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DISCUSSION AJ Guillon 4 participants 16 messages Jan 15, 2014 – Jan 20, 2014 HID

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Hi everyone,

I bought a Cirque Glidepoint (Model GP415U-5321) that I would like to use with Linux. I haven't hacked on the kernel before, but I'm happy to test and modify alps.c as required to get this device working.

I downloaded alps-reg-dump from
git://kernel.ubuntu.com/sforshee/alps-reg-dump.git and it reports:

Found serio mouse at /sys/bus/serio/devices/serio1/ Invalid ack byte 0xfe after command
Invalid ack byte 0xfe after command
E6 report failed, not an ALPS touchpad

The PCI ID of the device is: 0488:0282

I'm not sure if there is anything else I should try. I am currently running Ubuntu 12.04 with kernel 3.2.0-29-generic.

AJ

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Hi AJ,

This is Tommy from ALPS. From the PCI ID you attached, it looks like an external USB touchpad (?)
If so, modify alps.c may not let touchpad work since its only for PS/2 device.

I'm sorry although I work in ALPS, I'm not so familar with the products made by Cirque.
However, I'll try to ask our Cirque's colleagues if they have schedule to support their products for Linux mainstring.
Thanks !

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Best Regards,
Tommy

2014/1/16 AJ Guillon <[email protected]>:
Quoted 24 lines

Hi everyone,

I bought a Cirque Glidepoint (Model GP415U-5321) that I would like to use with Linux. I haven't hacked on the kernel before, but I'm happy to test and modify alps.c as required to get this device working.

I downloaded alps-reg-dump from
git://kernel.ubuntu.com/sforshee/alps-reg-dump.git and it reports:

Found serio mouse at /sys/bus/serio/devices/serio1/ Invalid ack byte 0xfe after command
Invalid ack byte 0xfe after command
E6 report failed, not an ALPS touchpad

The PCI ID of the device is: 0488:0282

I'm not sure if there is anything else I should try. I am currently running Ubuntu 12.04 with kernel 3.2.0-29-generic.

AJ
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Hi Tommy,

Here is the touchpad I bought:
http://www.cirque.com/desktoptouchpad/productsandorders/smartcatpro.aspx
(the black USB one).

It works somewhat as a mouse, but isn't recognized as a touchpad.

If there is no chance for Linux support, I'll just return it and exchange for a brand that does support Linux. If there is something I can do to help it be supported, I'm happy to do so.

AJ

Quoted 12 lines · Tommy Will

Hi AJ,

This is Tommy from ALPS. From the PCI ID you attached, it looks like an external USB touchpad (?)
If so, modify alps.c may not let touchpad work since its only for PS/2 device.

I'm sorry although I work in ALPS, I'm not so familar with the products made by Cirque.
However, I'll try to ask our Cirque's colleagues if they have schedule to support their products for Linux mainstring.
Thanks !

#3 lore raw

Hi AJ,

Quoted 3 lines

Here is the touchpad I bought:
http://www.cirque.com/desktoptouchpad/productsandorders/smartcatpro.aspx
(the black USB one).

Thanks for your info.

Quoted 6 lines

It works somewhat as a mouse, but isn't recognized as a touchpad.

If there is no chance for Linux support, I'll just return it and exchange for a brand that does support Linux. If there is something I can do to help it be supported, I'm happy to do so.

First, so thanks for you'll be happy to try the patch if we can provide. However, I'm not
the manager of Cirque who can decide if we'll support the device. I have sent the request mail to my Cirque's colleague and please wait my feedback until
next week. Sorry for the inconvenience!

Thanks

Signature · 2 lines
Best Regards,
Tommy
Quoted 15 lines

AJ

Quoted 12 lines · Tommy Will

Hi AJ,

This is Tommy from ALPS. From the PCI ID you attached, it looks like an external USB touchpad (?)
If so, modify alps.c may not let touchpad work since its only for PS/2 device.

I'm sorry although I work in ALPS, I'm not so familar with the products made by Cirque.
However, I'll try to ask our Cirque's colleagues if they have schedule to support their products for Linux mainstring.
Thanks !

