still same problem
Hi guys.
After quite some time has passed since my last message, i have pulled wireless drivers from web site several times, still same problem, refresh of drivers didn't seem to affect the problem at all. I am lost, since you don't seem to take it seriously, but it hangs machine! Can someone give me an advice what I can do in order to help you to troubleshoot the issue?
I am not a programmer, but looks like a memory leak somewhere. If you give clear understandable instructions - I am glad to follow them! Regards
Hi Dimitri,
I"m getting a similar problem to you, in that my computer is hanging shortly after loading ath9k and trying to set up a wireless connection. I've logged a bug report here:
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12110
but unfortunately, there hasn't been any progress or feedback on my comments since the 6th December. I'm willing to test, but I need some guidance on exactly how to get some useful debugging information.
Barry.
Quoted 15 lines · Dmitri Seletski
Hi guys.
After quite some time has passed since my last message, i have pulled wireless drivers from web site several times, still same problem, refresh of drivers didn't seem to affect the problem at all. I am lost, since you don't seem to take it seriously, but it hangs machine! Can someone give me an advice what I can do in order to help you to troubleshoot the issue?
I am not a programmer, but looks like a memory leak somewhere. If you give clear understandable instructions - I am glad to follow them! Regards
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Quoted 7 lines · Barry Green
Hi Dimitri,
I"m getting a similar problem to you, in that my computer is hanging shortly after loading ath9k and trying to set up a wireless connection. I've logged a bug report here:
This is for 2.6.27, the issue being reported here is for wireless-testing. Regardless we don't have any oops messages for either issues.
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but unfortunately, there hasn't been any progress or feedback on my comments since the 6th December. I'm willing to test, but I need some guidance on exactly how to get some useful debugging information.
We need an oops trace of your crashes so far it seems you have not been able to get one, lets work on that. Until then it is not easy for us to provide you with patches to fix your issues.
Please test with the latest drivers from wireless-testing/compat-wireless and restart in single user mode, we want to ensure X is not running at all and you are in a virtual terminal. We also do not want Network Manager or wpa_supplicant running in the background. To increase the resolution upon bootup try booting with vga=ask (vga=791 works well for me), then try to associate to your access point without encryption manually using iwconfig.
If there is an oops it should hopefully come up.
Luis
Hi,
Quoted 5 lines · Luis R. Rodriguez
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Barry Green <[email protected]> wrote:
[...]
We need an oops trace of your crashes so far it seems you have not been able to get one, lets work on that. Until then it is not easy for us to provide you with patches to fix your issues.
I also have similar problems with an D-LINK DWA-547 and I'd really like to provide the oops trace, but unfortunately the machine seems to hang that fast, that even no oops trace is shown. Also magic-sysreq don't work anymore, neither via serial console nor via keyboard. Only chance I have in this moment is to press reset-button, which already caused a full xfs-filsystem-corruption with dataloss once :-(
My problem is, that the hang happens not immediately after loading the driver but "somewhen" while it is loaded.
I have seen two types of crash:
1.) first investigations on my side seem to show that it happens, as soon as there is high dataload transfered, but I don't have detailed info yet.
2.) Running hostapd works fine while started first time, but no client is connected. When a client connects a system freeze occures "sometimes". Reproducably the system freezes immediately when starting hostapd, stop it and then restart hostapd. So every change in hostapd conf needs a full reboot, unloading the ath9k module and reload it does not prevent freeze, but after reboot I can start hostapd once without a problem (only the metioned "sometime" freezes on client connect or high data-volume).
As this machine is productive, I suspended testing for now. I will change the card into a non-productive environment in the next days. As soon as I find more details, I'll report.
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Please test with the latest drivers from wireless-testing/compat-wireless and restart in single user mode, we want to ensure X is not running at all and you are in a virtual terminal. We also do not want Network Manager or
wpa_supplicantrunning in the background. To increase the resolution upon bootup try booting with vga=ask (vga=791 works well for me), then try to associate to your access point without encryption manually using iwconfig.
Ok, that'll be a thing I'd need to test to, as in my case wpa_supplicant is running.
Best regards
Jens
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If there is an oops it should hopefully come up.
Luis
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Quoted 10 lines · Jens Ott - Opteamax
Hi,
Quoted 6 lines · Luis R. Rodriguez
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Barry Green <[email protected]> wrote:
[...]
We need an oops trace of your crashes so far it seems you have not been able to get one, lets work on that. Until then it is not easy for us to provide you with patches to fix your issues.
Quoted 6 lines
I also have similar problems with an D-LINK DWA-547 and I'd really like to provide the oops trace, but unfortunately the machine seems to hang that fast, that even no oops trace is shown. Also magic-sysreq don't work anymore, neither via serial console nor via keyboard. Only chance I have in this moment is to press reset-button, which already caused a full xfs-filsystem-corruption with dataloss once :-(
What kernel are you using? Please note that 2.6.27 had some DMA issues which were fixed since 2.6.27.8. So if you are using an older kenrel than 2.6.27.8 you need to upgrade.
If you are using compat-wireless drivers then that's the latest and greatest.
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My problem is, that the hang happens not immediately after loading the driver but "somewhen" while it is loaded.
I have seen two types of crash:
1.) first investigations on my side seem to show that it happens, as soon as there is high dataload transfered, but I don't have detailed info yet. 2.) Running hostapd works fine while started first time, but no client is connected. When a client connects a system freeze occures "sometimes". Reproducably the system freezes immediately when starting hostapd, stop it and then restart hostapd. So every change in hostapd conf needs a full reboot, unloading the ath9k module and reload it does not prevent freeze, but after reboot I can start hostapd once without a problem (only the metioned "sometime" freezes on client connect or high data-volume).
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As this machine is productive, I suspended testing for now. I will change the card into a non-productive environment in the next days. As soon as I find more details, I'll report.
I'll reply to the thread with some more suggestions as to what can be done to help us debug this issue in another e-mail, please see that. You may be able to help as you can reproduce these issues easily it seems.
Luis
Quoted 46 lines · On Sunday 04 January 2009 10:58:02 Jens Ott - Opteamax wrote:
Hi,
Quoted 5 lines · Luis R. Rodriguez
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Barry Green <[email protected]> wrote:
[...]
We need an oops trace of your crashes so far it seems you have not been able to get one, lets work on that. Until then it is not easy for us to provide you with patches to fix your issues.I also have similar problems with an D-LINK DWA-547 and I'd really like to provide the oops trace, but unfortunately the machine seems to hang that fast, that even no oops trace is shown. Also magic-sysreq don't work anymore, neither via serial console nor via keyboard. Only chance I have in this moment is to press reset-button, which already caused a full xfs-filsystem-corruption with dataloss once :-(
My problem is, that the hang happens not immediately after loading the driver but "somewhen" while it is loaded.
I have seen two types of crash:
1.) first investigations on my side seem to show that it happens, as soon as there is high dataload transfered, but I don't have detailed info yet.
2.) Running hostapd works fine while started first time, but no client is connected. When a client connects a system freeze occures "sometimes". Reproducably the system freezes immediately when starting hostapd, stop it and then restart hostapd. So every change in hostapd conf needs a full reboot, unloading the ath9k module and reload it does not prevent freeze, but after reboot I can start hostapd once without a problem (only the metioned "sometime" freezes on client connect or high data-volume).As this machine is productive, I suspended testing for now. I will change the card into a non-productive environment in the next days. As soon as I find more details, I'll report.
