
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.731998] cx24123_readreg:
reg=0x14 
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.733092] cx24123_readreg:
reg=0x20 
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39865.831820] cx24123_readreg:
reg=0x14 
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.374256] mt2060 I2C write failed
(len=2)
Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.374262] mt2060 I2C write failed
(len=6)
Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.374264] mt2060 I2C read failed
Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.382298] mt2060 I2C read failed
Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.390210] mt2060 I2C read failed
Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.398195] mt2060 I2C read failed
Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.406181] mt2060 I2C read failed
Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.414175] mt2060 I2C read failed
Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.422213] mt2060 I2C read failed
Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.430162] mt2060 I2C read failed

And the tuner is utterly shot. It worked for most of one recording, then
promptly died.

Quoted 6 lines

*sigh*

Patrik, just out of curiosity, what kernel are you running? I'm running 2.6.24-8-generic on Mythbuntu 8.04 alpha 2 and thinking about
downgrading to an earlier kernel.

You do know that the cx24123 module has nothing to do with the Nova-t-500, don't you?

Would you have a DVB-S card in the system as well?

I do, and I have this module loaded too, zero error message involving it, and I'm not really losing any tuner in normal use.

I have
* 1 Hauppauge Nova-t-500
* 1 KWorld DVB-S 100
* Gutsy 64-bit system
* Ubuntu 2.6.22 kernel
* Ubuntu updates+backports
* Medibuntu
* Mythbuntu's 0.20.2-fixes updates
* a recent v4l-dvb tree compiles against the Ubuntu headers.

The only other USB device I am using is an RF transmitter for my keyboard.

All (and I like documenting) details there:

http://www.youplala.net/linux/home-theater-pc

Other than this issue, how's the stability of 0.21 in Hardy? I'm itching... After al,l I ran Gutsy since alpha 2, for hardware support reasons, but I have no real motivation apart from "I want to try the latest and greatest" today.

nico

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Quoted 2 lines · Nicolas Will

You do know that the cx24123 module has nothing to do with the Nova-t-500, don't you?

I know. It's for the HVR-3000's satellite demux.

Quoted 1 line

Would you have a DVB-S card in the system as well?

See above :)

Quoted 4 lines

Other than this issue, how's the stability of 0.21 in Hardy? I'm itching... After al,l I ran Gutsy since alpha 2, for hardware support reasons, but I have no real motivation apart from "I want to try the latest and greatest" today.

Myth itself is quite stable, but Mythbuntu had some issues with the initial 8.04a2 release -- mostly with VNC and setting up the Myth transcoding daemon ('mkdir /var/lib/mythdvd/temp; chmod 777 /var/lib/mythdvd/temp' as root fixed it for me). The LIRC config files for the Nova-T500's remote are a bit mangled, and some buttons don't work by default.

Other than that, ripping DVDs to MPEG files and playing them back results in issues with A/V sync; switching the player to "default player" in File Types seems to have cured that.

Stability-wise, it puts MediaPortal to shame. Feature-wise, it's got everything I need. Once I get the Nova-T500 to behave itself, and MythTV to hibernate (or even shut down completely) and set an ACPI wakeup timer, I'll consider the project 'done' :)

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In reply to Philip Pemberton

Hi

I have exactly the same problem, all seems fine on vdr until I start one recording that use the second timer , I got thousand of message like this one , it seems stg is not well loaded some time, I just have to shutdown vdr, I can see that device disconnect itself on dmesg and all is OK when starting vdr another time ...

hope somebody have a solution for that

Best regards

kernel = 2.6.22.18-desktop586-1mdv on mandriva 2008.0

Le Thursday 28 February 2008 20:11:39 Philip Pemberton, vous avez écrit :

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Quoted 6 lines · Patrik Hansson

20:37:40 up 1 day, 8 min ...and counting, both tuners working fine.

There are two:

[14153.150380] mt2060 I2C read failed
[18967.903269] mt2060 I2C read failed

recorded in dmesg but nothing fatal.

philpem@dragon:~$ uptime
  19:06:28 up 23:42,  3 users,  load average: 1.19, 1.22, 1.18

And the log is full of this crap:

Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon syslogd 1.5.0#1ubuntu1: restart.
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.332785] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x14
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.333946] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x20
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.432586] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x14
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.433733] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x20
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.532380] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x14
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.533473] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x20
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.632210] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x14
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.633301] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x20
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.731998] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x14
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.733092] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x20
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39865.831820] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x14
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.374256] mt2060 I2C write failed

(len=2) Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.374262] mt2060 I2C write failed (len=6) Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.374264] mt2060 I2C read failed Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.382298] mt2060 I2C read failed Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.390210] mt2060 I2C read failed

Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.398195] mt2060 I2C read failed Feb 28

06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.406181] mt2060 I2C read failed Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.414175] mt2060 I2C read failed Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.422213] mt2060 I2C read failed Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.430162] mt2060 I2C read failed

Quoted 8 lines

And the tuner is utterly shot. It worked for most of one recording, then promptly died.

*sigh*

Patrik, just out of curiosity, what kernel are you running? I'm running 2.6.24-8-generic on Mythbuntu 8.04 alpha 2 and thinking about downgrading to an earlier kernel.

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Quoted 73 lines · Dominique P.

