TrueCrypt is discontinued - here are the alternatives

dm-crypt Sophie Hunt 5 participants 8 messages Dec 28, 2016 – Jan 5, 2017

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Sophie Hunt

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2016-12-28 11:49 UTC #0 lore raw

Hi,

I appreciate that you're probably busy so I just wanted to follow up on the email I sent you the other day; copy included below for reference:

		On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Sophie Hunt <[email protected]> wrote:
		
			 Hi,

I noticed you've shared TrueCrypt on this page https://unstable.nl/cgi-bin/man/man2html?8+cryptsetup, as you may be aware, development of TrueCrypt was discontinued back in 2014 and has subsequently not been maintained. A number of security flaws have been uncovered and as a result we are reaching out to people to highlight a list of alternatives.

Here's the list (along with further details about TrueCrypt no longer being maintained) - https://www.comparitech.com/blog/information-security/truecrypt-is-discoutinued-try-these-free-alternatives/, when you update your page it could be a useful resource to point your visitors to.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

-Sophie

Arno Wagner

2016-12-28 16:20 UTC #1 lore raw

Hi,

you are free to maintain your page yourself. I doubt anybody here cares about it.

Regards,
Arno

Quoted 25 lines · Sophie Hunt

Hi,
I appreciate that you're probably busy so I just wanted to follow up on the email I sent you the other day; copy included below for reference:
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Sophie Hunt <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
I noticed you've shared TrueCrypt on this page
https://unstable.nl/cgi-bin/man/man2html?8+cryptsetup, as you may be aware, development of TrueCrypt was discontinued back in 2014 and has subsequently not been maintained. A number of security flaws have been uncovered and as a result we are reaching out to people to highlight a list of alternatives.
Here's the list (along with further details about TrueCrypt no longer being maintained) -
https://www.comparitech.com/blog/information-security/truecrypt-is-d
iscoutinued-try-these-free-alternatives/, when you update your page it could be a useful resource to point your visitors to. Please let me know if you have any questions.
-Sophie
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Arno Wagner,     Dr. sc. techn., Dipl. Inform.,    Email: [email protected]
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A good decision is based on knowledge and not on numbers. -- Plato

If it's in the news, don't worry about it.  The very definition of 
"news" is "something that hardly ever happens." -- Bruce Schneier

Sven Eschenberg

2016-12-28 16:41 UTC #2 lore raw

Hi Arno,

I think this is simple UBE for clickbaiting. It's probably best to blacklist the whole domain and the sending host on the server handling the mailinglist.

Regards

-Sven

Am 28.12.2016 um 17:20 schrieb Arno Wagner:

Quoted 36 lines

Hi,
you are free to maintain your page yourself. I doubt anybody here cares about it.
Regards,
Arno
Quoted 25 lines · Sophie Hunt
Hi,
I appreciate that you're probably busy so I just wanted to follow up on the email I sent you the other day; copy included below for reference:
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Sophie Hunt <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
I noticed you've shared TrueCrypt on this page
https://unstable.nl/cgi-bin/man/man2html?8+cryptsetup, as you may be aware, development of TrueCrypt was discontinued back in 2014 and has subsequently not been maintained. A number of security flaws have been uncovered and as a result we are reaching out to people to highlight a list of alternatives.
Here's the list (along with further details about TrueCrypt no longer being maintained) -
https://www.comparitech.com/blog/information-security/truecrypt-is-d
iscoutinued-try-these-free-alternatives/, when you update your page it could be a useful resource to point your visitors to. Please let me know if you have any questions.
-Sophie
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Arno Wagner

2016-12-28 19:55 UTC #3 lore raw

I had a look at it now and I agree. They apparently list LUKS as a TrueCrypt alternative on Windows, which is just clueless.

Regards,
Arno

Quoted 52 lines · Sven Eschenberg

Hi Arno,
I think this is simple UBE for clickbaiting. It's probably best to blacklist the whole domain and the sending host on the server handling the mailinglist.
Regards
-Sven
Am 28.12.2016 um 17:20 schrieb Arno Wagner:
Quoted 36 lines
Hi,
you are free to maintain your page yourself. I doubt anybody here cares about it.
Regards,
Arno
Quoted 25 lines · Sophie Hunt
Hi,
I appreciate that you're probably busy so I just wanted to follow up on the email I sent you the other day; copy included below for reference:
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Sophie Hunt <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
I noticed you've shared TrueCrypt on this page
https://unstable.nl/cgi-bin/man/man2html?8+cryptsetup, as you may be aware, development of TrueCrypt was discontinued back in 2014 and has subsequently not been maintained. A number of security flaws have been uncovered and as a result we are reaching out to people to highlight a list of alternatives.
Here's the list (along with further details about TrueCrypt no longer being maintained) -
https://www.comparitech.com/blog/information-security/truecrypt-is-d
iscoutinued-try-these-free-alternatives/, when you update your page it could be a useful resource to point your visitors to. Please let me know if you have any questions.
-Sophie
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Arno Wagner,     Dr. sc. techn., Dipl. Inform.,    Email: [email protected]
GnuPG: ID: CB5D9718  FP: 12D6 C03B 1B30 33BB 13CF  B774 E35C 5FA1 CB5D 9718
----
A good decision is based on knowledge and not on numbers. -- Plato