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Please test with the latest drivers from wireless-testing/compat-wireless and restart in single user mode, we want to ensure X is not running at all and you are in a virtual terminal. We also do not want Network Manager or
wpa_supplicantrunning in the background. To increase the resolution upon bootup try booting with vga=ask (vga=791 works well for me), then try to associate to your access point without encryption manually using iwconfig.
Quoted 3 lines
Ok, that'll be a thing I'd need to test to, as in my case
wpa_supplicantis running.
Hi,
What is the status of your problem? I still have problems with it and have no progress...
gr,
Willem
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Hi,
I did not find the time to further investigate this issue. Well what I did today was compile the latest git-update and the latest hostapd. At least the machine does not crash that often, but with 802.11n I can't connect to the card ... but this might also be a problem with the card in my laptop. I hope I'll find the time to go on testing next week.
Best regards
Jens
Quoted 49 lines · W. van den Akker
Quoted 44 lines · On Sunday 04 January 2009 10:58:02 Jens Ott - Opteamax wrote:
Hi,
Quoted 5 lines · Luis R. Rodriguez
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Barry Green <[email protected]> wrote:
[...]
We need an oops trace of your crashes so far it seems you have not been able to get one, lets work on that. Until then it is not easy for us to provide you with patches to fix your issues.I also have similar problems with an D-LINK DWA-547 and I'd really like to provide the oops trace, but unfortunately the machine seems to hang that fast, that even no oops trace is shown. Also magic-sysreq don't work anymore, neither via serial console nor via keyboard. Only chance I have in this moment is to press reset-button, which already caused a full xfs-filsystem-corruption with dataloss once :-(
My problem is, that the hang happens not immediately after loading the driver but "somewhen" while it is loaded.
I have seen two types of crash:
1.) first investigations on my side seem to show that it happens, as soon as there is high dataload transfered, but I don't have detailed info yet.
2.) Running hostapd works fine while started first time, but no client is connected. When a client connects a system freeze occures "sometimes". Reproducably the system freezes immediately when starting hostapd, stop it and then restart hostapd. So every change in hostapd conf needs a full reboot, unloading the ath9k module and reload it does not prevent freeze, but after reboot I can start hostapd once without a problem (only the metioned "sometime" freezes on client connect or high data-volume).As this machine is productive, I suspended testing for now. I will change the card into a non-productive environment in the next days. As soon as I find more details, I'll report.
Quoted 8 lines
Please test with the latest drivers from wireless-testing/compat-wireless and restart in single user mode, we want to ensure X is not running at all and you are in a virtual terminal. We also do not want Network Manager or
wpa_supplicantrunning in the background. To increase the resolution upon bootup try booting with vga=ask (vga=791 works well for me), then try to associate to your access point without encryption manually using iwconfig.Quoted 3 lines
Ok, that'll be a thing I'd need to test to, as in my case
wpa_supplicantis running.
Quoted 8 lines
Hi,
What is the status of your problem? I still have problems with it and have no progress...
gr,
Willem
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Hi,
I did not find the time to further investigate this issue. Well what I did today was compile the latest git-update and the latest hostapd. At least the machine does not crash that often, but with 802.11n I can't connect to the card ... but this might also be a problem with the card in my laptop. I hope I'll find the time to go on testing next week.
I have the same problem with my laptop. Cant make a connection if 802.11n is enabled. I have tested with hostapd 0.6.7 and I didnt notice any changes.
Let me know if you have any progress.
gr,
Willem
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Quoted 48 lines · On Sunday 04 January 2009 10:58:02 Jens Ott - Opteamax wrote:
Hi,
Quoted 6 lines · Luis R. Rodriguez
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Barry Green <[email protected]> wrote:
[...]
We need an oops trace of your crashes so far it seems you have not been able to get one, lets work on that. Until then it is not easy for us to provide you with patches to fix your issues.I also have similar problems with an D-LINK DWA-547 and I'd really like to provide the oops trace, but unfortunately the machine seems to hang that fast, that even no oops trace is shown. Also magic-sysreq don't work anymore, neither via serial console nor via keyboard. Only chance I have in this moment is to press reset-button, which already caused a full xfs-filsystem-corruption with dataloss once :-(
My problem is, that the hang happens not immediately after loading the driver but "somewhen" while it is loaded.
I have seen two types of crash:
1.) first investigations on my side seem to show that it happens, as soon as there is high dataload transfered, but I don't have detailed info yet.
2.) Running hostapd works fine while started first time, but no client is connected. When a client connects a system freeze occures "sometimes". Reproducably the system freezes immediately when starting hostapd, stop it and then restart hostapd. So every change in hostapd conf needs a full reboot, unloading the ath9k module and reload it does not prevent freeze, but after reboot I can start hostapd once without a problem (only the metioned "sometime" freezes on client connect or high data-volume).As this machine is productive, I suspended testing for now. I will change the card into a non-productive environment in the next days. As soon as I find more details, I'll report.
Quoted 9 lines
Please test with the latest drivers from wireless-testing/compat-wireless and restart in single user mode, we want to ensure X is not running at all and you are in a virtual terminal. We also do not want Network Manager or
wpa_supplicantrunning in the background. To increase the resolution upon bootup try booting with vga=ask (vga=791 works well for me), then try to associate to your access point without encryption manually using iwconfig.Quoted 4 lines
Ok, that'll be a thing I'd need to test to, as in my case
wpa_supplicantis running.
Quoted 9 lines
Hi,
What is the status of your problem? I still have problems with it and have no progress...
gr,
Willem
Hello Willem.
I think I have had similar issue to yours.
Car was working for short period of time and after a while crashed computer. I was advised to change kernel version, i updated it to 2.6.27.9 and problem has gone away since.
It's something to do with DMA.
Perhaps try to upgrade kernel?
Regards
Dmitri
Quoted 68 lines · Dmitri Seletski
Quoted 50 lines · W. van den Akker
Quoted 46 lines · On Sunday 04 January 2009 10:58:02 Jens Ott - Opteamax wrote:
Hi,
Quoted 5 lines · Luis R. Rodriguez
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Barry Green <[email protected]> wrote:
[...]
We need an oops trace of your crashes so far it seems you have not been able to get one, lets work on that. Until then it is not easy for us to provide you with patches to fix your issues.I also have similar problems with an D-LINK DWA-547 and I'd really like to provide the oops trace, but unfortunately the machine seems to hang that fast, that even no oops trace is shown. Also magic-sysreq don't work anymore, neither via serial console nor via keyboard. Only chance I have in this moment is to press reset-button, which already caused a full xfs-filsystem-corruption with dataloss once :-(
My problem is, that the hang happens not immediately after loading the driver but "somewhen" while it is loaded.
I have seen two types of crash:
1.) first investigations on my side seem to show that it happens, as soon as there is high dataload transfered, but I don't have detailed info yet.
2.) Running hostapd works fine while started first time, but no client is connected. When a client connects a system freeze occures "sometimes". Reproducably the system freezes immediately when starting hostapd, stop it and then restart hostapd. So every change in hostapd conf needs a full reboot, unloading the ath9k module and reload it does not prevent freeze, but after reboot I can start hostapd once without a problem (only the metioned "sometime" freezes on client connect or high data-volume).As this machine is productive, I suspended testing for now. I will change the card into a non-productive environment in the next days. As soon as I find more details, I'll report.
