New: The ibmcam driver is not working
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Quoted 24 lines · On Tue, 25 May 2010 23:02:23 GMT [email protected] wrote:
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16050
URL: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=588900 Summary: The ibmcam driver is not working Product: Drivers Version: 2.5 Kernel Version: 2.6.34 Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Tree: Mainline Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P1 Component: USB AssignedTo: [email protected] ReportedBy: [email protected] Regression: YesThis driver has been working, and around the 1st of May I updated my Fedora kernel (FC13-RC) to current. The camera stopped working, so I built the latest 2.6.34-rc version and verified the problem. When 2.6.34 final released I repeated the test and the driver is still not working.
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Originally reported against Fedora (not going to be fixed in FC13) the information in the Fedora report may be enough to identify the problem. I can do a bit of test almost any day, but the cams are on a video monitoring system, so I'm not able to do long bisects and such.
It's a 2.6.33 -> 2.6.34 regression, I think. I don't know whether it's a v4l problem or a USB one..
Quoted 38 lines · Andrew Morton
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Quoted 24 lines · On Tue, 25 May 2010 23:02:23 GMT [email protected] wrote:
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16050
URL: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=588900 Summary: The ibmcam driver is not working Product: Drivers Version: 2.5 Kernel Version: 2.6.34 Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Tree: Mainline Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P1 Component: USB AssignedTo: [email protected] ReportedBy: [email protected] Regression: YesThis driver has been working, and around the 1st of May I updated my Fedora kernel (FC13-RC) to current. The camera stopped working, so I built the latest 2.6.34-rc version and verified the problem. When 2.6.34 final released I repeated the test and the driver is still not working.
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Originally reported against Fedora (not going to be fixed in FC13) the information in the Fedora report may be enough to identify the problem. I can do a bit of test almost any day, but the cams are on a video monitoring system, so I'm not able to do long bisects and such.
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It's a 2.6.33 -> 2.6.34 regression, I think. I don't know whether it's a v4l problem or a USB one..
Sounds right, there's quite a bit of version information in the redhat BZ entry I noted, and I thought it was a Fedora issue at first. Then when Fedora support said it wasn't going to be fixed for FC13 I tried the kernel.org source instead. There are some initial comments from [email protected] saying there were patches in git to make it work with fswebcam (don't use it), but it doesn't seem to with cheese, motion, or xawtv, so I'm unsure how "fixed" it is.
I'm ready to try stable releases as they come out, or git releases if need be. I have issues getting time on build machine or time of video server to do bisect, unfortunately. I looked at the patches all the way back to 2.6.27, and ibmcam looks inert, so the changes in v4l would be my first guess. Sorry I can't do more.
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Quoted 38 lines · Andrew Morton
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Quoted 24 lines · On Tue, 25 May 2010 23:02:23 GMT [email protected] wrote:
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16050
URL: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=588900 Summary: The ibmcam driver is not working Product: Drivers Version: 2.5 Kernel Version: 2.6.34 Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Tree: Mainline Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P1 Component: USB AssignedTo: [email protected] ReportedBy: [email protected] Regression: YesThis driver has been working, and around the 1st of May I updated my Fedora kernel (FC13-RC) to current. The camera stopped working, so I built the latest 2.6.34-rc version and verified the problem. When 2.6.34 final released I repeated the test and the driver is still not working.
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Originally reported against Fedora (not going to be fixed in FC13) the information in the Fedora report may be enough to identify the problem. I can do a bit of test almost any day, but the cams are on a video monitoring system, so I'm not able to do long bisects and such.
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It's a 2.6.33 -> 2.6.34 regression, I think. I don't know whether it's a v4l problem or a USB one..
I noted this problem in Fedora kernels:
2.6.33.2-41.fc13.x86_64 - worked
2.6.33.2-57.fc13.x86_64 - fails
The first was on my video server 4/21 when I left for a trip to the midwest, and worked perfectly with the "motion" app for the entire ten days. When I installed the current update on 5/2 or so it stopped working. I did go back and boot the older kernel and it still works, not some bizarre hardware thing.
After boot I have /dev/video0 as the ibmcam, but after first attempted use the device is gone. Since it worked in older kernels I rebooted and tried running it in an older VM (fc9) using USB passthru to KVM. That also didn't work. Does that tell anyone more than it tells me?
