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How is e2fsck's time_fudge supposed to behave?

DISCUSSION Eric Sandeen 2 participants 3 messages Mar 13, 2015 – Mar 18, 2015

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I'm a little confused by e2fsck's time fudge current behavior, vs its apparent intent.

We do:

	if ( ... &&
            fs->super->s_mtime > (__u32) ctx->now) {
                pctx.num = fs->super->s_mtime;
                problem = PR_0_FUTURE_SB_LAST_MOUNT;
                if (fs->super->s_mtime <= (__u32) ctx->now + ctx->time_fudge)
                        problem = PR_0_FUTURE_SB_LAST_MOUNT_FUDGED;
                if (fix_problem(ctx, problem, &pctx)) {
                        fs->super->s_mtime = ctx->now;
                        fs->flags |= EXT2_FLAG_DIRTY;
                }

So if we are inside the time_fudge value we simply change the problem, but PR_0_FUTURE_SB_LAST_MOUNT_FUDGED behaves exactly like PR_0_FUTURE_SB_LAST_MOUNT, other than the message:

/* Last mount time is in the future (fudged) */
{ PR_0_FUTURE_SB_LAST_MOUNT_FUDGED,
N_("@S last mount time is in the future.\n\t(by less than a day, "
"probably due to the hardware clock being incorrectly set) "),
PROMPT_FIX, PR_PREEN_OK | PR_NO_OK },

vs:

        /* Last mount time is in the future */
        { PR_0_FUTURE_SB_LAST_MOUNT,
          N_("@S last mount time (%t,\n\tnow = %T) is in the future.\n"),
          PROMPT_FIX, PR_PREEN_OK | PR_NO_OK },

So unless I'm missing something, the whole fudge_time dance does nothing except change the message, and after reading lots of words in the e2fsck.conf manpage ;) this bit seems relevant as to the intent:

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So by default, we allow the superblock times to
be fudged by up to 24 hours.

I had the impression that "allow" meant "ignore" but this still triggers exactly the same action and correction. Is that as intended?

I'll send a patch do a printf and take no other action if inside the fudge_time window, if that seems like the right thing to do.

Thanks,
-Eric

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Quoted 37 lines · Eric Sandeen

I'm a little confused by e2fsck's time fudge current behavior, vs its apparent intent.

We do:

	if ( ... &&
            fs->super->s_mtime > (__u32) ctx->now) {
                pctx.num = fs->super->s_mtime;
                problem = PR_0_FUTURE_SB_LAST_MOUNT;
                if (fs->super->s_mtime <= (__u32) ctx->now + ctx->time_fudge)
                        problem = PR_0_FUTURE_SB_LAST_MOUNT_FUDGED;
                if (fix_problem(ctx, problem, &pctx)) {
                        fs->super->s_mtime = ctx->now;
                        fs->flags |= EXT2_FLAG_DIRTY;
                }

So if we are inside the time_fudge value we simply change the problem, but PR_0_FUTURE_SB_LAST_MOUNT_FUDGED behaves exactly like PR_0_FUTURE_SB_LAST_MOUNT, other than the message:

/* Last mount time is in the future (fudged) */
{ PR_0_FUTURE_SB_LAST_MOUNT_FUDGED,
N_("@S last mount time is in the future.\n\t(by less than a day, "
"probably due to the hardware clock being incorrectly set) "),
PROMPT_FIX, PR_PREEN_OK | PR_NO_OK },

vs:

        /* Last mount time is in the future */
        { PR_0_FUTURE_SB_LAST_MOUNT,
          N_("@S last mount time (%t,\n\tnow = %T) is in the future.\n"),
          PROMPT_FIX, PR_PREEN_OK | PR_NO_OK },

So unless I'm missing something, the whole fudge_time dance does nothing except change the message, and after reading lots of words in the e2fsck.conf manpage ;) this bit seems relevant as to the intent:

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So by default, we allow the superblock times to
be fudged by up to 24 hours.

I had the impression that "allow" meant "ignore" but this still triggers exactly the same action and correction. Is that as intended?

I'll send a patch do a printf and take no other action if inside the fudge_time window, if that seems like the right thing to do.

The actions became the same after commit
87aca2ad028b9 (e2fsck: fix last mount time and last write time in preen mode). Previously only fudged values were allowed to be fixed in the preen mode. The question is whether we now want to change e2fsck to just ignore difference within fudge or whether we just stop doing that fudge thing. Either makes sense to me...

Honza

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Jan Kara <[email protected]>
SUSE Labs, CR
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On Fri 13-03-15 17:31:18, Eric Sandeen wrote:

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So unless I'm missing something, the whole fudge_time dance does nothing except change the message, and after reading lots of words in the e2fsck.conf manpage ;) this bit seems relevant as to the intent:

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So by default, we allow the superblock times to
be fudged by up to 24 hours.

I had the impression that "allow" meant "ignore" but this still triggers exactly the same action and correction. Is that as intended?

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I'll send a patch do a printf and take no other action if inside the fudge_time window, if that seems like the right thing to do.

The actions became the same after commit
87aca2ad028b9 (e2fsck: fix last mount time and last write time in preen mode). Previously only fudged values were allowed to be fixed in the preen mode. The question is whether we now want to change e2fsck to just ignore difference within fudge or whether we just stop doing that fudge thing. Either makes sense to me...

Oh, thanks, I had missed that. Funny that OpenSUSE also set broken_system_clock; Fedora had been doing that too. For the same reasons. o_O

The problem I'm still seeing is that if the clock is off by under 24h, we still do fix_problem(), and set E2F_FLAG_PROBLEMS_FIXED, so check_if_skip() doesn't allow a skip. This happens on every single boot.

It sure seems like the intent was to completely ignore superblock time deltas under 24h... I guess I'll send a patch to do that, and see what Ted thinks.

Thanks,
-Eric