Quoted 8 lines
Please test with the latest drivers from wireless-testing/compat-wireless and restart in single user mode, we want to ensure X is not running at all and you are in a virtual terminal. We also do not want Network Manager or
wpa_supplicantrunning in the background. To increase the resolution upon bootup try booting with vga=ask (vga=791 works well for me), then try to associate to your access point without encryption manually using iwconfig.Quoted 2 lines
Ok, that'll be a thing I'd need to test to, as in my case
wpa_supplicantis running.Quoted 7 lines
Hi,
What is the status of your problem? I still have problems with it and have no progress...
gr,
WillemHello Willem.
I think I have had similar issue to yours.
Car was working for short period of time and after a while crashed computer. I was advised to change kernel version, i updated it to 2.6.27.9 and problem has gone away since.
It's something to do with DMA.
Quoted 4 lines
Perhaps try to upgrade kernel?
Regards
Dmitri
I have tried all kernel versions till 2.6.28 and still have the same hang-ups. I think indeed its a DMA-hardware-ath9k related problem. ?The patch in 2.6.27.8 didnt work for me. I have filled a bugreport on bugzilla.kernel but because AP isnt supported untill 2.6.29 the report is closed.
I will test today 2.6.29.rc2 and see if it has any progress.
gr,
Willem
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Quoted 46 lines · On Sunday 04 January 2009 10:58:02 Jens Ott - Opteamax wrote:
Hi,
Quoted 5 lines · Luis R. Rodriguez
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Barry Green <[email protected]> wrote:
[...]
We need an oops trace of your crashes so far it seems you have not been able to get one, lets work on that. Until then it is not easy for us to provide you with patches to fix your issues.I also have similar problems with an D-LINK DWA-547 and I'd really like to provide the oops trace, but unfortunately the machine seems to hang that fast, that even no oops trace is shown. Also magic-sysreq don't work anymore, neither via serial console nor via keyboard. Only chance I have in this moment is to press reset-button, which already caused a full xfs-filsystem-corruption with dataloss once :-(
My problem is, that the hang happens not immediately after loading the driver but "somewhen" while it is loaded.
I have seen two types of crash:
1.) first investigations on my side seem to show that it happens, as soon as there is high dataload transfered, but I don't have detailed info yet.
2.) Running hostapd works fine while started first time, but no client is connected. When a client connects a system freeze occures "sometimes". Reproducably the system freezes immediately when starting hostapd, stop it and then restart hostapd. So every change in hostapd conf needs a full reboot, unloading the ath9k module and reload it does not prevent freeze, but after reboot I can start hostapd once without a problem (only the metioned "sometime" freezes on client connect or high data-volume).As this machine is productive, I suspended testing for now. I will change the card into a non-productive environment in the next days. As soon as I find more details, I'll report.
Quoted 8 lines
Please test with the latest drivers from wireless-testing/compat-wireless and restart in single user mode, we want to ensure X is not running at all and you are in a virtual terminal. We also do not want Network Manager or
wpa_supplicantrunning in the background. To increase the resolution upon bootup try booting with vga=ask (vga=791 works well for me), then try to associate to your access point without encryption manually using iwconfig.Quoted 2 lines
Ok, that'll be a thing I'd need to test to, as in my case
wpa_supplicantis running.Quoted 7 lines
Hi,
What is the status of your problem? I still have problems with it and have no progress...
gr,
WillemHello Willem.
I think I have had similar issue to yours.
Car was working for short period of time and after a while crashed computer. I was advised to change kernel version, i updated it to 2.6.27.9 and problem has gone away since.
It's something to do with DMA.Perhaps try to upgrade kernel?
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Regards
DmitriI have tried all kernel versions till 2.6.28 and still have the same hang-ups. I think indeed its a DMA-hardware-ath9k related problem. The patch in 2.6.27.8 didnt work for me. I have filled a bugreport on bugzilla.kernel but because AP isnt supported untill 2.6.29 the report is closed.
A better description of this is that AP support does not work (is not allowed) and therefore not supported on < 2.6.28.
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I will test today 2.6.29.rc2 and see if it has any progress.
You can also try wireless-testing (entire kernel) or compat-wireless (just updates your wireless stuff) for bleeding edge stuff.
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/developers/Documentation/git-guide
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download
Luis
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Quoted 72 lines · W. van den Akker
Quoted 71 lines · Dmitri Seletski
Quoted 51 lines · W. van den Akker
Quoted 47 lines · On Sunday 04 January 2009 10:58:02 Jens Ott - Opteamax wrote:
Hi,
Quoted 5 lines · Luis R. Rodriguez
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Barry Green <[email protected]>
wrote: [...]
We need an oops trace of your crashes so far it seems you have not been able to get one, lets work on that. Until then it is not easy for us to provide you with patches to fix your issues.I also have similar problems with an D-LINK DWA-547 and I'd really like to provide the oops trace, but unfortunately the machine seems to hang that fast, that even no oops trace is shown. Also magic-sysreq don't work anymore, neither via serial console nor via keyboard. Only chance I have in this moment is to press reset-button, which already caused a full xfs-filsystem-corruption with dataloss once :-(
My problem is, that the hang happens not immediately after loading the driver but "somewhen" while it is loaded.
I have seen two types of crash:
1.) first investigations on my side seem to show that it happens, as soon as there is high dataload transfered, but I don't have detailed info yet.
2.) Running hostapd works fine while started first time, but no client is connected. When a client connects a system freeze occures "sometimes". Reproducably the system freezes immediately when starting hostapd, stop it and then restart hostapd. So every change in hostapd conf needs a full reboot, unloading the ath9k module and reload it does not prevent freeze, but after reboot I can start hostapd once without a problem (only the metioned "sometime" freezes on client connect or high data-volume).As this machine is productive, I suspended testing for now. I will change the card into a non-productive environment in the next days. As soon as I find more details, I'll report.
Quoted 8 lines
Please test with the latest drivers from wireless-testing/compat-wireless and restart in single user mode, we want to ensure X is not running at all and you are in a virtual terminal. We also do not want Network Manager or
wpa_supplicantrunning in the background. To increase the resolution upon bootup try booting with vga=ask (vga=791 works well for me), then try to associate to your access point without encryption manually using iwconfig.Quoted 2 lines
Ok, that'll be a thing I'd need to test to, as in my case
wpa_supplicantis running.Quoted 7 lines
Hi,
What is the status of your problem? I still have problems with it and have no progress...
gr,
WillemHello Willem.
I think I have had similar issue to yours.
Car was working for short period of time and after a while crashed computer. I was advised to change kernel version, i updated it to 2.6.27.9 and problem has gone away since.
It's something to do with DMA.Perhaps try to upgrade kernel?
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Regards
DmitriI have tried all kernel versions till 2.6.28 and still have the same hang-ups. I think indeed its a DMA-hardware-ath9k related problem. The patch in 2.6.27.8 didnt work for me. I have filled a bugreport on bugzilla.kernel but because AP isnt supported untill 2.6.29 the report is closed.
A better description of this is that AP support does not work (is not allowed) and therefore not supported on < 2.6.28.
Quoted 1 line
I will test today 2.6.29.rc2 and see if it has any progress.
Quoted 7 lines
You can also try wireless-testing (entire kernel) or compat-wireless (just updates your wireless stuff) for bleeding edge stuff.