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Bill Davidsen <[email protected]> "We can't solve today's problems by using the same thinking we used in creating them." - Einstein
Hi,
Quoted 31 lines · Andrew Morton
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Quoted 24 lines · On Tue, 25 May 2010 23:02:23 GMT [email protected] wrote:
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16050
URL: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=588900 Summary: The ibmcam driver is not working Product: Drivers Version: 2.5 Kernel Version: 2.6.34 Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Tree: Mainline Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P1 Component: USB AssignedTo: [email protected] ReportedBy: [email protected] Regression: YesThis driver has been working, and around the 1st of May I updated my Fedora kernel (FC13-RC) to current. The camera stopped working, so I built the latest 2.6.34-rc version and verified the problem. When 2.6.34 final released I repeated the test and the driver is still not working.
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Originally reported against Fedora (not going to be fixed in FC13) the information in the Fedora report may be enough to identify the problem. I can do a bit of test almost any day, but the cams are on a video monitoring system, so I'm not able to do long bisects and such.
It's a 2.6.33 -> 2.6.34 regression, I think. I don't know whether it's a v4l problem or a USB one..
It may very well be a regression, I don't know. But in general the usbvideo drivers (of which the ibmcam is one) have been unmaintained for a long while, and they are still v4l1 drivers. I've been slowly working on converting all old v4l1 usb webcam drivers to the gspca usb webcam driver framework, removing a lot of code duplication (and other cruft such as controls being controlled through module parameters) from these drivers and making them v4l2 drivers in the progress.
I really bough 2 ibmcam driver using webcams in the US and had them shipped to the Netherlands esp. for this purpose. I hope to have a new gspca subdriver to replace ibmcam soon.
I know this is not really a fix for the problems with the existing ibmcam driver, but as it is destined to be replaced soon anyways I think this is the best way forward.
Regards,
Hans
Quoted 51 lines · Hans de Goede
Hi,
Quoted 31 lines · Andrew Morton
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Quoted 24 lines · On Tue, 25 May 2010 23:02:23 GMT [email protected] wrote:
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16050
URL: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=588900 Summary: The ibmcam driver is not working Product: Drivers Version: 2.5 Kernel Version: 2.6.34 Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Tree: Mainline Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P1 Component: USB AssignedTo: [email protected] ReportedBy: [email protected] Regression: YesThis driver has been working, and around the 1st of May I updated my Fedora kernel (FC13-RC) to current. The camera stopped working, so I built the latest 2.6.34-rc version and verified the problem. When 2.6.34 final released I repeated the test and the driver is still not working.
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Originally reported against Fedora (not going to be fixed in FC13) the information in the Fedora report may be enough to identify the problem. I can do a bit of test almost any day, but the cams are on a video monitoring system, so I'm not able to do long bisects and such.
It's a 2.6.33 -> 2.6.34 regression, I think. I don't know whether it's a v4l problem or a USB one..
It may very well be a regression, I don't know. But in general the usbvideo drivers (of which the ibmcam is one) have been unmaintained for a long while, and they are still v4l1 drivers. I've been slowly working on converting all old v4l1 usb webcam drivers to the gspca usb webcam driver framework, removing a lot of code duplication (and other cruft such as controls being controlled through module parameters) from these drivers and making them v4l2 drivers in the progress.
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I really bough 2 ibmcam driver using webcams in the US and had them shipped to the Netherlands esp. for this purpose. I hope to have a new gspca subdriver to replace ibmcam soon.
I know this is not really a fix for the problems with the existing ibmcam driver, but as it is destined to be replaced soon anyways I think this is the best way forward.
I tried the 2.6.34-11.fc13.x86_64 kernel, and the cameras "sort of" work again, I had to change the size being used in the motion.conf file to match what I found in the messages log, then I get imaging again, but the kernel has multiple OOPS issues, which I have sent off to the kerneloops folks. I don't feel comfortable using that kernel, even if it doesn't actually die (or hasn't yet).
In case you don't have this information, here is a line from lsusb:
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0545:8080 Xirlink, Inc. IBM C-It Webcam
Hopefully the items you have ordered are the same model.
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Bill Davidsen <[email protected]> "We can't solve today's problems by using the same thinking we used in creating them." - Einstein
Hi,
Quoted 7 lines · Bill Davidsen
Hans de Goede wrote:
In case you don't have this information, here is a line from lsusb:
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0545:8080 Xirlink, Inc. IBM C-It WebcamHopefully the items you have ordered are the same model.
I have the same usb-id, but I'm working on the driver now and it seems XirLink distinguishes between different models by bcdversion, instead of using different usb ids for each product.
Can you send me a mail with the output of "lsusb -v", then I can see if you have the same version as I have for testing.
Regards,
Hans
Quoted 11 lines · Hans de Goede
Hi,
Quoted 7 lines · Bill Davidsen
Hans de Goede wrote:
In case you don't have this information, here is a line from lsusb:
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0545:8080 Xirlink, Inc. IBM C-It WebcamHopefully the items you have ordered are the same model.