Hi

I have exactly the same problem, all seems fine on vdr until I start one recording that use the second timer , I got thousand of message like this one , it seems stg is not well loaded some time, I just have to shutdown vdr, I can see that device disconnect itself on dmesg and all is OK when starting vdr another time ...

hope somebody have a solution for that

Best regards

kernel = 2.6.22.18-desktop586-1mdv on mandriva 2008.0

Le Thursday 28 February 2008 20:11:39 Philip Pemberton, vous avez écrit :

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Quoted 6 lines · Patrik Hansson

20:37:40 up 1 day, 8 min ...and counting, both tuners working fine.

There are two:

[14153.150380] mt2060 I2C read failed
[18967.903269] mt2060 I2C read failed

recorded in dmesg but nothing fatal.

philpem@dragon:~$ uptime
  19:06:28 up 23:42,  3 users,  load average: 1.19, 1.22, 1.18

And the log is full of this crap:

Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon syslogd 1.5.0#1ubuntu1: restart.
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.332785] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x14
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.333946] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x20
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.432586] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x14
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.433733] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x20
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.532380] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x14
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.533473] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x20
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.632210] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x14
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.633301] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x20
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.731998] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x14
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:13 dragon kernel: [39865.733092] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x20
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39865.831820] cx24123_readreg: reg=0x14
(error=-121)
Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.374256] mt2060 I2C write failed

(len=2) Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.374262] mt2060 I2C write failed (len=6) Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.374264] mt2060 I2C read failed Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.382298] mt2060 I2C read failed Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.390210] mt2060 I2C read failed

Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.398195] mt2060 I2C read failed Feb 28

06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.406181] mt2060 I2C read failed Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.414175] mt2060 I2C read failed Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.422213] mt2060 I2C read failed Feb 28 06:29:14 dragon kernel: [39866.430162] mt2060 I2C read failed

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And the tuner is utterly shot. It worked for most of one recording, then promptly died.

*sigh*

Patrik, just out of curiosity, what kernel are you running? I'm running 2.6.24-8-generic on Mythbuntu 8.04 alpha 2 and thinking about downgrading to an earlier kernel.

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1: I got a mailer-daemon reply saing that my ip was spamfiltred (I use gmail?) when replying to what kernel i use.
My kernel is 2.6.22-14-generic

2: This morning I hade L__ on my second tuner.
some more mt2060 I2C read failed in dmesg.

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Quoted 1 line · Ben Firshman

Mine has now been running for a couple of days now without problems, I will

let you know if I lose a tuner.

Strange, mine's still crashing out after a couple of hours. Just out of curiosity...
- What kernel are you running? Distribution? Driver version?
- If you're using MythTV, do you have "Use this card for EIT scanning"
enabled for the T-500?
- What firmware?

Answers are "2.6.24-8-generic", Mythbuntu 8.04 alpha 2, Hg 615ce349999, and
yes (EIT scanning on) for me, and firmware is dvb-usb-dib0700-1.10.fw (in /lib/firmware/2.6.24-8-generic). I'm planning to try dvb-usb-dib0700-03-pre1.fw at some point -- is this older or newer than 1.10 (it's listed on the Wiki as a possible solution to the disconnect issue).

I'm also staring daggers at the VIA USB controller chip on the T500... I've
had nothing but trouble from VIA USB chips, with the possible exception of the
K8T800 Pro on the motherboard in my desktop machine. FWIW, the PVR is based
on a Biostar TA690G board, which uses the AMD/ATI 690G, but I've got a Gainward nVidia GeForce 8400GS PCIe-x16 card in there (because the 690G is a poor excuse for a graphics chip and only just works under Windows, let alone Linux!)

Thanks,

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Quoted 9 lines · Philip Pemberton

Answers are "2.6.24-8-generic", Mythbuntu 8.04 alpha 2, Hg
615ce349999, and
yes (EIT scanning on) for me, and firmware is dvb-usb-dib0700-1.10.fw (in
/lib/firmware/2.6.24-8-generic). I'm planning to try dvb-usb-dib0700-03-pre1.fw at some point -- is this older or newer than 1.10
(it's listed on the Wiki as a possible solution to the disconnect issue).

You should really stick to the 1.10 firmware. 03-pre1 was an earlier test and has more issues.

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Quoted 2 lines · Nicolas Will

You should really stick to the 1.10 firmware. 03-pre1 was an earlier test and has more issues.

Well, I've figured out what was going on.
Seems if you run 'make' against the source tree with one kernel, it will always build modules for said kernel until you run 'make distclean'. I started by building for 2.6.24-8-generic, then upgraded to -10-generic, then to -11-generic, and only did a 'make clean; make; sudo make install' when I rebuilt v4l-dvb, as this worked for Madwifi.

So to summarise, if you're going to reuse the same source tree for multiple kernels, make distclean before making the drivers, or it'll build for the last kernel you built for... Not sure if it installs to the running kernel, but it certainly doesn't use the headers for the running kernel...

But at least the card seems to be behaving now. Up 10 hours with:

options dvb-usb-dib0700 debug=15 force_lna_activation=1 options dvb_usb disable_rc_polling=1
options usbcore autosuspend=-1

I've also blacklisted dvb-usb-dib0700 and modprobe'd it in an rc-script, so my HVR-3000 ends up as device 0 and the two T-500 tuners end up as devices 1 and 2; said shell script also sets up symlinks for the 1st and 2nd front-ends on the HVR to devices 10 and 11, because MythTV doesn't like the idea of a card having multiple front-ends...

