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IIO: angular measurement types.

DISCUSSION Jonathan Cameron 2 participants 3 messages Sep 29, 2011 IIO

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Hi All

Just looking at add chan spec support for resolvers and realised that our representations of angular measurements have become somewhat confused.

Right now we have

IIO_GYRO -> angular velocity (units radians / sec)
IIO_ROT -> vertical rotation position (undocumented)
IIO_ANGL -> rotation angle (currently integrated version of IIO_GYRO, undocumented)

For resolvers we seem to need

Absolute rotation position (IIO_ANGL?) set units to radians Angular velocity (IIO_GYRO? - odd naming here) randians / sec

So, proposal is to rename IIO_GYRO - > IIO_ANGL_VEL

Anyone have an thoughts on this?

Jonathan

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Am Donnerstag, 29. September 2011, 15:13:44 schrieb Jonathan Cameron:

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Hi All

Just looking at add chan spec support for resolvers and realised that our representations of angular measurements have become somewhat confused.

Right now we have

IIO_GYRO -> angular velocity (units radians / sec)
IIO_ROT -> vertical rotation position (undocumented) IIO_ANGL -> rotation angle (currently integrated version of IIO_GYRO, undocumented)

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For resolvers we seem to need

Absolute rotation position (IIO_ANGL?) set units to radians Angular velocity (IIO_GYRO? - odd naming here) randians / sec

So, proposal is to rename IIO_GYRO - > IIO_ANGL_VEL

Anyone have an thoughts on this?

The question is whether we want to have names according to the physical propery we measure or names according to the common terminology of the devices that measure that property.

i.e. gyros measure angular velocities. Are there other devices that measure angular velocities? I think not.

Devices that measure horizontal rotation are usually called inclinometers. Devices that measure vertical rotation are for example compasses, but there could be others.
Devices that measure rotation angles are usually called resolvers, but this might also be non exclusive.

Do we want to distinguish between these? They all return angles.

And what about sensors that measure rotations? They can deliver angles outside [-PI:+PI] (i.e. several rotations), but that makes no sense for compasses.

Nevertheless I think we can keep IIO_GYRO for devices that measure angular velocities, as this is a very common name for these.

Regards,
Manuel

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Am Donnerstag, 29. September 2011, 15:13:44 schrieb Jonathan Cameron:

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Hi All

Just looking at add chan spec support for resolvers and realised that our representations of angular measurements have become somewhat confused.

Right now we have

IIO_GYRO -> angular velocity (units radians / sec)
IIO_ROT -> vertical rotation position (undocumented) IIO_ANGL -> rotation angle (currently integrated version of IIO_GYRO, undocumented)

For resolvers we seem to need

Absolute rotation position (IIO_ANGL?) set units to radians Angular velocity (IIO_GYRO? - odd naming here) randians / sec

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So, proposal is to rename IIO_GYRO - > IIO_ANGL_VEL

Anyone have an thoughts on this?

The question is whether we want to have names according to the physical propery we measure or names according to the common terminology of the devices that measure that property.

What they measure. It is true for every other type (IIRC)

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i.e. gyros measure angular velocities. Are there other devices that measure angular velocities? I think not.

resolvers. There is a reason I was looking at this ;) Can technically be done with accelerometers in a number of locations or an accelerometer / magnetometer pair.

Also, the term gyroscope may mean a device for measuring absolute rotation or rotational velocity. I've heard some argue that the term is completely missused for mems devices...

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Devices that measure horizontal rotation are usually called inclinometers.

But they measure inclination so that one is fine.

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Devices that measure vertical rotation are for example compasses, but there could be others.

Devices that measure rotation angles are usually called resolvers, but this might also be non exclusive.

Also measure angular velocity (or at least the ad2s1200 does).

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Do we want to distinguish between these? They all return angles.

Nope. That's my argument.

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And what about sensors that measure rotations? They can deliver angles outside [-PI:+PI] (i.e. several rotations), but that makes no sense for compasses.

It does if you have sufficient tracking to know it happened. Still I agree it doesn't make sense when using them for navigation. We probably don't need to worry about it though. Any userspace app should trivially be able to correct wrap around if it expects the device to be used as a compass.

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Nevertheless I think we can keep IIO_GYRO for devices that measure angular velocities, as this is a very common name for these.

I'd agree except that it makes things inconsistent. We already have one definitely non gyroscope user. Right now the change is trivial. We can't really do it later.

Jonathan