#4 lore raw

Hi AJ,

Sorry for reply late. I have got the positive reply from my Cirque's colleague and please allow me to introduce Vadim to you. He's now main for S/W development of Cirque's product and he would help you of your "Cirque Smart Cat Pro AG Touchpad".

Thanks

Signature · 4 lines
Best Regards,
Tommy

2014/1/18 Tommy Will <[email protected]>:
Quoted 42 lines

Hi AJ,

Quoted 3 lines

Here is the touchpad I bought:
http://www.cirque.com/desktoptouchpad/productsandorders/smartcatpro.aspx
(the black USB one).

Thanks for your info.

Quoted 6 lines

It works somewhat as a mouse, but isn't recognized as a touchpad.

If there is no chance for Linux support, I'll just return it and exchange for a brand that does support Linux. If there is something I can do to help it be supported, I'm happy to do so.

First, so thanks for you'll be happy to try the patch if we can provide. However, I'm not
the manager of Cirque who can decide if we'll support the device. I have sent the request mail to my Cirque's colleague and please wait my feedback until
next week. Sorry for the inconvenience!

Thanks
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Best Regards,
Tommy

Quoted 15 lines

AJ

Quoted 12 lines · Tommy Will

Hi AJ,

This is Tommy from ALPS. From the PCI ID you attached, it looks like an external USB touchpad (?)
If so, modify alps.c may not let touchpad work since its only for PS/2 device.

I'm sorry although I work in ALPS, I'm not so familar with the products made by Cirque.
However, I'll try to ask our Cirque's colleagues if they have schedule to support their products for Linux mainstring.
Thanks !

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Hi,

Thanks Tommy!

Vadim: Let me know what I can do to help.

AJ

Quoted 9 lines · Tommy Will

Hi AJ,

Sorry for reply late. I have got the positive reply from my Cirque's colleague and please allow me to introduce Vadim to you. He's now main for S/W development of Cirque's product and he would help you of your "Cirque Smart Cat Pro AG Touchpad".

Thanks

#6 lore raw

Hello AJ,

I thought it was I who was supposed to be helping. :-)

Can you please describe the problem?

Vadim

----- Original Message -----
From: "AJ Guillon" <[email protected]>
To: "Tommy Will" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: ALPS: Cirque Smart Cat Pro AG Touchpad Support

Hi,

Thanks Tommy!

Vadim: Let me know what I can do to help.

AJ

Quoted 9 lines · Tommy Will

Hi AJ,

Sorry for reply late. I have got the positive reply from my Cirque's colleague and please allow me to introduce Vadim to you. He's now main for S/W development of Cirque's product and he would help you of your "Cirque Smart Cat Pro AG Touchpad".

Thanks

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Hi Vadim,

I am currently on Kubuntu 12.04 (3.2.0-29-generic), and this device is not recognized as a touchpad. I have not yet tested a nightly build with a recent kernel to see if that works.

It is detected and works as a mouse right now, but my understanding is that if it is recognized as a touchpad I can do more interesting things with it ;-)

AJ

Quoted 36 lines · Vadim Klishko

Hello AJ,

I thought it was I who was supposed to be helping. :-)

Can you please describe the problem?

Vadim

----- Original Message -----
From: "AJ Guillon" <[email protected]>
To: "Tommy Will" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: ALPS: Cirque Smart Cat Pro AG Touchpad Support

Hi,

Thanks Tommy!

Vadim: Let me know what I can do to help.

AJ

Quoted 9 lines · Tommy Will

Hi AJ,

Sorry for reply late. I have got the positive reply from my Cirque's colleague and please allow me to introduce Vadim to you. He's now main for S/W development of Cirque's product and he would help you of your "Cirque Smart Cat Pro AG Touchpad".

Thanks

#8 lore raw

Is it a USB or PS/2 touchpad?

----- Original Message -----
From: "AJ Guillon" <[email protected]>
To: "Vadim Klishko" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>; "Tommy Will" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: ALPS: Cirque Smart Cat Pro AG Touchpad Support

Hi Vadim,

I am currently on Kubuntu 12.04 (3.2.0-29-generic), and this device is not recognized as a touchpad. I have not yet tested a nightly build with a recent kernel to see if that works.