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/developers/Documentation/git-guide
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/DownloadLuis
I have tried all kernel versions till 2.6.28 and still have the same hang-ups. I think indeed its a DMA-hardware-ath9k related problem. ?The patch in 2.6.27.8 didnt work for me. I have filled a bugreport on bugzilla.kernel but because AP isnt supported untill 2.6.29 the report is closed.
I will test today 2.6.29.rc2 and see if it has any progress.
gr,
Willem
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Quoted 47 lines · On Sunday 04 January 2009 10:58:02 Jens Ott - Opteamax wrote:
Hi,
Quoted 5 lines · Luis R. Rodriguez
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Barry Green <[email protected]>
wrote: [...]
We need an oops trace of your crashes so far it seems you have not been able to get one, lets work on that. Until then it is not easy for us to provide you with patches to fix your issues.I also have similar problems with an D-LINK DWA-547 and I'd really like to provide the oops trace, but unfortunately the machine seems to hang that fast, that even no oops trace is shown. Also magic-sysreq don't work anymore, neither via serial console nor via keyboard. Only chance I have in this moment is to press reset-button, which already caused a full xfs-filsystem-corruption with dataloss once :-(
My problem is, that the hang happens not immediately after loading the driver but "somewhen" while it is loaded.
I have seen two types of crash:
1.) first investigations on my side seem to show that it happens, as soon as there is high dataload transfered, but I don't have detailed info yet.
2.) Running hostapd works fine while started first time, but no client is connected. When a client connects a system freeze occures "sometimes". Reproducably the system freezes immediately when starting hostapd, stop it and then restart hostapd. So every change in hostapd conf needs a full reboot, unloading the ath9k module and reload it does not prevent freeze, but after reboot I can start hostapd once without a problem (only the metioned "sometime" freezes on client connect or high data-volume).As this machine is productive, I suspended testing for now. I will change the card into a non-productive environment in the next days. As soon as I find more details, I'll report.
Quoted 8 lines
Please test with the latest drivers from wireless-testing/compat-wireless and restart in single user mode, we want to ensure X is not running at all and you are in a virtual terminal. We also do not want Network Manager or
wpa_supplicantrunning in the background. To increase the resolution upon bootup try booting with vga=ask (vga=791 works well for me), then try to associate to your access point without encryption manually using iwconfig.Quoted 2 lines
Ok, that'll be a thing I'd need to test to, as in my case
wpa_supplicantis running.Quoted 7 lines
Hi,
What is the status of your problem? I still have problems with it and have no progress...
gr,
WillemHello Willem.
I think I have had similar issue to yours.
Car was working for short period of time and after a while crashed computer. I was advised to change kernel version, i updated it to 2.6.27.9 and problem has gone away since.
It's something to do with DMA.Perhaps try to upgrade kernel?
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Quoted 2 lines
Regards
DmitriI have tried all kernel versions till 2.6.28 and still have the same hang-ups. I think indeed its a DMA-hardware-ath9k related problem. The patch in 2.6.27.8 didnt work for me. I have filled a bugreport on bugzilla.kernel but because AP isnt supported untill 2.6.29 the report is closed.
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A better description of this is that AP support does not work (is not allowed) and therefore not supported on < 2.6.28.
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I will test today 2.6.29.rc2 and see if it has any progress.
You can also try wireless-testing (entire kernel) or compat-wireless (just updates your wireless stuff) for bleeding edge stuff.
I tested it today with kernel 2.6.29-rc2. But no change. The kernel hangs completly (without oops or what so ever, even nmi-watchdog has no results). It happend when I started the connection (from a IW4965 card). Then started up a Kmail connection, start up a browser sessie. Stop Kmail, and start Kmail.
It also happens when I do a hostapd start, hostapd stop, hostapd start.
Its a IBM 206 eserver, with no X running on it. The card is a WMP300N.
Any hints?
gr,
Willem
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Quoted 47 lines · On Sunday 04 January 2009 10:58:02 Jens Ott - Opteamax wrote:
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Quoted 5 lines · Luis R. Rodriguez
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Barry Green <[email protected]>
wrote: [...]
We need an oops trace of your crashes so far it seems you have not been able to get one, lets work on that. Until then it is not easy for us to provide you with patches to fix your issues.I also have similar problems with an D-LINK DWA-547 and I'd really like to provide the oops trace, but unfortunately the machine seems to hang that fast, that even no oops trace is shown. Also magic-sysreq don't work anymore, neither via serial console nor via keyboard. Only chance I have in this moment is to press reset-button, which already caused a full xfs-filsystem-corruption with dataloss once :-(
My problem is, that the hang happens not immediately after loading the driver but "somewhen" while it is loaded.
I have seen two types of crash:
1.) first investigations on my side seem to show that it happens, as soon as there is high dataload transfered, but I don't have detailed info yet.
2.) Running hostapd works fine while started first time, but no client is connected. When a client connects a system freeze occures "sometimes". Reproducably the system freezes immediately when starting hostapd, stop it and then restart hostapd. So every change in hostapd conf needs a full reboot, unloading the ath9k module and reload it does not prevent freeze, but after reboot I can start hostapd once without a problem (only the metioned "sometime" freezes on client connect or high data-volume).As this machine is productive, I suspended testing for now. I will change the card into a non-productive environment in the next days. As soon as I find more details, I'll report.
Quoted 8 lines
Please test with the latest drivers from wireless-testing/compat-wireless and restart in single user mode, we want to ensure X is not running at all and you are in a virtual terminal. We also do not want Network Manager or
wpa_supplicantrunning in the background. To increase the resolution upon bootup try booting with vga=ask (vga=791 works well for me), then try to associate to your access point without encryption manually using iwconfig.Quoted 2 lines
Ok, that'll be a thing I'd need to test to, as in my case
wpa_supplicantis running.Quoted 7 lines
Hi,
What is the status of your problem? I still have problems with it and have no progress...
gr,
WillemHello Willem.
I think I have had similar issue to yours.
Car was working for short period of time and after a while crashed computer. I was advised to change kernel version, i updated it to 2.6.27.9 and problem has gone away since.
It's something to do with DMA.Perhaps try to upgrade kernel?
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Regards
DmitriI have tried all kernel versions till 2.6.28 and still have the same hang-ups. I think indeed its a DMA-hardware-ath9k related problem. The patch in 2.6.27.8 didnt work for me. I have filled a bugreport on bugzilla.kernel but because AP isnt supported untill 2.6.29 the report is closed.
Quoted 8 lines
A better description of this is that AP support does not work (is not allowed) and therefore not supported on < 2.6.28.
Quoted 1 line
I will test today 2.6.29.rc2 and see if it has any progress.
You can also try wireless-testing (entire kernel) or compat-wireless (just updates your wireless stuff) for bleeding edge stuff.
I tested it today with kernel 2.6.29-rc2. But no change. The kernel hangs completly (without oops or what so ever, even nmi-watchdog has no results). It happend when I started the connection (from a IW4965 card). Then started up a Kmail connection, start up a browser sessie. Stop Kmail, and start Kmail.
Quoted 5 lines
It also happens when I do a hostapd start, hostapd stop, hostapd start.
Its a IBM 206 eserver, with no X running on it. The card is a WMP300N.
Any hints?
Since you are not getting any panic can you try wireless-testing git tree [1], this will get you the latest and greatest wireless drivers and mac80211/cfg80211 which are now being queued up for 2.6.30. See if you see the issue there. If so then you can use git bisect.