The clock is once again running...

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Quoted 2 lines · Nicolas Will

You should really stick to the 1.10 firmware. 03-pre1 was an earlier test and has more issues.

Well, I've figured out what was going on.
Seems if you run 'make' against the source tree with one kernel, it will always build modules for said kernel until you run 'make distclean'. I started by building for 2.6.24-8-generic, then upgraded to -10-generic, then to -11-generic, and only did a 'make clean; make; sudo make install' when I rebuilt v4l-dvb, as this worked for Madwifi.

So to summarise, if you're going to reuse the same source tree for multiple kernels, make distclean before making the drivers, or it'll build for the last kernel you built for... Not sure if it installs to the running kernel, but it certainly doesn't use the headers for the running kernel...

But at least the card seems to be behaving now. Up 10 hours with:

options dvb-usb-dib0700 debug=15 force_lna_activation=1

options dvb_usb disable_rc_polling=1
options usbcore autosuspend=-1

I've also blacklisted dvb-usb-dib0700 and modprobe'd it in an rc-script, so my HVR-3000 ends up as device 0 and the two T-500 tuners end up as devices 1 and 2; said shell script also sets up symlinks for the 1st and 2nd front-ends on the HVR to devices 10 and 11, because MythTV doesn't like the idea of a card having multiple front-ends...

The clock is once again running...

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When i started using options usbcore autosuspend=-1 i deactivated debug=15 Will reactivate it again and reset my clock also.

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Quoted 2 lines · Patrik Hansson

When i started using options usbcore autosuspend=-1 i deactivated debug=15 Will reactivate it again and reset my clock also.

Just had a USB disconnect..

Switched MythTV to BBC HD, CPU load hit 100% and video jittered like mad. Switched back to Freeview via the Nova, both tuners down. USB disconnect and I2C errors in dmesg. Killed off mythbackend and the T500 re-attached, but wouldn't work (continuous disconnects whenever I loaded mythbackend) until I killed mythbackend, rmmod'ed dvb-usb-dib0700, then modprobed dvb-usb-dib0700 and restarted mythbackend.

I've disabled EIT scanning on all but one of the Nova-T500 tuners, and set "open on demand" for both Nova-T500 tuners and both HVR-3000 tuners.

If Myth isn't holding the tuner open, maybe it'll be a little more tolerant of this kind of glitch.. but it doesn't seem to switch to another tuner on the same source if one is dead, it just keeps hammering the same tuner over and over until it gives up... Urgh.

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Quoted 2 lines · Patrik Hansson

When i started using options usbcore autosuspend=-1 i deactivated debug=15 Will reactivate it again and reset my clock also.

Well, changing channels on Myth seems to provoke it into failing... and it usually kills both tuners at the same time. Something is very badly wrong with this thing...

I think I'm going to move the T500 into my Windows PC and buy a couple of cheap USB sticks for Freeview. This has gone on long enough.

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Quoted 1 line · Patrik Hansson

When i started using options usbcore autosuspend=-1 i deactivated

debug=15

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Will reactivate it again and reset my clock also.

Well, changing channels on Myth seems to provoke it into failing... and it
usually kills both tuners at the same time. Something is very badly wrong with
this thing...

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I think I'm going to move the T500 into my Windows PC and buy a couple of
cheap USB sticks for Freeview. This has gone on long enough.

I am shocked by all your problems.

I am certainly not experiencing this sort of mayhem on my system.

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I am shocked by all your problems.

I'm not.
The blasted thing has a VIA USB controller on board - from experience it seems VIA are one of the few companies that still haven't managed to come up with a USB2 host-controller design that works properly without a filter driver sitting between the USB stack and the chip...

I've got an uptime of 1 hour with the tuners idling (EIT scan on one of the tuners, other idle), but as soon as I start channel-hopping, the stupid thing falls over.

So for what it's worth, here's the spec of my machine:
- Biostar TA690G mainboard; AMD 690G chipset. Onboard VGA disabled.
- AMD Athlon64 X2 4000+ AM2 CPU
- 2GB RAM, dual channel mode
- WD Caviar-GP (WD5000AACS) 500GB Quiet Drive
- LiteOn LH-20A1P DVD writer
- Hauppauge HVR-3000 DVB-S/T hybrid tuner
- Hauppauge Nova-T 500 dual DVB-T

And the OS:
- Mythbuntu 8.04 alpha2 (Ubuntu Hardy) with latest updates
- Kernel 2.6.24-11-generic
- MythTV 0.21.0~fixes16259-0ubuntu1

I know a few folks are using 2.6.22 kernels.. just out of curiosity, has anyone got a Nova-T 500 working on 2.6.24? I'm just about to dig into the kernel changelog to see if anything's been changed relating to USB (especially anything to do with handling of VIA USB chipsets), though I doubt this is a kernel issue.

IIRC there was something related to USB bandwidth handling that went into the kernel not long ago... hmm, I wonder...