It is detected and works as a mouse right now, but my understanding is that if it is recognized as a touchpad I can do more interesting things with it ;-)

AJ

Quoted 36 lines · Vadim Klishko

Hello AJ,

I thought it was I who was supposed to be helping. :-)

Can you please describe the problem?

Vadim

----- Original Message -----
From: "AJ Guillon" <[email protected]>
To: "Tommy Will" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: ALPS: Cirque Smart Cat Pro AG Touchpad Support

Hi,

Thanks Tommy!

Vadim: Let me know what I can do to help.

AJ

Quoted 9 lines · Tommy Will

Hi AJ,

Sorry for reply late. I have got the positive reply from my Cirque's colleague and please allow me to introduce Vadim to you. He's now main for S/W development of Cirque's product and he would help you of your "Cirque Smart Cat Pro AG Touchpad".

Thanks

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USB. Model GP415U-5321.

AJ

Quoted 61 lines · Vadim Klishko

Is it a USB or PS/2 touchpad?

----- Original Message -----
From: "AJ Guillon" <[email protected]>
To: "Vadim Klishko" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>; "Tommy Will" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: ALPS: Cirque Smart Cat Pro AG Touchpad Support

Hi Vadim,

I am currently on Kubuntu 12.04 (3.2.0-29-generic), and this device is not recognized as a touchpad. I have not yet tested a nightly build with a recent kernel to see if that works.

It is detected and works as a mouse right now, but my understanding is that if it is recognized as a touchpad I can do more interesting things with it ;-)

AJ

Quoted 36 lines · Vadim Klishko

Hello AJ,

I thought it was I who was supposed to be helping. :-)

Can you please describe the problem?

Vadim

----- Original Message -----
From: "AJ Guillon" <[email protected]>
To: "Tommy Will" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: ALPS: Cirque Smart Cat Pro AG Touchpad Support

Hi,

Thanks Tommy!

Vadim: Let me know what I can do to help.

AJ

Quoted 9 lines · Tommy Will

Hi AJ,

Sorry for reply late. I have got the positive reply from my Cirque's colleague and please allow me to introduce Vadim to you. He's now main for S/W development of Cirque's product and he would help you of your "Cirque Smart Cat Pro AG Touchpad".

Thanks

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Hi AJ,

Apparently, the Linux kernel doesn't have support for that touchpad. In fact, I am not sure it has support for any USB touchpads.

At one point, Cirque tried to create a driver for Linux, but we ran into legal issues with the GPL. We then started working on a user-space driver, but there didn't seem to be enough demand or interest in it, so we have never finished it.

What kind of interesting things are you looking to do with the touchpad?

Vadim

----- Original Message -----
From: "AJ Guillon" <[email protected]>
To: "Vadim Klishko" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>; "Tommy Will" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: ALPS: Cirque Smart Cat Pro AG Touchpad Support

USB. Model GP415U-5321.

AJ

Quoted 61 lines · Vadim Klishko

Is it a USB or PS/2 touchpad?

----- Original Message -----
From: "AJ Guillon" <[email protected]>
To: "Vadim Klishko" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>; "Tommy Will" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: ALPS: Cirque Smart Cat Pro AG Touchpad Support

Hi Vadim,

I am currently on Kubuntu 12.04 (3.2.0-29-generic), and this device is not recognized as a touchpad. I have not yet tested a nightly build with a recent kernel to see if that works.

It is detected and works as a mouse right now, but my understanding is that if it is recognized as a touchpad I can do more interesting things with it ;-)

AJ

Quoted 36 lines · Vadim Klishko

Hello AJ,

I thought it was I who was supposed to be helping. :-)

Can you please describe the problem?

Vadim

----- Original Message -----
From: "AJ Guillon" <[email protected]>
To: "Tommy Will" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: ALPS: Cirque Smart Cat Pro AG Touchpad Support

Hi,

Thanks Tommy!

Vadim: Let me know what I can do to help.

AJ

Quoted 9 lines · Tommy Will

Hi AJ,

Sorry for reply late. I have got the positive reply from my Cirque's colleague and please allow me to introduce Vadim to you. He's now main for S/W development of Cirque's product and he would help you of your "Cirque Smart Cat Pro AG Touchpad".