[1] http://wireless.kernel.org/en/developers/Documentation/git-guide
Luis
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Quoted 48 lines · On Sunday 04 January 2009 10:58:02 Jens Ott - Opteamax wrote:
Hi,
Quoted 5 lines · Luis R. Rodriguez
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Barry Green <[email protected]>
wrote: [...]
We need an oops trace of your crashes so far it seems you have not been able to get one, lets work on that. Until then it is not easy for us to provide you with patches to fix your issues.I also have similar problems with an D-LINK DWA-547 and I'd really like to provide the oops trace, but unfortunately the machine seems to hang that fast, that even no oops trace is shown. Also magic-sysreq don't work anymore, neither via serial console nor via keyboard. Only chance I have in this moment is to press
reset-button, which already caused a full xfs-filsystem-corruption with dataloss once :-(My problem is, that the hang happens not immediately after loading the driver but "somewhen" while it is loaded.
I have seen two types of crash:
1.) first investigations on my side seem to show that it happens, as soon as there is high dataload transfered, but I don't have detailed info yet.
2.) Running hostapd works fine while started first time, but no client is connected. When a client connects a system freeze occures "sometimes". Reproducably the system freezes immediately when starting hostapd, stop it and then restart hostapd. So every change in hostapd conf needs a full reboot, unloading the ath9k module and reload it does not prevent freeze, but after reboot I can start hostapd once without a problem (only the metioned "sometime" freezes on client connect or high data-volume).As this machine is productive, I suspended testing for now. I will change the card into a non-productive environment in the next days. As soon as I find more details, I'll report.
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Please test with the latest drivers from wireless-testing/compat-wireless and restart in single user mode, we want to ensure X is not running at all and you are in a virtual terminal. We also do not want Network Manager or
wpa_supplicantrunning in the background. To increase the resolution upon bootup try booting with vga=ask (vga=791 works well for me), then try to associate to your access point without encryption manually using iwconfig.Quoted 2 lines
Ok, that'll be a thing I'd need to test to, as in my case
wpa_supplicantis running.Quoted 7 lines
Hi,
What is the status of your problem? I still have problems with it and have no progress...
gr,
WillemHello Willem.
I think I have had similar issue to yours.
Car was working for short period of time and after a while crashed computer. I was advised to change kernel version, i updated it to 2.6.27.9 and problem has gone away since.
It's something to do with DMA.Perhaps try to upgrade kernel?
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Regards
DmitriI have tried all kernel versions till 2.6.28 and still have the same hang-ups. I think indeed its a DMA-hardware-ath9k related problem. The patch in 2.6.27.8 didnt work for me. I have filled a bugreport on bugzilla.kernel but because AP isnt supported untill 2.6.29 the report is closed.
Quoted 7 lines
A better description of this is that AP support does not work (is not allowed) and therefore not supported on < 2.6.28.
Quoted 1 line
I will test today 2.6.29.rc2 and see if it has any progress.
You can also try wireless-testing (entire kernel) or compat-wireless (just updates your wireless stuff) for bleeding edge stuff.
I tested it today with kernel 2.6.29-rc2. But no change. The kernel hangs completly (without oops or what so ever, even nmi-watchdog has no results). It happend when I started the connection (from a IW4965 card). Then started up a Kmail connection, start up a browser sessie. Stop Kmail, and start Kmail.
It also happens when I do a hostapd start, hostapd stop, hostapd start.
Its a IBM 206 eserver, with no X running on it. The card is a WMP300N.
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 1 line
Any hints?
Since you are not getting any panic can you try wireless-testing git tree [1], this will get you the latest and greatest wireless drivers and mac80211/cfg80211 which are now being queued up for 2.6.30. See if you see the issue there. If so then you can use git bisect.
[1] http://wireless.kernel.org/en/developers/Documentation/git-guide
I will use the latest drivers from wl. The last I tried was 18-1 and that didnt had any success.
To be continued.
Willem
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Quoted 48 lines · On Sunday 04 January 2009 10:58:02 Jens Ott - Opteamax wrote:
Hi,
Quoted 5 lines · Luis R. Rodriguez
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Barry Green <[email protected]>
wrote: [...]
We need an oops trace of your crashes so far it seems you have not been able to get one, lets work on that. Until then it is not easy for us to provide you with patches to fix your issues.I also have similar problems with an D-LINK DWA-547 and I'd really like to provide the oops trace, but unfortunately the machine seems to hang that fast, that even no oops trace is shown. Also magic-sysreq don't work anymore, neither via serial console nor via keyboard. Only chance I have in this moment is to press
reset-button, which already caused a full xfs-filsystem-corruption with dataloss once :-(My problem is, that the hang happens not immediately after loading the driver but "somewhen" while it is loaded.
I have seen two types of crash:
1.) first investigations on my side seem to show that it happens, as soon as there is high dataload transfered, but I don't have detailed info yet.
2.) Running hostapd works fine while started first time, but no client is connected. When a client connects a system freeze occures "sometimes". Reproducably the system freezes immediately when starting hostapd, stop it and then restart hostapd. So every change in hostapd conf needs a full reboot, unloading the ath9k module and reload it does not prevent freeze, but after reboot I can start hostapd once without a problem (only the metioned "sometime" freezes on client connect or high data-volume).As this machine is productive, I suspended testing for now. I will change the card into a non-productive environment in the next days. As soon as I find more details, I'll report.
Quoted 8 lines
Please test with the latest drivers from wireless-testing/compat-wireless and restart in single user mode, we want to ensure X is not running at all and you are in a virtual terminal. We also do not want Network Manager or
wpa_supplicantrunning in the background. To increase the resolution upon bootup try booting with vga=ask (vga=791 works well for me), then try to associate to your access point without encryption manually using iwconfig.Quoted 2 lines
Ok, that'll be a thing I'd need to test to, as in my case
wpa_supplicantis running.Quoted 7 lines
Hi,
What is the status of your problem? I still have problems with it and have no progress...
gr,
WillemHello Willem.
I think I have had similar issue to yours.
Car was working for short period of time and after a while crashed computer. I was advised to change kernel version, i updated it to 2.6.27.9 and problem has gone away since.
It's something to do with DMA.Perhaps try to upgrade kernel?
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Regards
DmitriI have tried all kernel versions till 2.6.28 and still have the same hang-ups. I think indeed its a DMA-hardware-ath9k related problem. The patch in 2.6.27.8 didnt work for me. I have filled a bugreport on bugzilla.kernel but because AP isnt supported untill 2.6.29 the report is closed.
Quoted 7 lines
A better description of this is that AP support does not work (is not allowed) and therefore not supported on < 2.6.28.
Quoted 1 line
I will test today 2.6.29.rc2 and see if it has any progress.
You can also try wireless-testing (entire kernel) or compat-wireless (just updates your wireless stuff) for bleeding edge stuff.
I tested it today with kernel 2.6.29-rc2. But no change. The kernel hangs completly (without oops or what so ever, even nmi-watchdog has no results). It happend when I started the connection (from a IW4965 card). Then started up a Kmail connection, start up a browser sessie. Stop Kmail, and start Kmail.
It also happens when I do a hostapd start, hostapd stop, hostapd start.
Quoted 9 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Its a IBM 206 eserver, with no X running on it. The card is a WMP300N.
Any hints?
