crda: Updated regulatory information for France (FR)
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PATCH 4/5 crda: Updated regulatory information for France (FR)
This patch is for review. It might be tricky to use the INDOOR/OUTDOOR with those definitions, but it will be another issue.
--- db.txt | 15 ++++++++++----- 1 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
db.txt +10 -5
@@ -199,12 +199,17 @@ country FI: (5170 - 5250 @ 40), (N/A, 20) (5250 - 5330 @ 40), (N/A, 20), DFS (5490 - 5710 @ 40), (N/A, 27), DFS - +# Data from http://www.arcep.fr/index.php?id=9272#12931 +# Updated 2008-10-04 +# 1W => 30dBm, 200mW => 23dBm, 100mW => 20dBm, 10mW => 10dBm +# TPC is needed for 5250-5350 and 5470-5725, which flag to use? country FR: - (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (N/A, 20) - (5170 - 5250 @ 40), (N/A, 20) - (5250 - 5330 @ 40), (N/A, 20), DFS - (5490 - 5710 @ 40), (N/A, 27), DFS + (2400 - 2454 @ 40), (N/A, 20) + (2454 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 20), NO-OUTDOOR + (2454 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 10), NO-INDOOR + (5150 - 5250 @ 40), (N/A, 23), NO-OUTDOOR + (5250 - 5350 @ 40), (N/A, 23), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS, PASSIVE-SCAN + (5470 - 5725 @ 40), (N/A, 30), DFS, PASSIVE-SCAN country GE: (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (N/A, 20)
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db.txt country FI: · line 204
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db.txt +3
-0+# Data from http://www.arcep.fr/index.php?id=9272#12931 +# Updated 2008-10-04 +# 1W => 30dBm, 200mW => 23dBm, 100mW => 20dBm, 10mW => 10dBm
You can say "200mW" in the definitions and the tool will automatically convert it.
db.txt country FI: · line 207
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db.txt +2
-4+# TPC is needed for 5250-5350 and 5470-5725, which flag to use? country FR: - (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (N/A, 20) - (5170 - 5250 @ 40), (N/A, 20) - (5250 - 5330 @ 40), (N/A, 20), DFS - (5490 - 5710 @ 40), (N/A, 27), DFS + (2400 - 2454 @ 40), (N/A, 20)
i.e.
(2400 - 2454 @ 40), (N/A, 100mW)
I think I did this for the DE one.
johannes
CC'ing Jean as he's another French wireless developer.
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This patch is for review. It might be tricky to use the INDOOR/OUTDOOR with those definitions, but it will be another issue.
INDOOR/OUTDOOR flag is welcomed when it can be determined. In order to make use of it we will need to add wireless state in cfg80211, and let the user be able to update this, say through iw or wpa_supplicant. But that's for later just as with DFS.
But using it in the db is great, thanks.
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Signed-off-by Benoit PAPILLAULT <[email protected]>--- db.txt | 15 ++++++++++----- 1 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)db.txt +1
-1@@ -199,12 +199,17 @@ country FI: (5170 - 5250 @ 40), (N/A, 20) (5250 - 5330 @ 40), (N/A, 20), DFS (5490 - 5710 @ 40), (N/A, 27), DFS - +# Data from http://www.arcep.fr/index.php?id=9272#12931
db.txt country FI: · line 208
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db.txt +5
-4+# Updated 2008-10-04 +# 1W => 30dBm, 200mW => 23dBm, 100mW => 20dBm, 10mW => 10dBm +# TPC is needed for 5250-5350 and 5470-5725, which flag to use? country FR: - (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (N/A, 20) - (5170 - 5250 @ 40), (N/A, 20) - (5250 - 5330 @ 40), (N/A, 20), DFS - (5490 - 5710 @ 40), (N/A, 27), DFS + (2400 - 2454 @ 40), (N/A, 20) + (2454 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 20), NO-OUTDOOR
2483.5 - 2454 = 29.5 so 29.5 should be the max bandwidth.
db.txt country FI: · line 209
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db.txt +1
-0+ (2454 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 10), NO-INDOOR
Same here.
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-0+ (5150 - 5250 @ 40), (N/A, 23), NO-OUTDOOR + (5250 - 5350 @ 40), (N/A, 23), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS, PASSIVE-SCAN + (5470 - 5725 @ 40), (N/A, 30), DFS, PASSIVE-SCAN
Hm, actually so I had removed PASSIVE-SCAN from all entries as I had determined that this was only used for DFS purposes. As you can see in your case both have DFS so I'd leave only DFS. So essentially we can get rid of these:
RRF_PASSIVE_SCAN = 1<<7, /* passive scan is required */
RRF_NO_IBSS = 1<<8, /* IBSS is not allowed */
What I noted was that PASSIVE-SCAN for example was only used for when we don't have DFS in STA and NO_IBSS when we don't have DFS in IBSS.
