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PATCH 1/1 Feature removal due to lack of custodians

Despite several calls nobody volunteered to help out.

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+What:	USB Support
+When:	v2012.06
+Why:	Lack of a custodian, and lack of time and/or sponsors.
+Who:	Wolfgang Denk <[email protected]>
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+What:	Network Support
+When:	v2012.09
+Why:	Lack of a custodian, and lack of time and/or sponsors.
+Who:	Wolfgang Denk <[email protected]>
+
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 What:	Users of the legacy miiphy_* code
 When:	undetermined
 
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PATCH 1/1 Feature removal due to lack of custodians

Hi Wolfgang,

Le 25/02/2012 23:10, Wolfgang Denk a ?crit :

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Despite several calls nobody volunteered to help out.

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+What:	USB Support
+When:	v2012.06
+Why:	Lack of a custodian, and lack of time and/or sponsors.
+Who:	Wolfgang Denk<[email protected]>

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+What:	Network Support
+When:	v2012.09
+Why:	Lack of a custodian, and lack of time and/or sponsors.
+Who:	Wolfgang Denk<[email protected]>
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What do you mean with 'removal' of 'USB support' and 'network support'? Do you intend that U-Boot 2012.06 be stripped of its USB code and 2012.09 of its network code?

Amicalement,

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Albert.
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PATCH 1/1 Feature removal due to lack of custodians

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Hi Wolfgang,

Le 25/02/2012 23:10, Wolfgang Denk a ?crit :

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Despite several calls nobody volunteered to help out.

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+What:	USB Support
+When:	v2012.06
+Why:	Lack of a custodian, and lack of time and/or sponsors.
+Who:	Wolfgang Denk<[email protected]>
+
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+What:	Network Support
+When:	v2012.09
+Why:	Lack of a custodian, and lack of time and/or sponsors.
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+Who:	Wolfgang Denk<[email protected]>
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What do you mean with 'removal' of 'USB support' and 'network support'? Do you intend that U-Boot 2012.06 be stripped of its USB code and 2012.09 of its network code?

I can't speak for WD, but noone really maintains that code, what else do you expect to do with it? USB support is literally trash.

M

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PATCH 1/1 Feature removal due to lack of custodians

Hi Marek,

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What do you mean with 'removal' of 'USB support' and 'network support'? Do you intend that U-Boot 2012.06 be stripped of its USB code and 2012.09 of its network code?

I can't speak for WD, but noone really maintains that code, what else do you expect to do with it? USB support is literally trash.

At least I would expect that the code be frozen (patches declined but existing code kept), not removed.

As far as I am concerned, network and to a lesser extent USB (YMMV, of course) are very useful features and dropping them would be a great loss for U-Boot.

Plus, I am currently working on code that relates to Ethernet. :)

Amicalement,

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Albert.
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Dear Albert ARIBAUD,

Quoted 6 lines · In message <[email protected]> you wrote:
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I can't speak for WD, but noone really maintains that code, what else do you expect to do with it? USB support is literally trash.

At least I would expect that the code be frozen (patches declined but existing code kept), not removed.

Freezing code paves the ground for bit rot. We would end up with the same decision just one release later when the bugs start poping up.

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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DENX Software Engineering GmbH,     MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel
HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd at denx.de
Whom the gods would destroy, they first teach BASIC.
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PATCH 1/1 Feature removal due to lack of custodians

In reply to Albert ARIBAUD

Dear Albert ARIBAUD,

Quoted 4 lines · In message <[email protected]> you wrote:

What do you mean with 'removal' of 'USB support' and 'network support'? Do you intend that U-Boot 2012.06 be stripped of its USB code and 2012.09 of its network code?

Yes.

What else can we do if there is nobody to maintain that code?

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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DENX Software Engineering GmbH,     MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel
HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd at denx.de
As in certain cults it is possible to kill a process if you know  its
true name.                      -- Ken Thompson and Dennis M. Ritchie
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PATCH 1/1 Feature removal due to lack of custodians

In reply to Wolfgang Denk

Hi Wolfgang,

Quoted 16 lines · Wolfgang Denk

Despite several calls nobody volunteered to help out.

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+What: ?USB Support

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+When: ?v2012.06
+Why: ? Lack of a custodian, and lack of time and/or sponsors.
+Who: ? Wolfgang Denk <[email protected]>
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+What: ?Network Support
+When: ?v2012.09
+Why: ? Lack of a custodian, and lack of time and/or sponsors.
+Who: ? Wolfgang Denk <[email protected]>

I might be able to help out with the network side. I am unsure of the qualifications needed to be a custodian though.

Regards,
Simon

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?What: ?Users of the legacy miiphy_* code
?When: ?undetermined

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PATCH 1/1 Feature removal due to lack of custodians

In reply to Wolfgang Denk

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Quoted 3 lines · On Saturday 25 February 2012 17:10:31 Wolfgang Denk wrote:
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+What:	Network Support
+When:	v2012.09
+Why:	Lack of a custodian, and lack of time and/or sponsors.

i've been pondering whether to help out here for a month or two. i know you're not entirely serious wrt removal, but i guess i can try being the net guy for now and see how it works out. i've done enough grubbing in the drivers/net/ and net/ code at this point to understand it. then it's "just" a matter of time.
-mike
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