Since you are not getting any panic can you try wireless-testing git tree [1], this will get you the latest and greatest wireless drivers and mac80211/cfg80211 which are now being queued up for 2.6.30. See if you see the issue there. If so then you can use git bisect.
Also the latest wireless testing git has the same problem. No Oops, trace or any panic visible.
Some nasty problem here.....
gr,
Willem
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Quoted 57 lines · On Sunday 04 January 2009 10:58:02 Jens Ott - Opteamax wrote:
Hi,
Quoted 7 lines · Luis R. Rodriguez
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Barry Green <[email protected]>
wrote: [...]
We need an oops trace of your crashes so far it seems you have not been able to get one, lets work on that. Until then it is not easy for us to provide you with patches to fix your issues.I also have similar problems with an D-LINK DWA-547 and I'd really like to provide the oops trace, but unfortunately the machine seems to hang that fast, that even no oops trace is shown. Also magic-sysreq don't work anymore, neither via serial console nor via keyboard. Only chance I have in this moment is to
press
reset-button, which already caused a full xfs-filsystem-corruption with dataloss once :-(My problem is, that the hang happens not immediately after loading the driver but "somewhen" while it is loaded.
I have seen two types of crash:
1.) first investigations on my side seem to show that it happens,
as soon as there is high dataload transfered, but I don't have detailed info yet.
2.) Running hostapd works fine while started first time, but no client is connected. When a client connects a system freeze occures "sometimes". Reproducably the system freezes immediately
when starting hostapd, stop it and then restart hostapd. So every
change in hostapd conf needs a full reboot, unloading the ath9k module and reload it does not prevent freeze, but after reboot I
can start hostapd once without a problem (only the metioned "sometime" freezes on client connect or high data-volume).As this machine is productive, I suspended testing for now. I will change the card into a non-productive environment in the next days. As soon as I find more details, I'll report.
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Please test with the latest drivers from wireless-testing/compat-wireless and restart in single user mode, we want to ensure X is not running at all and you are in a
virtual terminal. We also do not want Network Manager orwpa_supplicantrunning in the background. To increase the resolution upon bootup try booting with vga=ask (vga=791 works well for me), then try to associate to your access point without
encryption manually using iwconfig.Quoted 2 lines
Ok, that'll be a thing I'd need to test to, as in my case
wpa_supplicantis running.Quoted 8 lines
Hi,
What is the status of your problem? I still have problems with it
and have no progress...gr,
WillemHello Willem.
I think I have had similar issue to yours.
Car was working for short period of time and after a while crashed
computer. I was advised to change kernel version, i updated it to 2.6.27.9 and problem has gone away since.
It's something to do with DMA.Quoted 4 lines
Perhaps try to upgrade kernel?
Regards
DmitriQuoted 8 lines
I have tried all kernel versions till 2.6.28 and still have the same
hang-ups. I think indeed its a DMA-hardware-ath9k related problem. The patch in 2.6.27.8 didnt work for me. I have filled a bugreport on
bugzilla.kernel but because AP isnt supported untill 2.6.29 the report
is closed.A better description of this is that AP support does not work (is not
allowed) and therefore not supported on < 2.6.28.Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 1 line
I will test today 2.6.29.rc2 and see if it has any progress.
You can also try wireless-testing (entire kernel) or compat- wireless
(just updates your wireless stuff) for bleeding edge stuff.I tested it today with kernel 2.6.29-rc2. But no change. The kernel hangs
completly (without oops or what so ever, even nmi-watchdog has no results). It happend when I started the connection (from a IW4965 card).
Then started up a Kmail connection, start up a browser sessie. Stop Kmail, and start Kmail.It also happens when I do a hostapd start, hostapd stop, hostapd start.
Its a IBM 206 eserver, with no X running on it. The card is a WMP300N.
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 1 line
Any hints?
Since you are not getting any panic can you try wireless-testing git tree [1], this will get you the latest and greatest wireless drivers and mac80211/cfg80211 which are now being queued up for 2.6.30. See if
you see the issue there. If so then you can use git bisect.
Quoted 9 lines
Also the latest wireless testing git has the same problem. No Oops, trace or any panic visible.
Some nasty problem here.....
gr,
Willem
This is interesting since I had the same lockups using the module ath9k, including Gentoo's newest 2.6.27-gentoo-r7, the compat- wireless newest git compiled with wireless-testing, and using wireless-testing itself (newest as of a day ago). So all of those, when used on the console with just hostapd (version 0.6.7) to setup an AP, would freeze the system without any messages or information. This was on an HP xw8200 workstation using 2 Xeon hyperthreaded CPU's, so a very large system and lots of possible locking-bugs finding there. So I built a test system with a Uni Processor system, an older compaq P4 workstation that isn't SMP and not multithreaded. Now it works very stable on the UP system, compared with the SMP Hyperthreaded one.
So I've been really happy with it now, I've been able to get the AP going using the newest wireless-testing using WPA-PSK encryption with the newest hostapd. This was doing exactly what your reporting on my HP SMP system,and I duplicated the system when I setup the Compaq UP system, so nothing is different except hardware.
I have been watching this thread and as of last night since I got it working on the UP system, and today tweaked the system to match my Apple Airport Extreme AP (have 802.11n enabled, using the setting "ht_capab=[HT40+][SHORT-GI-40][DSSS_CCK-40]" which seems to have gotten it to be faster than the Apple AP for my Windows systems using Linksys WMP300N cards (the American ones with the Broadcom chips). Since today from this working now, and your newest email about using the exact same wireless-testing kernel I'm using (mine is newest git version as-of last night).
So my theory is that I was triggering the same problem using SMP/ Hyperthreading, I suspect your system is not a smaller single processor system? That would at least support that theory. I think the problem could be a spinlock locking problem in the interrupt handler, or something like that. I've programmed drivers, wrote a good part of the IVTV driver, and this behavior reminds me of what I saw there at times during development (it would be stable on UP systems, lock like this on SMP systems). I have been peeking around in the code some to get familiar with it, but of course may take some time for me to start grasping what is going on to be able to contribute any help myself. So this is just what I'm thinking, since freezes like this often seem to be something wrong in the interrupt handler for SMP/preemption configured systems. If you are using SMP, maybe trying it with just one processor enabled would be a good test to see if this is really true there too.
Thanks,
Chris
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So my theory is that I was triggering the same problem using SMP/ Hyperthreading, I suspect your system is not a smaller single processor system? That would at least support that theory. I think the problem could be a spinlock locking problem in the interrupt handler, or something like that. I've programmed drivers, wrote a good part of the IVTV driver, and this behavior reminds me of what I saw there at times during development (it would be stable on UP systems, lock like this on SMP systems). I have been peeking around in the code some to get familiar with it, but of course may take some time for me to start grasping what is going on to be able to contribute any help myself. So this is just what I'm thinking, since freezes like this often seem to be something wrong in the interrupt handler for SMP/preemption configured systems. If you are using SMP, maybe trying it with just one processor enabled would be a good test to see if this is really true there too.
Hil Chris,
This is correct. Its a SMP system with HT. So I think your assumption is right. It must be in that direction.
I will try to test it with one CPU disabled.