If it's in the news, don't worry about it.  The very definition of 
"news" is "something that hardly ever happens." -- Bruce Schneier

Laurence Darby

2017-01-03 20:57 UTC #4 lore raw

I'm not sure if that was true before but it's not now.

The original point of this thread is that cryptsetup's man page is still linking http://www.truecrypt.org as if that was still useful, it's not spam at all.

Laurence

Quoted 73 lines · On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 20:55:47 +0100 Arno Wagner wrote:

I had a look at it now and I agree. They apparently list LUKS as a TrueCrypt alternative on Windows, which is just clueless.
Regards,
Arno
Quoted 52 lines · Sven Eschenberg
Hi Arno,
I think this is simple UBE for clickbaiting. It's probably best to blacklist the whole domain and the sending host on the server handling the mailinglist.
Regards
-Sven
Am 28.12.2016 um 17:20 schrieb Arno Wagner:
Quoted 36 lines
Hi,
you are free to maintain your page yourself. I doubt anybody here cares about it.
Regards,
Arno
Quoted 25 lines · Sophie Hunt
Hi,
I appreciate that you're probably busy so I just wanted to
follow up on the email I sent you the other day; copy included below for reference: On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Sophie Hunt <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
I noticed you've shared TrueCrypt on this page
https://unstable.nl/cgi-bin/man/man2html?8+cryptsetup, as
you may be aware, development of TrueCrypt was discontinued back in 2014 and has subsequently not been maintained. A number of security flaws have been uncovered and as a result we are reaching out to people to highlight a list of alternatives.
Here's the list (along with further details about TrueCrypt
no longer being maintained) -
https://www.comparitech.com/blog/information-security/truecrypt-is-d
iscoutinued-try-these-free-alternatives/, when you update
your page it could be a useful resource to point your visitors to. Please let me know if you have any questions.
-Sophie
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Arno Wagner,     Dr. sc. techn., Dipl. Inform.,    Email:
[email protected] GnuPG: ID: CB5D9718  FP: 12D6 C03B 1B30 33BB 13CF
B774 E35C 5FA1 CB5D 9718
----
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If it's in the news, don't worry about it.  The very definition of 
"news" is "something that hardly ever happens." -- Bruce Schneier
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Milan Broz

2017-01-04 07:08 UTC #5 lore raw

Quoted 6 lines · Laurence Darby

I'm not sure if that was true before but it's not now.
The original point of this thread is that cryptsetup's man page is still linking http://www.truecrypt.org as if that was still useful, it's not spam at all.

Yes, this one reference was missed. I changed it so it points to wikipedia now, there are links to other projects derived from TrueCrypt.

Thanks,
Milan

Sven Eschenberg

2017-01-04 15:31 UTC #6 lore raw

In reply to Laurence Darby

The original post referenced an autogenerated htmlpage, derived from an elderly man-page. The original post had no point, as man pages are not hypertext and don't link anywhere.

The reference (to tcrypt) is outdated, since TC is dead and should be removed. As simple as that.

Aside from that, the original post was (auto)generated as clickbait, it just does not make sense at all. No human would write such a pile of steaming bs.

Neither was TC 'shared' (claim) on the autogenerated page, nor is an autogenerated html on some arbitrary host under cryptsetup project's control (claim). Further there's no alternative to cryptsetups TC legacy mode, as claimed by the mail. It is just part of cryptsetup and limited to using the container. On top of that, the link to the blog post by some mischievous company with the intention to get known better is clickbaiting, no matter how you look at it.

And that certainly qualifies as spam.

