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Any way to allow setuid daemon to access krb5 automounted nfs directories?

DISCUSSION Orion Poplawski 3 participants 5 messages Sep 25, 2012 – Sep 26, 2012

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Is there any way to allow setuid daemon to access krb5 automounted nfs directories? Specifically I'm looking to run spamassassin's spamd on a remote server and access user's home directories via krb5 nfs4. spamd changes user to the user receiving the email being processes and needs to modify files in the user's home directory. Is there any reasonably secure way to give this daemon the ability to do this? Any way to tell rpc.gssd to use a specific credential cache for this type of access rather than the default for that effective uid?

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Orion Poplawski
Technical Manager                     303-415-9701 x222
NWRA, Boulder Office                  FAX: 303-415-9702
3380 Mitchell Lane                       [email protected]
Boulder, CO 80301                   http://www.nwra.com
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Orion Poplawski wrote:

Is there any way to allow setuid daemon to access krb5 automounted nfs directories? Specifically I'm looking to run spamassassin's spamd on a remote server and access user's home directories via krb5 nfs4. spamd changes user to the user receiving the email being processes and needs to modify files in the user's home directory. Is there any reasonably secure way to give this daemon the ability to do this? Any way to tell rpc.gssd to use a specific credential cache for this type of access rather than the default for that effective uid?

You don't want to give spamd the user's credentials. You want to acl the user's files so that spamd can do what it wants. Spamd will need its own krb5 principal.

But I hope you're not planning to deliver mail over nfs. I think that would be a mistake.

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Orion Poplawski wrote:

Is there any way to allow setuid daemon to access krb5 automounted nfs directories? Specifically I'm looking to run spamassassin's spamd on a remote server and access user's home directories via krb5 nfs4. spamd changes user to the user receiving the email being processes and needs to modify files in the user's home directory. Is there any reasonably secure way to give this daemon the ability to do this? Any way to tell rpc.gssd to use a specific credential cache for this type of access rather than the default for that effective uid?

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You don't want to give spamd the user's credentials. You want to acl the user's files so that spamd can do what it wants. Spamd will need its own krb5 principal.

Hmm, okay, I may be able to run spamd in non-setuid mode and get it to work. Thanks.

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But I hope you're not planning to deliver mail over nfs. I think that would be a mistake.

Oh no, but my mail host at the moment is woefully under-powered so I've moved spam scanning off of it.

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Orion Poplawski
Technical Manager                     303-415-9701 x222
NWRA, Boulder Office                  FAX: 303-415-9702
3380 Mitchell Lane                       [email protected]
Boulder, CO 80301                   http://www.nwra.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:linux-nfs- [email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Rees
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 1:50 PM
To: Orion Poplawski
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Any way to allow setuid daemon to access krb5 automounted nfs directories?

But I hope you're not planning to deliver mail over nfs. I think that would be a mistake.

What's wrong with that? Delivering and serving up email is a fairly common use-case for NFS.

Trond

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:linux-nfs- [email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Rees
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 1:50 PM
To: Orion Poplawski
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Any way to allow setuid daemon to access krb5 automounted nfs directories?

But I hope you're not planning to deliver mail over nfs. I think that would be a mistake.

What's wrong with that? Delivering and serving up email is a fairly common use-case for NFS.

Nothing against spamd or NFS in particular. It's just that some mailers assume the file system is a local disk and are not prepared for the kinds of failures you can get over a network.