I will report back.
gr,
Willem
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So my theory is that I was triggering the same problem using SMP/ Hyperthreading, I suspect your system is not a smaller single processor system? That would at least support that theory. I think the problem could be a spinlock locking problem in the interrupt handler, or something like that. I've programmed drivers, wrote a good part of the IVTV driver, and this behavior reminds me of what I saw there at times during development (it would be stable on UP
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systems, lock like this on SMP systems). I have been peeking around in the code some to get familiar with it, but of course may take some time for me to start grasping what is going on to be able to contribute any help myself. So this is just what I'm thinking, since freezes like this often seem to be something wrong in the interrupt handler for SMP/preemption configured systems. If you are using SMP, maybe trying it with just one processor enabled would be a good test to see if this is really true there too.
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Hil Chris,
This is correct. Its a SMP system with HT. So I think your assumption is right. It must be in that direction.
I will try to test it with one CPU disabled.
I will report back.
I have tested with 1 CPU disabled. Running now for about 2 hours without hangups (I have several connection drops, but it will reconnect).
I have also tested with 2 CPU's and HT-disabled (noht parameter) but that had no effect.
So SMP looks like the cause of the problem here.
I will be happy to do further testing.
gr,
Willem
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I have tested with 1 CPU disabled. Running now for about 2 hours without hangups (I have several connection drops, but it will reconnect).
I have also tested with 2 CPU's and HT-disabled (noht parameter) but that had no effect.
So SMP looks like the cause of the problem here.
Thanks for testing this! I'm running most of my tests with a dual core system, so SMP is being used, but with two cores, not two separate chips. I don't think there should be much difference there, but certainly our hardware configuration is different.
Could you please describe your hardware with more details so that we can see whether we could find a similar system to try to reproduce this? Is this the IBM 206 eserver with WMP300N you mentioned in an earlier message in the thread? That seems to be (by default) a uni-processor setup, so I would like to make sure we understand what is the exact hardware used here since I do not think we have been able to reproduce this type of issue so far in any dual core systems.
- Jouni
PATCH 1/1 still same problem
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Quoted 9 lines · W. van den Akker
I have tested with 1 CPU disabled. Running now for about 2 hours without
hangups (I have several connection drops, but it will reconnect).I have also tested with 2 CPU's and HT-disabled (noht parameter) but that
had no effect.So SMP looks like the cause of the problem here.
Thanks for testing this! I'm running most of my tests with a dual core system, so SMP is being used, but with two cores, not two separate chips. I don't think there should be much difference there, but certainly our hardware configuration is different.
Could you please describe your hardware with more details so that we can
see whether we could find a similar system to try to reproduce this? Is
this the IBM 206 eserver with WMP300N you mentioned in an earlier message in the thread? That seems to be (by default) a uni-processor setup, so I would like to make sure we understand what is the exact hardware used here since I do not think we have been able to reproduce this type of issue so far in any dual core systems.
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- Jouni
This is a patch (against yesterdays current wireless-testing kernel)
that shows basically what we did in the IVTV driver,
essentially holding a spin_lock() in the interrupt handler. So it isn't even used, since compiled out, if a system isn't SMP. When the system is SMP it prevents multiple instances of the interrupt handler from happening. This seemed to be the magic fix there, I'm not sure if this is totally correct for this driver, but it's a patch to test (hopefully the
spinlock I used makes some sense, seems this also is good since wouldn't want to reset the card and have interrupts happen while that's going on?). It's at least an example showing what I suspect could
fix it, and would be interesting if you had the ability to test it on your SMP
system to see if it is just the interrupt handler where it's happening.
Thanks,
Chris
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Quoted 9 lines · W. van den Akker
I have tested with 1 CPU disabled. Running now for about 2 hours without
hangups (I have several connection drops, but it will reconnect).I have also tested with 2 CPU's and HT-disabled (noht parameter) but that
had no effect.So SMP looks like the cause of the problem here.
Thanks for testing this! I'm running most of my tests with a dual core system, so SMP is being used, but with two cores, not two separate chips. I don't think there should be much difference there, but certainly our hardware configuration is different.
Could you please describe your hardware with more details so that we can
see whether we could find a similar system to try to reproduce this? Is
this the IBM 206 eserver with WMP300N you mentioned in an earlier message in the thread? That seems to be (by default) a uni-processor setup, so I would like to make sure we understand what is the exact hardware used here since I do not think we have been able to reproduce this type of issue so far in any dual core systems.Quoted 1 line
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This is a patch (against yesterdays current wireless-testing kernel)
that shows basically what we did in the IVTV driver,
essentially holding aspin_lock()in the interrupt handler. So it isn't even used, since compiled out, if a system isn't SMP. When the system is SMP it prevents multiple instances of the interrupt handler from happening. This seemed to be the magic fix there, I'm not sure if this is totally correct for this driver, but it's a patch to test (hopefully the
spinlock I used makes some sense, seems this also is good since wouldn't want to reset the card and have interrupts happen while that's going on?). It's at least an example showing what I suspect could
fix it, and would be interesting if you had the ability to test it on your SMP
system to see if it is just the interrupt handler where it's happening.
Thanks Chris,
I applied the patch.... but no luck. Systems still hangs.
gr,
Willem
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PATCH 1/1 still same problem
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I have tested with 1 CPU disabled. Running now for about 2 hours without
hangups (I have several connection drops, but it will reconnect).I have also tested with 2 CPU's and HT-disabled (noht parameter) but that
had no effect.So SMP looks like the cause of the problem here.
Thanks for testing this! I'm running most of my tests with a dual core system, so SMP is being used, but with two cores, not two separate chips. I don't think there should be much difference there, but certainly our hardware configuration is different.
Could you please describe your hardware with more details so that we can
see whether we could find a similar system to try to reproduce this? Is
this the IBM 206 eserver with WMP300N you mentioned in an earlier message in the thread? That seems to be (by default) a uni-processor setup, so I would like to make sure we understand what is the exact hardware used here since I do not think we have been able to reproduce this type of issue so far in any dual core systems.Quoted 1 line
- Jouni
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This is a patch (against yesterdays current wireless-testing kernel)
that shows basically what we did in the IVTV driver,
essentially holding aspin_lock()in the interrupt handler. So it isn't even used, since compiled out, if a system isn't SMP. When the system is SMP it prevents multiple instances of the interrupt handler from happening. This seemed to be the magic fix there, I'm not sure if this is totally correct for this driver, but it's a patch to test (hopefully the
spinlock I used makes some sense, seems this also is good since wouldn't want to reset the card and have interrupts happen while that's going on?). It's at least an example showing what I suspect could
fix it, and would be interesting if you had the ability to test it on your SMP
system to see if it is just the interrupt handler where it's happening.
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Thanks Chris,
I applied the patch.... but no luck. Systems still hangs.
Running for about a week with one CPU. The driver works ok and the connection is rock-solid.
Any progress on the dual-CPU lockup?
gr,
Willem
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PATCH 1/1 still same problem
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Quoted 9 lines · W. van den Akker
I have tested with 1 CPU disabled. Running now for about 2 hours without
hangups (I have several connection drops, but it will reconnect).I have also tested with 2 CPU's and HT-disabled (noht parameter) but that
had no effect.So SMP looks like the cause of the problem here.