Regards

-Sven

Am 03.01.2017 um 21:49 schrieb Laurence Darby:

Quoted 90 lines

I'm not sure if that was true before but it's not now.
The original point of this thread is that cryptsetup's man page is still linking http://www.truecrypt.org as if that was still useful, it's not spam at all.
Laurence
Quoted 67 lines · On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 20:55:47 +0100 Arno Wagner wrote:
I had a look at it now and I agree. They apparently list LUKS as a TrueCrypt alternative on Windows, which is just clueless.
Regards,
Arno
Quoted 48 lines · Sven Eschenberg
Hi Arno,
I think this is simple UBE for clickbaiting. It's probably best to blacklist the whole domain and the sending host on the server handling the mailinglist.
Regards
-Sven
Am 28.12.2016 um 17:20 schrieb Arno Wagner:
Quoted 36 lines
Hi,
you are free to maintain your page yourself. I doubt anybody here cares about it.
Regards,
Arno
Quoted 25 lines · Sophie Hunt
Hi,
I appreciate that you're probably busy so I just wanted to
follow up on the email I sent you the other day; copy included below for reference: On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Sophie Hunt <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
I noticed you've shared TrueCrypt on this page
https://unstable.nl/cgi-bin/man/man2html?8+cryptsetup, as
you may be aware, development of TrueCrypt was discontinued back in 2014 and has subsequently not been maintained. A number of security flaws have been uncovered and as a result we are reaching out to people to highlight a list of alternatives.
Here's the list (along with further details about TrueCrypt
no longer being maintained) -
https://www.comparitech.com/blog/information-security/truecrypt-is-d
iscoutinued-try-these-free-alternatives/, when you update
your page it could be a useful resource to point your visitors to. Please let me know if you have any questions.
-Sophie
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Laurence Darby

2017-01-05 21:53 UTC #7 lore raw

eh? It'd have to be a pretty advanced AI that can point out where cryptsetup's documentation is outdated.

Yes, it's spammy, and they used slightly confusing language, but at the same time it was doing cryptsetup a favour so I really don't get what your problem is.

Quoted 121 lines · On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 16:31:02 +0100 Sven Eschenberg wrote:

The original post referenced an autogenerated htmlpage, derived from an elderly man-page. The original post had no point, as man pages are not hypertext and don't link anywhere.
The reference (to tcrypt) is outdated, since TC is dead and should be removed. As simple as that.
Aside from that, the original post was (auto)generated as clickbait, it just does not make sense at all. No human would write such a pile of steaming bs.
Neither was TC 'shared' (claim) on the autogenerated page, nor is an autogenerated html on some arbitrary host under cryptsetup project's control (claim). Further there's no alternative to cryptsetups TC legacy mode, as claimed by the mail. It is just part of cryptsetup and limited to using the container. On top of that, the link to the blog post by some mischievous company with the intention to get known better is clickbaiting, no matter how you look at it.
And that certainly qualifies as spam.
Regards
-Sven
Am 03.01.2017 um 21:49 schrieb Laurence Darby:
Quoted 85 lines
I'm not sure if that was true before but it's not now.
The original point of this thread is that cryptsetup's man page is still linking http://www.truecrypt.org as if that was still useful, it's not spam at all.
Laurence
Quoted 67 lines · On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 20:55:47 +0100 Arno Wagner wrote:
I had a look at it now and I agree. They apparently list LUKS as a TrueCrypt alternative on Windows, which is just clueless.
Regards,
Arno
Quoted 48 lines · Sven Eschenberg
Hi Arno,
I think this is simple UBE for clickbaiting. It's probably best to blacklist the whole domain and the sending host on the server handling the mailinglist.
Regards
-Sven
Am 28.12.2016 um 17:20 schrieb Arno Wagner:
Quoted 36 lines
Hi,
you are free to maintain your page yourself. I doubt anybody here cares about it.
Regards,
Arno
Quoted 25 lines · Sophie Hunt
Hi,
I appreciate that you're probably busy so I just wanted to
follow up on the email I sent you the other day; copy included below for reference: On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Sophie Hunt <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
I noticed you've shared TrueCrypt on this page
https://unstable.nl/cgi-bin/man/man2html?8+cryptsetup, as
you may be aware, development of TrueCrypt was discontinued back in 2014 and has subsequently not been maintained. A number of security flaws have been uncovered and as a result we are reaching out to people to highlight a list of alternatives.
Here's the list (along with further details about TrueCrypt
no longer being maintained) -
https://www.comparitech.com/blog/information-security/truecrypt-is-d
iscoutinued-try-these-free-alternatives/, when you update
your page it could be a useful resource to point your visitors to. Please let me know if you have any questions.
-Sophie
_______________________________________________
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----
A good decision is based on knowledge and not on numbers. -- Plato
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If it's in the news, don't worry about it. The very definition of "news" is "something that hardly ever happens." -- Bruce Schneier
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