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And now the icing on the cake:

[17296.754309] <<< b5 7d
[17296.754311] I2C read failed on address a
[17298.643002] >>> 02 15 81 fd
[17298.643012] ep 0 read error (status = -19)
[17298.643013] <<< b5 7d
[17298.643015] I2C read failed on address a
[17300.535677] >>> 02 15 81 fd
[17300.535687] ep 0 read error (status = -19)
[17300.535688] <<< b5 7d
[17300.535690] I2C read failed on address a
[17302.193280] usbcore: deregistering interface driver dvb_usb_dib0700
[17302.314293] dib0700: loaded with support for 6 different device-types
[17302.420405] BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 
fa23bda0
[17302.420412] printing eip: f89bd162 *pde = 374ac067 *pte = 00000000
[17302.420417] Oops: 0000 [#1] SMP
[17302.420420] Modules linked in: dvb_usb_dib0700 dib7000p dib7000m dvb_usb 

dib0070 isofs udf video output container sbs sbshc ac dock battery mt2060 dib3000mc dibx000_common iptable_filter ip_tables x_tables af_packet lp dvb_pll ipv6 cx22702 wlan_wep isl6421 cx24123 cx88_dvb cx88_vp3054_i2c wlan_scan_sta ath_rate_sample snd_hda_intel tuner tea5767 tda8290 snd_hwdep tda18271 tda827x tuner_xc2028 xc5000 snd_seq_dummy tda9887 cx88_alsa snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss tuner_simple tuner_types snd_seq_oss mt20xx tea5761 ath_pci wlan ath_hal(P) sr_mod cdrom snd_pcm nvidia(P) snd_seq_midi cx8802 cx8800 snd_page_alloc cx88xx snd_rawmidi snd_seq_midi_event ir_common i2c_algo_bit videodev v4l1_compat compat_ioctl32 v4l2_common atiixp videobuf_dvb dvb_core snd_seq snd_timer snd_seq_device tveeprom videobuf_dma_sg videobuf_core btcx_risc snd i2c_piix4 button ati_agp agpgart ide_core i2c_core parport_pc parport soundcore shpchp pci_hotplug k8temp evdev pcspkr pata_atiixp ext3 jbd mbcache sg sd_mod ata_generic floppy uhci_hcd pata_acpi ahci ohci_hcd ehci_hcd libata usbcore scsi_mod ssb r8169 thermal processor fan fuse

[17302.420479]
[17302.420481] Pid: 9917, comm: kdvb-ad-1-fe-0 Tainted: P 
(2.6.24-11-generic #1)
[17302.420484] EIP: 0060:[<f89bd162>] EFLAGS: 00010286 CPU: 0
[17302.420493] EIP is at i2c_transfer+0x22/0x60 [i2c_core]
[17302.420496] EAX: fa23bda0 EBX: ffffffda ECX: 00000003 EDX: dddebf00
[17302.420498] ESI: dddebf00 EDI: f77a255c EBP: 00000003 ESP: dddebed8
[17302.420500]  DS: 007b ES: 007b FS: 00d8 GS: 0000 SS: 0068
[17302.420503] Process kdvb-ad-1-fe-0 (pid: 9917, ti=dddea000 task=d8c59680 
task.ti=dddea000)
[17302.420505] Stack: dddebf00 f7515a28 dddebf00 dddebf54 dddebf68 f9c811bb 
00000000 00000000
[17302.420510]        ddadb700 00000000 0000000a 00000004 dddebf58 00000074 
00000002 dddebf9a
[17302.420515]        0000000a 00000004 dddebf54 00000282 00000282 00000024 
dddebf00 00000001
[17302.420520] Call Trace:
[17302.420529]  [<f9c811bb>] dibx000_i2c_gated_tuner_xfer+0x10b/0x1b0 
[dibx000_common]
[17302.420563]  [<c0136f2e>] del_timer_sync+0xe/0x20
[17302.420576]  [<f89bd17e>] i2c_transfer+0x3e/0x60 [i2c_core]
[17302.420590]  [<fa3800dc>] mt2060_writereg+0x3c/0x60 [mt2060]
[17302.420601]  [<f8a56a4e>] dvb_frontend_thread+0x1ae/0x300 [dvb_core]
[17302.420620]  [<c0141b80>] autoremove_wake_function+0x0/0x40
[17302.420632]  [<f8a568a0>] dvb_frontend_thread+0x0/0x300 [dvb_core]
[17302.420644]  [<c01418c2>] kthread+0x42/0x70
[17302.420647]  [<c0141880>] kthread+0x0/0x70
[17302.420653]  [<c0106677>] kernel_thread_helper+0x7/0x10
[17302.420665]  =======================
[17302.420666] Code: ff 83 c4 04 0f b6 c0 5b c3 83 ec 14 89 5c 24 04 bb da ff 
ff ff 89 7c 24 0c 89 c7 89 6c 24 10 89 cd 89 74 24 08 89 14 24 8b 40 0c <8b> 
00 85 c0 74 1f 8d 77 20 89 f0 e8 1e af 95 c7 8b 5f 0c 89 e9
[17302.420689] EIP: [<f89bd162>] i2c_transfer+0x22/0x60 [i2c_core] SS:ESP 
0068:dddebed8
[17302.420697] ---[ end trace 8ec949325fb5108c ]---

I give up.

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I demand that Philip Pemberton may or may not have written...

Quoted 1 line

And now the icing on the cake:

[snip]

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[17302.420405] BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 
fa23bda0
[17302.420412] printing eip: f89bd162 *pde = 374ac067 *pte = 00000000
[17302.420417] Oops: 0000 [#1] SMP
[17302.420420] Modules linked in: [...] ath_hal(P) [...] nvidia(P) [...]
[17302.420481] Pid: 9917, comm: kdvb-ad-1-fe-0 Tainted: P 

(2.6.24-11-generic #1)

[snip]

You lose. Twice.

