Questions on v4l-dvb driver instructions

Your instructions at http://linuxtv.org/repo/ for obtaining v4l-dvb say to execute:

hg clone http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb

But this returns

abort: error: Name or service not known

Perhaps there is a mistake in the instructions.

It seems this checkout step is not really required, as you can download the tarball from a link on the page at the URL.

I also find it confusing that you mention dvb-apps, but don't talk about compiling it. Is it needed? Optional? An alternative?

Are there additional steps not presented here? I was unable to get my Hauppage HVR-950 to work on Ubuntu 8.04. Does this package support that device?

2008/9/17 Jonathan Coles <[email protected]>:

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Your instructions at http://linuxtv.org/repo/ for obtaining v4l-dvb say to execute:

hg clone http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb

But this returns

abort: error: Name or service not known

Perhaps there is a mistake in the instructions.

copy and pasting that line here works fine:

% hg clone http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb
destination directory: v4l-dvb
requesting all changes
adding changesets
...etc

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It seems this checkout step is not really required, as you can download the tarball from a link on the page at the URL.

One advantage of using mercurial over the tarball is the ability to run hg pull and hg update rather than re download the entire set.

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I also find it confusing that you mention dvb-apps, but don't talk about compiling it. Is it needed? Optional? An alternative?

dvb-apps AFAIK are optional. I have not yet needed them in normal operation of a tuner card.

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Are there additional steps not presented here? I was unable to get my Hauppage HVR-950 to work on Ubuntu 8.04. Does this package support that device?

Do you have the firmware for the device as well as the driver?

On the mythtv-users list there was a success story using one of these tuners. It details how they got it working before going into issues using two of them:
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/349205?search_string=HVR-950;#349205
He was using the mcentral repository, and Edgy but the steps are otherwise the same.

Hope this helps,
cheers,
Owen.

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Perhaps I have some other misconfiguration in my system. With the wget command I must use the --no-proxy option. Otherwise, I get "Error parsing proxy URL http://:8080/: Invalid host name." Very strange that port 8080 is assumed when the standard port is 80.

I couldn't find an equivalent no-proxy option for hg.

Thanks.

Quoted 49 lines · Owen Townend

2008/9/17 Jonathan Coles <[email protected]>:

Quoted 11 lines

Your instructions at http://linuxtv.org/repo/ for obtaining v4l-dvb say to execute:

hg clone http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb

But this returns

abort: error: Name or service not known

Perhaps there is a mistake in the instructions.

copy and pasting that line here works fine:

% hg clone http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb
destination directory: v4l-dvb
requesting all changes
adding changesets
...etc

Quoted 3 lines

It seems this checkout step is not really required, as you can download the tarball from a link on the page at the URL.

One advantage of using mercurial over the tarball is the ability to run hg pull and hg update rather than re download the entire set.

Quoted 3 lines

I also find it confusing that you mention dvb-apps, but don't talk about compiling it. Is it needed? Optional? An alternative?

dvb-apps AFAIK are optional. I have not yet needed them in normal operation of a tuner card.

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Are there additional steps not presented here? I was unable to get my Hauppage HVR-950 to work on Ubuntu 8.04. Does this package support that device?

Do you have the firmware for the device as well as the driver?

On the mythtv-users list there was a success story using one of these tuners. It details how they got it working before going into issues using two of them:
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/349205?search_string=HVR-950;#349205
He was using the mcentral repository, and Edgy but the steps are otherwise the same.

Quoted 3 lines

Hope this helps,
cheers,
Owen.

Quoted 8 lines · Jonathan Coles

Perhaps I have some other misconfiguration in my system. With the wget command I must use the --no-proxy option. Otherwise, I get "Error parsing proxy URL http://:8080/: Invalid host name." Very strange that port 8080 is assumed when the standard port is 80.

I couldn't find an equivalent no-proxy option for hg.

Thanks.

Please don't top-post, it's aainst to policy of the mailing list.

See below.

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Quoted 51 lines · Owen Townend

2008/9/17 Jonathan Coles <[email protected]>:

Quoted 4 lines

Your instructions at http://linuxtv.org/repo/ for obtaining v4l-dvb say
to execute:

Quoted 8 lines

hg clone http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb

But this returns

abort: error: Name or service not known

Perhaps there is a mistake in the instructions.

copy and pasting that line here works fine:

% hg clone http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb
destination directory: v4l-dvb
requesting all changes
adding changesets
...etc

Quoted 4 lines

It seems this checkout step is not really required, as you can download
the tarball from a link on the page at the URL.