Thanks

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Hi Vadim,

I'm a professional developer and it was suggested to me that I use a Cirque touchpad to reduce strain based on my work habits. Since 100% of my development is done on Linux systems, this touchpad is only useful to me in that environment.

I'm not entirely sure what features this touchpad actually supports, but it would be nice if I could use it to its full potential. The side buttons, I suppose, are programmable so it would be nice for me to be able to set them to switch desktops or something. Ideally, I would like to script this touchpad as much as I can to reduce potential for injury.

AJ

Quoted 86 lines · Vadim Klishko

Hi AJ,

Apparently, the Linux kernel doesn't have support for that touchpad. In fact, I am not sure it has support for any USB touchpads.

At one point, Cirque tried to create a driver for Linux, but we ran into legal issues with the GPL. We then started working on a user-space driver, but there didn't seem to be enough demand or interest in it, so we have never finished it.

What kind of interesting things are you looking to do with the touchpad?

Vadim

----- Original Message -----
From: "AJ Guillon" <[email protected]>
To: "Vadim Klishko" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>; "Tommy Will" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: ALPS: Cirque Smart Cat Pro AG Touchpad Support

USB. Model GP415U-5321.

AJ

Quoted 61 lines · Vadim Klishko

Is it a USB or PS/2 touchpad?

----- Original Message -----
From: "AJ Guillon" <[email protected]>
To: "Vadim Klishko" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>; "Tommy Will" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: ALPS: Cirque Smart Cat Pro AG Touchpad Support

Hi Vadim,

I am currently on Kubuntu 12.04 (3.2.0-29-generic), and this device is not recognized as a touchpad. I have not yet tested a nightly build with a recent kernel to see if that works.

It is detected and works as a mouse right now, but my understanding is that if it is recognized as a touchpad I can do more interesting things with it ;-)

AJ

Quoted 36 lines · Vadim Klishko

Hello AJ,

I thought it was I who was supposed to be helping. :-)

Can you please describe the problem?

Vadim

----- Original Message -----
From: "AJ Guillon" <[email protected]>
To: "Tommy Will" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: ALPS: Cirque Smart Cat Pro AG Touchpad Support

Hi,

Thanks Tommy!

Vadim: Let me know what I can do to help.

AJ

Quoted 9 lines · Tommy Will

Hi AJ,

Sorry for reply late. I have got the positive reply from my Cirque's colleague and please allow me to introduce Vadim to you. He's now main for S/W development of Cirque's product and he would help you of your "Cirque Smart Cat Pro AG Touchpad".

Thanks

#12 lore raw

Hello AJ,

I have heard from our customers before that using a touchpad is easier on one's hand than a mouse. Using a touchpad for moving and pointing should already reduce the strain. Being able to adjust touchpad settings may not give you any additional strain reduction benefits, but it could certainly make the experience of using a touchpad more pleasant.

But that is really beside the point. I am not trying to tell you what you need or don't need. You have the right to want a driver for your touchpad for whatever reason, and I sincerely apologize that we don't have one for Linux. We would really love to be able to provide one, but, unfortunately, we don't have one available. If we had, it would be a closed source user-space driver.

I can raise the question of reviving our Linux driver project with our management, but it might take a while before it is completed.

Can you suggest any other solution?

Sincerely,

Vadim

----- Original Message -----
From: "AJ Guillon" <[email protected]>
To: "Vadim Klishko" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>; "Tommy Will" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: ALPS: Cirque Smart Cat Pro AG Touchpad Support

Quoted 102 lines

Hi Vadim,

I'm a professional developer and it was suggested to me that I use a Cirque touchpad to reduce strain based on my work habits. Since 100% of my development is done on Linux systems, this touchpad is only useful to me in that environment.

I'm not entirely sure what features this touchpad actually supports, but it would be nice if I could use it to its full potential. The side buttons, I suppose, are programmable so it would be nice for me to be able to set them to switch desktops or something. Ideally, I would like to script this touchpad as much as I can to reduce potential for injury.

AJ

Quoted 86 lines · Vadim Klishko

Hi AJ,

Apparently, the Linux kernel doesn't have support for that touchpad. In fact, I am not sure it has support for any USB touchpads.

At one point, Cirque tried to create a driver for Linux, but we ran into legal issues with the GPL. We then started working on a user-space driver, but there didn't seem to be enough demand or interest in it, so we have never finished it.