Can you cause that oops *without* the taintware? If not, do not pass Go, do not collect £200, go directly to the two relevant vendors and (possibly) get passed back and forth :-)

(You may be able to remove one of the taintware modules by upgrading to 2.6.25-rc3; you can remove the other by using nv or nouveau.)

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I demand that Philip Pemberton may or may not have written...

Quoted 1 line

And now the icing on the cake:

[snip]

Quoted 1 line
[17302.420405] BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at

virtual address

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fa23bda0

[17302.420412] printing eip: f89bd162 *pde = 374ac067 *pte =

00000000

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[17302.420417] Oops: 0000 [#1] SMP
[17302.420420] Modules linked in: [...] ath_hal(P) [...] nvidia(P)

[...]

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[17302.420481] Pid: 9917, comm: kdvb-ad-1-fe-0 Tainted: P 

(2.6.24-11-generic #1)

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You lose. Twice.

Can you cause that oops *without* the taintware? If not, do not pass Go, do
not collect £200, go directly to the two relevant vendors and (possibly) get
passed back and forth :-)

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(You may be able to remove one of the taintware modules by upgrading to
2.6.25-rc3; you can remove the other by using nv or nouveau.)

eeeewwwww....

Let's not go there. That is potential flame bait.

As much as I understand your position, where it's coming from, and the reasoning behind it (and I'm not necessarily against it, trust me on that), blaming it all on the closed parts is maybe just as bad as blaming a USB vendor or open source coders and giving up.

Until a week ago I had an Atheros card needing that hal blob. I am still running the nvidia blob today (can't wait to remove it and use the built-in Intel 965G chip with my ADD2 card once the open drivers get better than the nvidia stuff. And they will, the full specs are out, including for H.264 hardware acceleration).

And my tuners worked, both. No oops.

Let's keep on thing in mind: Philip is running a development version of Ubuntu that may need some stabilisation itself.

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As much as I understand your position, where it's coming from, and the reasoning behind it (and I'm not necessarily against it, trust me on that), blaming it all on the closed parts is maybe just as bad as blaming a USB vendor or open source coders and giving up.

It seems to be able to handle one or two recordings, then on the third it falls flat on its face. I told it to record Jurassic Park, and as soon as the recording was due to start, I got this in dmesg:

Mar  3 21:00:03 dragon kernel: [51071.390905] mt2060 I2C write failed
Mar  3 21:00:03 dragon kernel: [51071.390907] >>> 03 14 04 07 ff ff
Mar  3 21:00:03 dragon kernel: [51071.390910] ep 0 write error (status = -19, 
len: 6)
Mar  3 21:00:03 dragon kernel: [51071.390912] >>> 03 14 04 08 ff ff
Mar  3 21:00:03 dragon kernel: [51071.390915] ep 0 write error (status = -19, 
len: 6)
Mar  3 21:00:03 dragon kernel: [51071.390917] >>> 03 14 04 09 ff f0
Mar  3 21:00:03 dragon kernel: [51071.390920] ep 0 write error (status = -19, 
len: 6)
Mar  3 21:28:02 dragon -- MARK --
Mar  3 21:48:02 dragon -- MARK --
Mar  3 21:52:31 dragon kernel: [54213.772868] modifying (0) streaming state for 0
Mar  3 21:52:31 dragon kernel: [54213.772874] data for streaming: 0 10
Mar  3 21:52:31 dragon kernel: [54213.772876] >>> 0f 00 10 00
Mar  3 21:52:31 dragon kernel: [54213.772881] ep 0 write error (status = -19, 
len: 4)
Mar  3 21:52:31 dragon kernel: [54213.773463] dvb-usb: Hauppauge Nova-T 500 
Dual DVB-T successfully deinitialized and disconnected.
Mar  3 21:52:31 dragon kernel: [54214.011201] usb 2-1: new high speed USB 
device using ehci_hcd and address 3
Mar  3 21:52:31 dragon kernel: [54214.144020] usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen 
from 1 choice
Mar  3 21:52:31 dragon kernel: [54214.144429] FW GET_VERSION length: 16
Mar  3 21:52:31 dragon kernel: [54214.144431] cold: 0
Mar  3 21:52:31 dragon kernel: [54214.144433] dvb-usb: found a 'Hauppauge 
Nova-T 500 Dual DVB-T' in warm state.
Mar  3 21:52:31 dragon kernel: [54214.144457] dvb-usb: will pass the complete 
MPEG2 transport stream to the software demuxer.
Mar  3 21:52:31 dragon kernel: [54214.144638] DVB: registering new adapter 
(Hauppauge Nova-T 500 Dual DVB-T)
Mar  3 21:52:31 dragon kernel: [54214.144806] >>> 0c 08 80
Mar  3 21:52:31 dragon kernel: [54214.158937] >>> 0c 08 c0
Mar  3 21:52:31 dragon kernel: [54214.178924] >>> 0c 0f 80

[.....]

I'm beginning to suspect a power supply or cooling issue; it seems to get worse the longer the machine is running... 15 hours uptime and the T500 is basically dead now, and a reboot only brings it back into the land of the living for a couple of hours at most...