One advantage of using mercurial over the tarball is the ability to run hg pull and hg update rather than re download the entire set.

Quoted 4 lines

I also find it confusing that you mention dvb-apps, but don't talk about
compiling it. Is it needed? Optional? An alternative?

dvb-apps AFAIK are optional. I have not yet needed them in normal operation of a tuner card.

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Are there additional steps not presented here? I was unable to get my Hauppage HVR-950 to work on Ubuntu 8.04. Does this package support that
device?

Do you have the firmware for the device as well as the driver?

On the mythtv-users list there was a success story using one of these tuners. It details how they got it working before going into issues using two of them:
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/349205?search_string=HVR-950;#349205

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He was using the mcentral repository, and Edgy but the steps are otherwise the same.

Hope this helps,
cheers,
Owen.

Read this, it will probably help :)

http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/hgrc.5.html

- Steve

I already have the man page for hg and hgrc. But, admittedly, I had only looked the one for hg.

Assuming the problem was proxy related, as with wget, I added a [http_proxy] section, with "no=linuxtv.org". That worked! Unfortunately, "no=*" does not work, so every Mercurial host I ever want to access will have to be added to the file.

I don't understand why I would use a proxy for downloads. If this is on one's own machine, what security is gained?

Overall, the Mercurial issues are just an unnecessary complication, and my real problem with v4l-dvb for the HVR-950 is probably something to do with loading firmware or kernel modules. Linux has come a long way in the five years or so that I have been using it. But, some things, like using an off-the-shelf USB device, can still prove impossibly complex for those of us who are not hard-core computer geeks.

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Quoted 8 lines · Jonathan Coles

Perhaps I have some other misconfiguration in my system. With the wget command I must use the --no-proxy option. Otherwise, I get "Error parsing proxy URL http://:8080/: Invalid host name." Very strange that port 8080 is assumed when the standard port is 80.

I couldn't find an equivalent no-proxy option for hg.

Thanks.

Please don't top-post, it's aainst to policy of the mailing list.

See below.

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Quoted 57 lines · Owen Townend

2008/9/17 Jonathan Coles <[email protected]>:

Quoted 4 lines

Your instructions at http://linuxtv.org/repo/ for obtaining v4l-dvb say
to execute:

Quoted 8 lines

hg clone http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb

But this returns

abort: error: Name or service not known

Perhaps there is a mistake in the instructions.

copy and pasting that line here works fine:

% hg clone http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb
destination directory: v4l-dvb
requesting all changes
adding changesets
...etc

Quoted 4 lines

It seems this checkout step is not really required, as you can download
the tarball from a link on the page at the URL.

One advantage of using mercurial over the tarball is the ability to run hg pull and hg update rather than re download the entire set.

Quoted 4 lines

I also find it confusing that you mention dvb-apps, but don't talk about
compiling it. Is it needed? Optional? An alternative?

dvb-apps AFAIK are optional. I have not yet needed them in normal operation of a tuner card.

Quoted 5 lines

Are there additional steps not presented here? I was unable to get my Hauppage HVR-950 to work on Ubuntu 8.04. Does this package support that
device?

Do you have the firmware for the device as well as the driver?

On the mythtv-users list there was a success story using one of these tuners. It details how they got it working before going into issues using two of them:
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/349205?search_string=HVR-950;#349205

He was using the mcentral repository, and Edgy but the steps are otherwise the same.

Hope this helps,
cheers,
Owen.

Quoted 5 lines

Read this, it will probably help :)

http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/hgrc.5.html

- Steve

I already have the man page for hg and hgrc. But, admittedly, I had only looked the one for hg.

Assuming the problem was proxy related, as with wget, I added a [http_proxy] section, with "no=linuxtv.org". That worked! Unfortunately, "no=*" does not work, so every Mercurial host I ever want to access will have to be added to the file.

I don't understand why I would use a proxy for downloads. If this is on one's own machine, what security is gained?

Overall, the Mercurial issues are just an unnecessary complication, and my real problem with v4l-dvb for the HVR-950 is probably something to do with loading firmware or kernel modules. Linux has come a long way in the five years or so that I have been using it. But, some things, like using an off-the-shelf USB device, can still prove impossibly complex for those of us who are not hard-core computer geeks.

Thanks for your help.