What kind of interesting things are you looking to do with the touchpad?

Vadim

----- Original Message -----
From: "AJ Guillon" <[email protected]>
To: "Vadim Klishko" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>; "Tommy Will" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: ALPS: Cirque Smart Cat Pro AG Touchpad Support

USB. Model GP415U-5321.

AJ

Quoted 61 lines · Vadim Klishko

Is it a USB or PS/2 touchpad?

----- Original Message -----
From: "AJ Guillon" <[email protected]>
To: "Vadim Klishko" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>; "Tommy Will" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: ALPS: Cirque Smart Cat Pro AG Touchpad Support

Hi Vadim,

I am currently on Kubuntu 12.04 (3.2.0-29-generic), and this device is not recognized as a touchpad. I have not yet tested a nightly build with a recent kernel to see if that works.

It is detected and works as a mouse right now, but my understanding is that if it is recognized as a touchpad I can do more interesting things with it ;-)

AJ

Quoted 36 lines · Vadim Klishko

Hello AJ,

I thought it was I who was supposed to be helping. :-)

Can you please describe the problem?

Vadim

----- Original Message -----
From: "AJ Guillon" <[email protected]>
To: "Tommy Will" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: ALPS: Cirque Smart Cat Pro AG Touchpad Support

Hi,

Thanks Tommy!

Vadim: Let me know what I can do to help.

AJ

Quoted 9 lines · Tommy Will

Hi AJ,

Sorry for reply late. I have got the positive reply from my Cirque's colleague and please allow me to introduce Vadim to you. He's now main for S/W development of Cirque's product and he would help you of your "Cirque Smart Cat Pro AG Touchpad".

Thanks

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In reply to Vadim Klishko

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 22:40:12 -0700
"Vadim Klishko" <[email protected]> wrote:
<snip>

Quoted 2 lines

At one point, Cirque tried to create a driver for Linux, but we ran into legal issues with the GPL.

Out of curiosity, do you remember offhand what the legal issues you ran into are?

If it's useful, we could (nicely) ask Red Hat's Legal team for their insight and general thoughts/advice if they have the time (no idea if they do).

They're very good, and have lots of experience working through GPL legal issues, figuring out practical approaches/solutions.

?

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Clift" <[email protected]>
To: "Vadim Klishko" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>; "Tommy Will" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: ALPS: Cirque Smart Cat Pro AG Touchpad Support

Quoted 9 lines

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 22:40:12 -0700
"Vadim Klishko" <[email protected]> wrote:
<snip>

Quoted 2 lines

At one point, Cirque tried to create a driver for Linux, but we ran into legal issues with the GPL.

Out of curiosity, do you remember offhand what the legal issues you ran into are?

Yes, of course, I do. GPL doesn't allow closed source in kernel.

Quoted 9 lines

If it's useful, we could (nicely) ask Red Hat's Legal team for their insight and general thoughts/advice if they have the time (no idea if they do).

They're very good, and have lots of experience working through GPL legal issues, figuring out practical approaches/solutions.

?

I doubt it will help.

Quoted 9 lines

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift

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Quoted 2 lines · On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:43:35 -0700 "Vadim Klishko" <[email protected]> wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2014 11:32 -0700
"Justin Clift" <[email protected]> wrote:

<snip>

Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 3 lines

Out of curiosity, do you remember offhand what the legal issues you ran into are?

Yes, of course, I do. GPL doesn't allow closed source in kernel.

Ahhh, got it. :)

Yeah, wanting to keep the driver code closed source would definitely be a problem there. ;>

Quoted 11 lines
Quoted 9 lines

If it's useful, we could (nicely) ask Red Hat's Legal team for their insight and general thoughts/advice if they have the time (no idea if they do).

They're very good, and have lots of experience working through GPL legal issues, figuring out practical approaches/solutions.

?

I doubt it will help.

You could be right. The only thing I can think of, is that they might know of good ways for Cirque for become ok with going open source for the USB touchpad drivers, instead of keeping closed source.

eg some way to make the benefits of going open source be
greater than the benefits of keeping closed source

But, up to you. Not going to push it if you're not really interested. :)

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift

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