Now where did I put that 500W junker that came with the case...

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Quoted 4 lines

The blasted thing has a VIA USB controller on board - from experience it seems VIA are one of the few companies that still haven't managed to come up with a USB2 host-controller design that works properly without a filter driver sitting between the USB stack and the chip...

Which revision?

I have a VIA-based USB card in one computer here; I've had no problems with it whatsoever. It shows up as:

00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 61) 00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 61) 00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 63)

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Which revision?

Huh. Rev 62 UHCI and Rev 65 EHCI. Maybe it's not the USB HA then.

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I have a VIA-based USB card in one computer here; I've had no problems with it whatsoever. It shows up as:

00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 61) 00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 61) 00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 63)

There's a VIA southbridge in this machine; it actually works quite nicely with most things - exceptions being my Icybox IB380 hard drive enclosure and a Minolta film scanner.

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I am quite disappointed to report that one of my tuners has just died this evening. No error messages to speak of.

Ben

Quoted 59 lines · Philip Pemberton
Quoted 7 lines · Patrik Hansson

Just wanted to say that I´m experiencing the same.
Using latest rev (the one with patches merged) + unknown remote key patch.
Ubuntu 7.10

Also having a lot of "prebuffer timeout 10 times" i the middle of shows.

I think I might have a workaround... On Mythbuntu or one of the many Ubuntu
variants, this seems to work:

1) Run:
lsmod |grep usbcore

2) If step 1 produced any output that started with 'usbcore', then usbcore is
loaded as a module. Perform step 3a. Otherwise, step 3b.

3a) Create a text file called /etc/modprobe.d/local-dvb (the name is fairly
irrelevant). Insert one line of text into it:
options usbcore autosuspend=-1
Now go to step 4.

3b) Your kernel has usbcore built in. That means you have to modify the kernel
command line...
Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst (you'll need to sudo to do this).
Search for
this line:
# defoptions=quiet splash
Amend it to read:
# defoptions=quiet splash usbcore.autosuspend=-1
It's meant to be commented out, so leave the hash at the
beginning of the
line alone... Save and exit, then run ...
sudo update grub
Ubuntu will regenerate grub.conf, using the new kernel command
line. Off
to step 4 you go!

If you're using a non-Debian distro (e.g. Fedora), do the same
thing but
edit the 'kernel' line instead. It might read:
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-8-generic root=LABEL=/ ro quiet
splash
Change it to:
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-8-generic root=LABEL=/ ro quiet
splash
usbcore.autosuspend=-1

4) Reboot your PC.

This is a bit long-winded, but saves a kernel recompile, and a ton of messing
around recompiling kernels when Ubuntu do another release.

Quoted 17 lines

I'm working on what I consider to be a better fix, which involves using the
kernel's Quirks function to disable USB suspend just for the DiBcom controllers. That is, the kernel won't try and suspend them at all...

Thanks,

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#31 lore raw
Quoted 89 lines · Ben Firshman

I am quite disappointed to report that one of my tuners has just died
this evening. No error messages to speak of.

Ben

Quoted 74 lines · Philip Pemberton
Quoted 7 lines · Patrik Hansson

Just wanted to say that I´m experiencing the same.
Using latest rev (the one with patches merged) + unknown remote key patch.
Ubuntu 7.10

Also having a lot of "prebuffer timeout 10 times" i the middle of shows.

I think I might have a workaround... On Mythbuntu or one of the many Ubuntu
variants, this seems to work:

1) Run:
lsmod |grep usbcore

2) If step 1 produced any output that started with 'usbcore', then usbcore is
loaded as a module. Perform step 3a. Otherwise, step 3b.

3a) Create a text file called /etc/modprobe.d/local-dvb (the name is fairly
irrelevant). Insert one line of text into it:
options usbcore autosuspend=-1
Now go to step 4.

3b) Your kernel has usbcore built in. That means you have to modify the kernel
command line...
Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst (you'll need to sudo to do this).
Search for
this line:
# defoptions=quiet splash
Amend it to read:
# defoptions=quiet splash usbcore.autosuspend=-1
It's meant to be commented out, so leave the hash at the
beginning of the
line alone... Save and exit, then run ...
sudo update grub
Ubuntu will regenerate grub.conf, using the new kernel command
line. Off
to step 4 you go!

If you're using a non-Debian distro (e.g. Fedora), do the same
thing but
edit the 'kernel' line instead. It might read:
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-8-generic root=LABEL=/ ro quiet
splash
Change it to:
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-8-generic root=LABEL=/ ro quiet
splash
usbcore.autosuspend=-1

4) Reboot your PC.

This is a bit long-winded, but saves a kernel recompile, and a ton of messing
around recompiling kernels when Ubuntu do another release.

I'm working on what I consider to be a better fix, which involves using the
kernel's Quirks function to disable USB suspend just for the DiBcom controllers. That is, the kernel won't try and suspend them at all...

Thanks,
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I just want check something i just discovered.
Under /sys/module/dvb_core/parameters/ i have something called dvb_powerdown_on_sleep
This i set to "1" for me.
I also have one called dvb_shutdown_timeout and that is set to 0

Exactly what is it that options usbcore autosuspend=-1 controls ?

I would have expected that at least one of those should be -1

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Quoted 103 lines · Patrik Hansson
Quoted 89 lines · Ben Firshman

I am quite disappointed to report that one of my tuners has just died
this evening. No error messages to speak of.