Thanks for testing this! I'm running most of my tests with a dual core
system, so SMP is being used, but with two cores, not two separate chips. I don't think there should be much difference there, but certainly our hardware configuration is different.Could you please describe your hardware with more details so that we can
see whether we could find a similar system to try to reproduce this? Is
this the IBM 206 eserver with WMP300N you mentioned in an earlier message in the thread? That seems to be (by default) a uni- processor
setup, so I would like to make sure we understand what is the exact hardware used here since I do not think we have been able to reproduce
this type of issue so far in any dual core systems.Quoted 1 line
- Jouni
This is a patch (against yesterdays current wireless-testing kernel)
that shows basically what we did in the IVTV driver,
essentially holding aspin_lock()in the interrupt handler. So it isn't even used, since compiled out, if a system isn't SMP. When the
system is SMP it prevents multiple instances of the interrupt handler
from happening. This seemed to be the magic fix there, I'm not sure if
this is totally correct for this driver, but it's a patch to test (hopefully the
spinlock I used makes some sense, seems this also is good sinceQuoted 8 lines
wouldn't want to reset the card and have interrupts happen while that's going on?). It's at least an example showing what I suspect could
fix it, and would be interesting if you had the ability to test it on
your SMP
system to see if it is just the interrupt handler where it's happening.Thanks Chris,
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I applied the patch.... but no luck. Systems still hangs.
Running for about a week with one CPU. The driver works ok and the connection is rock-solid.
Any progress on the dual-CPU lockup?
Same here, great on my one CPU system, minor kernel panic but that only happened 2 times when changing settings and restarting things so not triggered by normal use by me. Unfortunately my SMP system is too much 'in use' for me to test more on, and not wanting any risk of data loss.
Eventually would like to move the card into it of course since it's my main router system and
would be nice to have my wireless network routing directly into my main router. These SMP type system freezes seem hard to figure out, I'm not even sure how to really get detailed data and pinpoint where the locking problems would be. It's just frozen and I'm not sure a serial console would
even show anything or not. I think the usual procedure is to review the locking
and trial and error on an SMP system, guessing what could be wrong, doing it
by feel but basically blind about what your trying to fix. This is probably one of the
hardest parts of kernel development, especially for someone who didn't write the code
or knows the code inside and out, and even then I'm suspecting it's very elusive and
has to do with both the locking and the way the hardware is being accessed. Also
it's probaby rarer for people to be using a box as an AP that is SMP, since really
just need a low grade single processor system to do a dedicated routing system like
this. So I'm not getting my hopes up for my SMP box to be able to have the AP
functionality directly on it anytime soon :(, although it would be nice I'm getting by
pretty good on my spare UP system.
Thanks,
Chris
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gr,
Willem
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I have tested with 1 CPU disabled. Running now for about 2 hours without hangups (I have several connection drops, but it will reconnect).
I have also tested with 2 CPU's and HT-disabled (noht parameter) but that had no effect.
So SMP looks like the cause of the problem here.
Thanks for testing this! I'm running most of my tests with a dual core system, so SMP is being used, but with two cores, not two separate chips. I don't think there should be much difference there, but certainly our hardware configuration is different.
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Could you please describe your hardware with more details so that we can see whether we could find a similar system to try to reproduce this? Is this the IBM 206 eserver with WMP300N you mentioned in an earlier message in the thread? That seems to be (by default) a uni-processor setup, so I would like to make sure we understand what is the exact hardware used here since I do not think we have been able to reproduce this type of issue so far in any dual core systems.
Its indeed an IBM eServer x206 8482-2RX with a WMP300N (Linksys, Atheros Communications Inc. AR5416 802.11abgn Wireless PCI Adapter (rev 01). The IBM is a dual-core system with 2 CPU's on one fysical CPU-chip (its boxed so I am not for sure).
/proc/cpuinfo shows (with one CPU disabled)
processor : 0vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 15
model : 3
model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
stepping : 4
cpu MHz : 3000.473
cache size : 1024 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 1
core id : 0
cpu cores : 1
apicid : 0
initial apicid : 0fdiv_bug : nohlt_bug : nof00f_bug : nocoma_bug : no
fpu : yesfpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 5
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca
cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc up pebs bts pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl cid xtpr
bogomips : 6000.94
clflush size : 64
power management:
lscpi -vvv for the adapter shows:
03:02.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5416 802.11abgn Wireless PCI Adapter (rev 01)
Subsystem: Linksys Device 0061
Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr+
Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
<TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
Latency: 168, Cache Line Size: 32 bytes
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 25
Region 0: Memory@d0200000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
Capabilities: [40] #80 [0000]
Kernel driver in use: ath9k
Kernel modules: ath9k
If more information is needed I am happy to provide.
Greetings,
Willem
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So my theory is that I was triggering the same problem using SMP/ Hyperthreading, I suspect your system is not a smaller single processor system? That would at least support that theory. I think the problem could be a spinlock locking problem in the interrupt handler, or something like that. I've programmed drivers, wrote a good part of the IVTV driver, and this behavior reminds me of what I saw there at times during development (it would be stable on UP
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systems, lock like this on SMP systems). I have been peeking around in the code some to get familiar with it, but of course may take some time for me to start grasping what is going on to be able to contribute any help myself. So this is just what I'm thinking, since freezes like this often seem to be something wrong in the interrupt handler for SMP/preemption configured systems. If you are using SMP, maybe trying it with just one processor enabled would be a good test to see if this is really true there too.
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Hil Chris,
This is correct. Its a SMP system with HT. So I think your assumption is right. It must be in that direction.
I will try to test it with one CPU disabled.
I will report back.
I have tested with 1 CPU disabled. Running now for about 2 hours without hangups (I have several connection drops, but it will reconnect).
I have also tested with 2 CPU's and HT-disabled (noht parameter) but that had no effect.
So SMP looks like the cause of the problem here.
I will be happy to do further testing.
gr,
Willem
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Hi guys.
After quite some time has passed since my last message, i have pulled wireless drivers from web site several times, still same problem, refresh of drivers didn't seem to affect the problem at all. I am lost, since you don't seem to take it seriously, but it hangs machine! Can someone give me an advice what I can do in order to help you to troubleshoot the issue?
I am not a programmer, but looks like a memory leak somewhere. If you give clear understandable instructions - I am glad to follow them! Regards
I am facing the same problems. Kernel hangups without any oops or log-trace. Sometimes it freezes directly after hostapd (0.6.6) is loading. But once running hostapd I can connect with one station to the AP (AR5416). A second station can be added but sometimes it causes a hangup.
For what I can see the problems may also have to do with the total number of sessions to the AP or the number of sessions setup in a short time.
If I for example start my notebook and connect to the AP all is (mostly) ok. I can start a browser. But if I start Kmail with 6 mailboxes it hangs within a second.
I am desperate looking for a solution.....
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Hi guys.
After quite some time has passed since my last message, i have pulled wireless drivers from web site several times, still same problem, refresh of drivers didn't seem to affect the problem at all. I am lost, since you don't seem to take it seriously, but it hangs machine! Can someone give me an advice what I can do in order to help you to troubleshoot the issue?
I am not a programmer, but looks like a memory leak somewhere. If you give clear understandable instructions - I am glad to follow them! Regards
I am facing the same problems. Kernel hangups without any oops or log-trace. Sometimes it freezes directly after hostapd (0.6.6) is loading. But once running hostapd I can connect with one station to the AP (AR5416). A second station can be added but sometimes it causes a hangup.
For what I can see the problems may also have to do with the total number of sessions to the AP or the number of sessions setup in a short time.
If I for example start my notebook and connect to the AP all is (mostly) ok. I can start a browser. But if I start Kmail with 6 mailboxes it hangs within a second.
I am desperate looking for a solution.....
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