New su utility messes with my PATH
I found what I think is absolutely unexpected behaviour in the new su utility. It seems to have been introduced by commit a6fdd3f8.
It is about /sbin and /usr/sbin being in the path: Whenever you switch to a non-root user, they are removed from the path, and when you switch to root, they are added. I find it completely unexpected that su (when not running with -l) messes with my environment at all.
Commands like
PATH=... su -c "cmd" user
do not work as expected.
In my opinion, when you wish your path (or anything in the environment) to change you should a) use -l to start a login shell or b) configure your scripts to take care of it.
I propose to revert the mentioned patch. Opinions?
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I found what I think is absolutely unexpected behaviour in the new su utility. It seems to have been introduced by commit
a6fdd3f8.It is about /sbin and
/usr/sbinbeing in the path: Whenever you switch to a non-root user, they are removed from the path, and when you switch to root, they are added. I find it completely unexpected that su (when not running with -l) messes with my environment at all.Commands like
PATH=... su -c "cmd" user
do not work as expected.
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In my opinion, when you wish your path (or anything in the environment) to change you should a) use -l to start a login shell or b) configure your scripts to take care of it.
I propose to revert the mentioned patch. Opinions?
Ouch, I agree.
su shouldn't be messing with PATH at all IMHO.
cheers,
Pádraig.
Karel Zak
maintainerQuoted 13 lines · Pádraig Brady
Quoted 12 lines · Thomas Bächler
I found what I think is absolutely unexpected behaviour in the new su utility. It seems to have been introduced by commit
a6fdd3f8.It is about /sbin and
/usr/sbinbeing in the path: Whenever you switch to a non-root user, they are removed from the path, and when you switch to root, they are added. I find it completely unexpected that su (when not running with -l) messes with my environment at all.Commands like
PATH=... su -c "cmd" user
do not work as expected.
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In my opinion, when you wish your path (or anything in the environment) to change you should a) use -l to start a login shell or b) configure your scripts to take care of it.
I propose to revert the mentioned patch. Opinions?
Ouch, I agree.
su shouldn't be messing with PATH at all IMHO.
It's Suse patch, I guess there is/was any reason for the patch
commit a6fdd3f8125be23930d955c2bc6b7a46cdaf8a12
Author: Werner Fink <[email protected]>
Date: Tue Aug 17 09:09:55 2010 +0200
make sure /sbin resp /usr/sbin are in PATH
Werner, Ludwig? What about to revert the patch?
Karel
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Karel Zak <[email protected]> http://karelzak.blogspot.com
Quoted 14 lines · Karel Zak
Quoted 13 lines · Pádraig Brady
Quoted 12 lines · Thomas Bächler
I found what I think is absolutely unexpected behaviour in the new su utility. It seems to have been introduced by commit
a6fdd3f8.It is about /sbin and
/usr/sbinbeing in the path: Whenever you switch to a non-root user, they are removed from the path, and when you switch to root, they are added. I find it completely unexpected that su (when not running with -l) messes with my environment at all.Commands like
PATH=... su -c "cmd" user
do not work as expected.
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In my opinion, when you wish your path (or anything in the environment) to change you should a) use -l to start a login shell or b) configure your scripts to take care of it.
I propose to revert the mentioned patch. Opinions?
Ouch, I agree.
su shouldn't be messing with PATH at all IMHO.
Well, su is such a mess that you better not make any assumptions about it. Avoid su if you can.
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It's Suse patch, I guess there is/was any reason for the patch
commit
a6fdd3f8125be23930d955c2bc6b7a46cdaf8a12
Author: Werner Fink <[email protected]>
Date: Tue Aug 17 09:09:55 2010 +0200make sure /sbin resp
/usr/sbinare in PATHWerner, Ludwig? What about to revert the patch?
Personally I don't really mind. I don't know the background of the patch though. IMO using 'su' instead of 'su -' is broken anyways so making the former less convenient may help teaching people to use 'su -' instead.
cu
Ludwig
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(o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.de/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg)
Karel Zak
maintainerQuoted 8 lines · Karel Zak
commit
a6fdd3f8125be23930d955c2bc6b7a46cdaf8a12
Author: Werner Fink <[email protected]>
Date: Tue Aug 17 09:09:55 2010 +0200make sure /sbin resp
/usr/sbinare in PATHWerner, Ludwig? What about to revert the patch?
Reverted.
Karel
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Karel Zak <[email protected]> http://karelzak.blogspot.com
Am 02.10.2012 10:17, schrieb Karel Zak:
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commit a6fdd3f8125be23930d955c2bc6b7a46cdaf8a12 Author: Werner Fink <[email protected]> Date: Tue Aug 17 09:09:55 2010 +0200
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make sure /sbin resp
/usr/sbinare in PATHWerner, Ludwig? What about to revert the patch?
Reverted.
Karel
Thank you, much appreciated.