So we can just stick to DFS flag, unless you are aware of other considerations for them. Thoughts?
Luis
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CC'ing Jean as he's another French wireless developer.
I have not been living in France for a while, like more than
10 years ;-)
I think Benoit is on top of things, and as I'm not familiar
with it, I'll defer to him.
Jean
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CC'ing Jean as he's another French wireless developer.
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I have not been living in France for a while, like more than
10 years ;-)
I think Benoit is on top of things, and as I'm not familiar
with it, I'll defer to him.
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Jean
Indeed, I read lots of paper, website, source code and I know a lot for sure. But at the end, that's my own interpretation and I might still be wrong, so having peer review is still needed.
Regards,
Benoit
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CC'ing Jean as he's another French wireless developer. =20
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This patch is for review. It might be tricky to use the INDOOR/OUTDO=
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with those definitions, but it will be another issue.
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INDOOR/OUTDOOR flag is welcomed when it can be determined. In order to make use of it we will need to add wireless state in cfg80211, and let the user be able to update this, say through iw or wpa_supplicant=
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But that's for later just as with DFS.
=46ine with me here.
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But using it in the db is great, thanks.
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Signed-off-by Benoit PAPILLAULT <[email protected]>--- db.txt | 15 ++++++++++----- 1 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
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db.txt country FI: · line 204
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db.txt +3
-1@@ -199,12 +199,17 @@ country FI: (5170 - 5250 @ 40), (N/A, 20) (5250 - 5330 @ 40), (N/A, 20), DFS (5490 - 5710 @ 40), (N/A, 27), DFS - +# Data from http://www.arcep.fr/index.php?id=3D9272#12931 +# Updated 2008-10-04 +# 1W =3D> 30dBm, 200mW =3D> 23dBm, 100mW =3D> 20dBm, 10mW =3D> 10dB=
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db.txt country FI: · line 208
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-4+# TPC is needed for 5250-5350 and 5470-5725, which flag to use? country FR: - (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (N/A, 20) - (5170 - 5250 @ 40), (N/A, 20) - (5250 - 5330 @ 40), (N/A, 20), DFS - (5490 - 5710 @ 40), (N/A, 27), DFS + (2400 - 2454 @ 40), (N/A, 20) + (2454 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 20), NO-OUTDOOR=20
2483.5 - 2454 =3D 29.5 so 29.5 should be the max bandwidth.
Not exactly. The maximum power in this band depends on whether we are indoor or outdoor. If we are indoor, we are allowed to have 20dBm in th= e
whole 2400 - 2454 MHz band and can still use 40MHz bandwidth. Maybe I should describe that different?
(2412 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 20), NO-OUTDOOR
(2412 - 2454 @ 40), (N/A, 20), NO-INDOOR
(2454 - 2483.5 @ 40) (N/A, 10), NO-INDOORIn fact, this depends on the indoor/outdoor flags issue which can be resolved later.
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-0+ (2454 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 10), NO-INDOOR=20
Same here.
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-0+ (5150 - 5250 @ 40), (N/A, 23), NO-OUTDOOR + (5250 - 5350 @ 40), (N/A, 23), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS, PASSIVE-SCAN + (5470 - 5725 @ 40), (N/A, 30), DFS, PASSIVE-SCAN
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Hm, actually so I had removed PASSIVE-SCAN from all entries as I had determined that this was only used for DFS purposes. As you can see in your case both have DFS so I'd leave only DFS. So essentially we can get rid of these:
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RRF_PASSIVE_SCAN=3D 1<<7, /* passive scan is required=
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RRF_NO_IBSS=3D 1<<8, /* IBSS is not allowed */
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What I noted was that PASSIVE-SCAN for example was only used for when we don't have DFS in STA andNO_IBSSwhen we don't have DFS in IBSS. =20
So we can just stick to DFS flag, unless you are aware of other considerations for them. Thoughts?
If it's documented that the DFS flag implies PASSIVE_SCAN, that's fine with me.
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Luis
Regards,
Benoit
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db.txt +4
-0+# Data from http://www.arcep.fr/index.php?id=9272#12931 +# Updated 2008-10-04 +# 1W => 30dBm, 200mW => 23dBm, 100mW => 20dBm, 10mW => 10dBm +# TPC is needed for 5250-5350 and 5470-5725, which flag to use? country FR:Quoted 8 lines
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-4- (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (N/A, 20) - (5170 - 5250 @ 40), (N/A, 20) - (5250 - 5330 @ 40), (N/A, 20), DFS - (5490 - 5710 @ 40), (N/A, 27), DFS + (2400 - 2454 @ 40), (N/A, 20) + (2454 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 20), NO-OUTDOOR2483.5 - 2454 = 29.5 so 29.5 should be the max bandwidth.