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I have the same usb-id, but I'm working on the driver now and it seems XirLink distinguishes between different models by bcdversion, instead of using different usb ids for each product.
Can you send me a mail with the output of "lsusb -v", then I can see if you have the same version as I have for testing.
Sure, attached.
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Bill Davidsen <[email protected]> "We can't solve today's problems by using the same thinking we used in creating them." - Einstein
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Hi,
Quoted 16 lines · Bill Davidsen
Quoted 15 lines · Hans de Goede
Hi,
Quoted 7 lines · Bill Davidsen
Hans de Goede wrote:
In case you don't have this information, here is a line from lsusb:
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0545:8080 Xirlink, Inc. IBM C-It WebcamHopefully the items you have ordered are the same model.
I have the same usb-id, but I'm working on the driver now and it seems XirLink distinguishes between different models by bcdversion, instead of using different usb ids for each product.
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Can you send me a mail with the output of "lsusb -v", then I can see if you have the same version as I have for testing.
Sure, attached.
Thx,
Your device has a revision of 3.0a (the firmware programmers did not seem to fully grasp the concept of the d in bcd (it stands for decimal), which is different from mine which is revision 3.01 . Your version is referred to as a model2 by the old driver, where as mine is a model3.
This is both bad and good news, the bad news is I cannot give you an already tested driver to fix your issues. The good news is, that this means that, assuming that you are willing to help out with testing, we can now also verify that model 2 cams will work with the new driver.
So would you be willing to test the new driver (when it is finished) ?
Regards,
Hans
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Hans de Goede wrote:
In case you don't have this information, here is a line from lsusb:
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0545:8080 Xirlink, Inc. IBM C-It WebcamHopefully the items you have ordered are the same model.
I have the same usb-id, but I'm working on the driver now and it seems XirLink distinguishes between different models by bcdversion, instead of using different usb ids for each product.
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Can you send me a mail with the output of "lsusb -v", then I can see if you have the same version as I have for testing.
Sure, attached.
Thx,
Your device has a revision of 3.0a (the firmware programmers did not seem to fully grasp the concept of the d in bcd (it stands for decimal), which is different from mine which is revision 3.01 . Your version is referred to as a model2 by the old driver, where as mine is a model3.
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This is both bad and good news, the bad news is I cannot give you an already tested driver to fix your issues. The good news is, that this means that, assuming that you are willing to help out with testing, we can now also verify that model 2 cams will work with the new driver.
So would you be willing to test the new driver (when it is finished) ?
Sure, just let me know what kernel the patch is against. As you say, my cams are Model2 in the old nomenclature.
Interesting that the size is set to 352x240 rather than CIF 352x288. And while xawtv sort of works with the latest 2.6.33.5-112.fc13.x86_64 koji kernel, cheese doesn't, not that I need it, but it worked on the early kernels.
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So would you be willing to test the new driver (when it is finished) ?
Sure, just let me know what kernel the patch is against. As you say, my cams are Model2 in the old nomenclature.
Interesting that the size is set to 352x240 rather than CIF 352x288. And while xawtv sort of works with the latest 2.6.33.5-112.fc13.x86_64 koji kernel, cheese doesn't, not that I need it, but it worked on the early kernels.
Ok, I've a version of the new driver ready for testing.
To test you need the latest libv4l, and my gspca tree:
First update libv4l, do:
git clone git://linuxtv.org/v4l-utils.git
cd v4l-utils/lib
And then follow the instructions here:
http://hansdegoede.livejournal.com/7622.html
Then get my gspca tree, and compile and install it, note that this is based on the special hg v4l-dvb tree, which is meant as an overlay to your running kernel, so doing this will replace the v4l and dvb subsystems of your kernel while leaving the rest as is:
hg clone http://linuxtv.org/hg/~hgoede/ibmcam
cd ibmcam
make menuconfig
<deselect the ibmcam driver and make any other changes you wish> make
sudo make install
<reboot, yes really>
Now after the reboot do the following as root:
echo 63 > /sys/module/gspca_main/parameters/debug
And then try using your camera with a v4l app such as cheese, camorama or some such.
Please collect the output of dmesg and mail it to me.
Also please try running at a resolution of 176x144.
If things don't work (chances are they won't) please try to describe what exactly is the problem. ie is the image shifted left / right / up / down with some garbage or black area being shown on the other side, is there no image at all is it to dark / light, are the colors wrong etc.
Thanks & Regards,
Hans