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DISCUSSION Sebastian Mancke 2 participants 3 messages May 13, 2009 – May 14, 2009

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Hi,

I just saw the new project and was wondering why there is a completely new project for this purpose.

For me, ofone looks very similar to the freesmartphone.org initiative. Did you take a deep look into other existing projects? What are your opinions not to join those efforts?

In the case of freesmartphone.org I appreciate the goal of focusing on the design of the DBus APIs, instead of 'just' an implementation. It would be really cool to get alternative Implementations (e.g. written in
C) for those APIs. On the other hand it would be too bad not to regard the experiences they made.

Regards,
Sebastian

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Hi Sebastian,

Quoted 8 lines · On Wednesday 13 May 2009 10:17:50 Sebastian Mancke wrote:

Hi,

I just saw the new project and was wondering why there is a completely new project for this purpose.

For me, ofone looks very similar to the freesmartphone.org initiative. Did you take a deep look into other existing projects? What are your opinions not to join those efforts?

We had a very deep look actually, and not only freesmartphone, but also Qtopia. These projects are very similar to oFono on the surface, but their APIs just do not fill our needs. E.g. to have a telephony stack that is GCF- certification ready and can be used by UI developers with minimal effort on their part.

In the case of Qtopia it carries too much legacy baggage. In the case of FSO:
any API that exposes such low-level details as SMS DCS will never be good enough. UI developers simply should never have to care.

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In the case of freesmartphone.org I appreciate the goal of focusing on the design of the DBus APIs, instead of 'just' an implementation. It would be really cool to get alternative Implementations (e.g. written in
C) for those APIs. On the other hand it would be too bad not to regard the experiences they made.

You're assuming that oFono developers do not have previous telephony experience themselves. Not a fair assumption at all ;) We have our own ideas and as pointed out above, we did learn from the FSO project.

Regards,
-Denis

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Hi Denis,

thanks for the direct answer. I don't wanted to be unfair at all ;-)

I Will take a deeper look into the differences of both DBus APIs to get a better understanding of your reasons.

Regards,
Sebastian

Quoted 39 lines · Denis Kenzior

Hi Sebastian,

Quoted 8 lines · On Wednesday 13 May 2009 10:17:50 Sebastian Mancke wrote:

Hi,

I just saw the new project and was wondering why there is a completely new project for this purpose.

For me, ofone looks very similar to the freesmartphone.org initiative. Did you take a deep look into other existing projects? What are your opinions not to join those efforts?

We had a very deep look actually, and not only freesmartphone, but also Qtopia. These projects are very similar to oFono on the surface, but their APIs just do not fill our needs. E.g. to have a telephony stack that is GCF- certification ready and can be used by UI developers with minimal effort on their part.

In the case of Qtopia it carries too much legacy baggage. In the case of FSO:
any API that exposes such low-level details as SMS DCS will never be good enough. UI developers simply should never have to care.

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In the case of freesmartphone.org I appreciate the goal of focusing on the design of the DBus APIs, instead of 'just' an implementation. It would be really cool to get alternative Implementations (e.g. written in
C) for those APIs. On the other hand it would be too bad not to regard the experiences they made.

You're assuming that oFono developers do not have previous telephony experience themselves. Not a fair assumption at all ;) We have our own ideas and as pointed out above, we did learn from the FSO project.

Regards,
-Denis
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