Ben

Quoted 74 lines · Philip Pemberton
Quoted 7 lines · Patrik Hansson

Just wanted to say that I´m experiencing the same.
Using latest rev (the one with patches merged) + unknown remote key patch.
Ubuntu 7.10

Also having a lot of "prebuffer timeout 10 times" i the middle of shows.

I think I might have a workaround... On Mythbuntu or one of the many Ubuntu
variants, this seems to work:

1) Run:
lsmod |grep usbcore

2) If step 1 produced any output that started with 'usbcore', then usbcore is
loaded as a module. Perform step 3a. Otherwise, step 3b.

3a) Create a text file called /etc/modprobe.d/local-dvb (the name is fairly
irrelevant). Insert one line of text into it:
options usbcore autosuspend=-1
Now go to step 4.

3b) Your kernel has usbcore built in. That means you have to modify the kernel
command line...
Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst (you'll need to sudo to do this).
Search for
this line:
# defoptions=quiet splash
Amend it to read:
# defoptions=quiet splash usbcore.autosuspend=-1
It's meant to be commented out, so leave the hash at the
beginning of the
line alone... Save and exit, then run ...
sudo update grub
Ubuntu will regenerate grub.conf, using the new kernel command
line. Off
to step 4 you go!

If you're using a non-Debian distro (e.g. Fedora), do the same
thing but
edit the 'kernel' line instead. It might read:
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-8-generic root=LABEL=/ ro quiet
splash
Change it to:
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-8-generic root=LABEL=/ ro quiet
splash
usbcore.autosuspend=-1

4) Reboot your PC.

This is a bit long-winded, but saves a kernel recompile, and a ton of messing
around recompiling kernels when Ubuntu do another release.

I'm working on what I consider to be a better fix, which involves using the
kernel's Quirks function to disable USB suspend just for the DiBcom controllers. That is, the kernel won't try and suspend them at all...

Thanks,
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I just want check something i just discovered.
Under /sys/module/dvb_core/parameters/ i have something called dvb_powerdown_on_sleep
This i set to "1" for me.
I also have one called dvb_shutdown_timeout and that is set to 0

Quoted 4 lines

Exactly what is it that options usbcore autosuspend=-1 controls ?

I would have expected that at least one of those should be -1

.....and now i see were i made my mistake (usbcore vs dvb_core) and made a fool out of myself.
please disregard my last email.

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Quoted 105 lines · Patrik Hansson
Quoted 103 lines · Patrik Hansson
Quoted 89 lines · Ben Firshman

I am quite disappointed to report that one of my tuners has just died
this evening. No error messages to speak of.

Ben

Quoted 74 lines · Philip Pemberton
Quoted 7 lines · Patrik Hansson

Just wanted to say that I´m experiencing the same.
Using latest rev (the one with patches merged) + unknown remote key patch.
Ubuntu 7.10

Also having a lot of "prebuffer timeout 10 times" i the middle of shows.

I think I might have a workaround... On Mythbuntu or one of the many Ubuntu
variants, this seems to work:

1) Run:
lsmod |grep usbcore

2) If step 1 produced any output that started with 'usbcore', then usbcore is
loaded as a module. Perform step 3a. Otherwise, step 3b.

3a) Create a text file called /etc/modprobe.d/local-dvb (the name is fairly
irrelevant). Insert one line of text into it:
options usbcore autosuspend=-1
Now go to step 4.

3b) Your kernel has usbcore built in. That means you have to modify the kernel
command line...
Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst (you'll need to sudo to do this).
Search for
this line:
# defoptions=quiet splash
Amend it to read:
# defoptions=quiet splash usbcore.autosuspend=-1
It's meant to be commented out, so leave the hash at the
beginning of the
line alone... Save and exit, then run ...
sudo update grub
Ubuntu will regenerate grub.conf, using the new kernel command
line. Off
to step 4 you go!

If you're using a non-Debian distro (e.g. Fedora), do the same
thing but
edit the 'kernel' line instead. It might read:
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-8-generic root=LABEL=/ ro quiet
splash
Change it to:
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-8-generic root=LABEL=/ ro quiet
splash
usbcore.autosuspend=-1

4) Reboot your PC.

This is a bit long-winded, but saves a kernel recompile, and a ton of messing
around recompiling kernels when Ubuntu do another release.

I'm working on what I consider to be a better fix, which involves using the
kernel's Quirks function to disable USB suspend just for the DiBcom controllers. That is, the kernel won't try and suspend them at all...

Thanks,
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I just want check something i just discovered.
Under /sys/module/dvb_core/parameters/ i have something called dvb_powerdown_on_sleep
This i set to "1" for me.
I also have one called dvb_shutdown_timeout and that is set to 0

Quoted 9 lines
Quoted 4 lines

Exactly what is it that options usbcore autosuspend=-1 controls ?

I would have expected that at least one of those should be -1

.....and now i see were i made my mistake (usbcore vs dvb_core) and made a fool out of myself.
please disregard my last email.

Just wanted to report that since stopped the active EIT scanning in mythtv-setup my NOVA-T 500 PCI have been stable for 4 days now with 2.6.22-14 without any special module options or anything like that. Before i never had both tuners working for more that 24 hours so that seems to be the workaround for the moment.
The card still collects EIT data when watching tv so EPG still works.