Not exactly. The maximum power in this band depends on whether we are indoor or outdoor. If we are indoor, we are allowed to have 20dBm in the whole 2400 - 2454 MHz band and can still use 40MHz bandwidth. Maybe I should describe that different?
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(2412 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 20), NO-OUTDOOR (2412 - 2454 @ 40), (N/A, 20), NO-INDOOR (2454 - 2483.5 @ 40) (N/A, 10), NO-INDOORIn fact, this depends on the indoor/outdoor flags issue which can be resolved later.
But I wasn't speaking about power, I was speaking about channel bandwidth. You cannot fit a 40 MHz channel into the freq range 2483.5 - 2454.
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+ (2454 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 10), NO-INDOOR
Same here.
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-0+ (5150 - 5250 @ 40), (N/A, 23), NO-OUTDOOR + (5250 - 5350 @ 40), (N/A, 23), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS, PASSIVE-SCAN + (5470 - 5725 @ 40), (N/A, 30), DFS, PASSIVE-SCANHm, actually so I had removed PASSIVE-SCAN from all entries as I had determined that this was only used for DFS purposes. As you can see in your case both have DFS so I'd leave only DFS. So essentially we can get rid of these:
RRF_PASSIVE_SCAN= 1<<7, /* passive scan is required */
RRF_NO_IBSS= 1<<8, /* IBSS is not allowed */
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What I noted was that PASSIVE-SCAN for example was only used for when we don't have DFS in STA and
NO_IBSSwhen we don't have DFS in IBSS.So we can just stick to DFS flag, unless you are aware of other considerations for them. Thoughts?
If it's documented that the DFS flag implies
PASSIVE_SCAN, that's fine with me.
We'll have to add the docs, this is just what what I determined from my own review on regulatory, with regulatory folks. I asked a "why" for each flag.
Luis
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2483.5 - 2454 =3D 29.5 so 29.5 should be the max bandwidth.
Not exactly. The maximum power in this band depends on whether we ar=
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indoor or outdoor. If we are indoor, we are allowed to have 20dBm in=
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whole 2400 - 2454 MHz band and can still use 40MHz bandwidth. Maybe =
I
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should describe that different?
(2412 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 20), NO-OUTDOOR (2412 - 2454 @ 40), (N/A, 20), NO-INDOOR (2454 - 2483.5 @ 40) (N/A, 10), NO-INDOOR
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In fact, this depends on the indoor/outdoor flags issue which can be resolved later.
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But I wasn't speaking about power, I was speaking about channel bandwidth. You cannot fit a 40 MHz channel into the freq range 2483.5 - 2454.
The whole band is still 2412-2483.5MHz in both cases (indoor/outdoor), this is just that different TX power rules apply for frequencies below 2454 MHz and above when used outdoor.
To me, it's valid to have a 40MHz channel centered at 2462 MHz covering the range [2442, 2482] MHz. When used outdoor, it will be limited to 10 dBm on the whole range.
Regards,
Benoit
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2483.5 - 2454 =3D 29.5 so 29.5 should be the max bandwidth.
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indoor or outdoor. If we are indoor, we are allowed to have 20dBm =
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whole 2400 - 2454 MHz band and can still use 40MHz bandwidth. Mayb=
e I
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should describe that different?
(2412 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 20), NO-OUTDOOR (2412 - 2454 @ 40), (N/A, 20), NO-INDOOR (2454 - 2483.5 @ 40) (N/A, 10), NO-INDOORIn fact, this depends on the indoor/outdoor flags issue which can =
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resolved later.
But I wasn't speaking about power, I was speaking about channel bandwidth. You cannot fit a 40 MHz channel into the freq range 2483.5 - 2454.
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The whole band is still 2412-2483.5MHz in both cases (indoor/outdoor)=
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this is just that different TX power rules apply for frequencies belo=
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2454 MHz and above when used outdoor.
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the range [2442, 2482] MHz. When used outdoor, it will be limited to =
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dBm on the whole range.
This is an interesting case... so right now we apply a reg rule to a channel upon register or when a regulatory domain changes. We do this in handle_channel(). This calls freq_reg_info() and one parameter we can pass there is the max_bandwidth we know we want or 0 if we have no requirement. We use 0 on max_bandwidth right now as we haven't added code for checking max bandwidth yet in mac80211, I think we can add desired tx power here as well and it'll then be able to pick up the correct rule. However this does require adding code to reg.c. and maybe mac80211. We'll have to keep this in mind and add it, but the reg rule for 2454 - 2483.5 should still not have 40 MHz for max bandwidth as only 29.5 MHz fits in it.
Luis
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