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Quoted 8 lines · Patrik Hansson

Just wanted to report that since stopped the active EIT scanning in mythtv-setup my NOVA-T 500 PCI have been stable for 4 days now with 2.6.22-14 without any special module options or anything like that. Before i never had both tuners working for more that 24 hours so that seems to be the workaround for the moment.
The card still collects EIT data when watching tv so EPG still works.

I second that. I disabled Active EIT (mythtv-setup) and also added:
options usbcore autosuspend=-1
options dvb_usb disable_rc_polling=1
to the module options. My system has been rock solid since (~2 weeks) and I used to have at least a couple of problems per week before.
/D

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#35 lore raw

2008/4/8 daniel åkerud <[email protected]>:

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Quoted 11 lines · Patrik Hansson

Just wanted to report that since stopped the active EIT scanning in mythtv-setup my NOVA-T 500 PCI have been stable for 4 days now with 2.6.22-14 without any special module options or anything like that. Before i never had both tuners working for more that 24 hours so that seems to be the workaround for the moment.
The card still collects EIT data when watching tv so EPG still works.

I second that. I disabled Active EIT (mythtv-setup) and also added:
options usbcore autosuspend=-1

options dvb_usb disable_rc_polling=1
to the module options. My system has been rock solid since (~2 weeks) and I
used to have at least a couple of problems per week before.
/D

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Did you also try without adding the module options ? Just to confirm if they were needed.

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2008/4/8 daniel åkerud <[email protected]>:

Quoted 18 lines
Quoted 11 lines · Patrik Hansson

Just wanted to report that since stopped the active EIT scanning in mythtv-setup my NOVA-T 500 PCI have been stable for 4 days now with 2.6.22-14 without any special module options or anything like that. Before i never had both tuners working for more that 24 hours so that seems to be the workaround for the moment.
The card still collects EIT data when watching tv so EPG still works.

I second that. I disabled Active EIT (mythtv-setup) and also added:
options usbcore autosuspend=-1

Quoted 9 lines
Quoted 2 lines

options dvb_usb disable_rc_polling=1
to the module options. My system has been rock solid since (~2 weeks)

and I

Quoted 3 lines

used to have at least a couple of problems per week before. /D

Did you also try without adding the module options ? Just to confirm if they were needed.

Unfortunately not! I just had enough and did everything I could in one go :-D

/D

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Quoted 8 lines

Just wanted to report that since stopped the active EIT scanning in mythtv-setup my NOVA-T 500 PCI have been stable for 4 days now with 2.6.22-14 without any special module options or anything like that. Before i never had both tuners working for more that 24 hours so that seems to be the workaround for the moment.
The card still collects EIT data when watching tv so EPG still works.

Hi. I was suffering the "loser one tuner" problem, and I just want to add that I use MythTV with active EIT scanning and my system has been stable for 4 days without a problem.

MythTV has a parameter to delay the tuning of channels in the same configuration screen where you select active/passive EIT scanning. More precisely, it's at the right of the Active EIT scanning checkbox. I have adapter0 with passive EIT scanning, and 0 delay, and adapter1 with Active EIT scanning and 150ms of tuning delay. That solved the tuner-losing stuff and also I have my EIT fully populated.

Hope this can help you. Luis.

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Quoted 12 lines · Christophe Boyanique

I would just confirm the symptom that Jonas Anden reported on the mailing list a few days ago about the Nova-T 500 loosing one tuner.

Nothing in the logs or dmesg;
MythTV stuck on L__

Host:
Linux 2.6.22-14-generic
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz

v4l from 2008/01/27-16:34

Just for information: I decided to make this test more than 10 days ago:

- disable EIT on both tuners in MythTV;
- disable remote (that I do not use anyway)

for that I added in a /etc/modprobe.d/local file:
--- cut ---
options dvb-usb-dib0700 force_lna_activation=1
options dvb_usb disable_rc_polling=1
--- cut ---

The result is that both tuners are still up and working.

So it may be either the remote or the EIT which produces the bug I suppose.

Christophe.

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#40 lore raw

Which one disables the remote? I don't use the remote, so I could try disabling it and see if I get any problems.

Ben

Quoted 30 lines · Christophe Boyanique
Quoted 12 lines · Christophe Boyanique

I would just confirm the symptom that Jonas Anden reported on the mailing list a few days ago about the Nova-T 500 loosing one tuner.

Nothing in the logs or dmesg;
MythTV stuck on L__

Host:
Linux 2.6.22-14-generic
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz

v4l from 2008/01/27-16:34

Just for information: I decided to make this test more than 10 days ago:

- disable EIT on both tuners in MythTV;
- disable remote (that I do not use anyway)

for that I added in a /etc/modprobe.d/local file:
--- cut ---
options dvb-usb-dib0700 force_lna_activation=1
options dvb_usb disable_rc_polling=1
--- cut ---

The result is that both tuners are still up and working.

So it may be either the remote or the EIT which produces the bug I suppose.

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options dvb-usb-dib0700 force_lna_activation=1
options dvb_usb disable_rc_polling=1

Did that last night and I'm still seeing MT2060 I2C timeouts... *sigh*

This is on Mythbuntu 8.04 alpha-2, latest updates, running drivers from Hg TIP patched for the HVR-3000 (using the dev.kewl.org multi-frontend patch).

Thanks,

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