regression: nested: L1 3.15+ fails to load kvm-intel on L0 <3.15
Someone reported[1] that some of their L1 guests fail to load the kvm-intel module (without much details). Turns out that this was (at least) caused by
KVM: vmx: Allow the guest to run with dirty debug registers
as this adds VM_EXIT_SAVE_DEBUG_CONTROLS to the required MSR_IA32_VMX_EXIT_CTLS bits. Not sure this should be fixed up in pre 3.15 kernels or the other way round. Maybe naively asked but would it be sufficient to add this as required to older kernels vmcs setup (without the code to make any use of it)?
Regardless of that, I wonder whether the below (this version untested) sound acceptable for upstream? At least it would make debugging much simpler. :)
arch/x86/kvm/vmx.c +4 -1
@@ -2953,8 +2953,11 @@ static __init int adjust_vmx_controls(u32 ctl_min, u32 ct ctl |= vmx_msr_low;/* bit == 1 in low word ==> must be one */ /* Ensure minimum (required) set of control bits are supported. */ -if (ctl_min & ~ctl) +if (ctl_min & ~ctl) { +printk (KERN_ERR "vmx: msr(%08x) does not match requirements. " +"req=%08x cur=%08x\n" , msr, ctl_min, ctl);return -EIO ; + } *result = ctl;return 0 ;
Thanks,
-Stefan
[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1431473
Paolo Bonzini
maintainerQuoted 9 lines · Stefan Bader
Regardless of that, I wonder whether the below (this version untested) sound acceptable for upstream? At least it would make debugging much simpler. :)
arch/x86/kvm/vmx.c +0
-0@@ -2953,8 +2953,11 @@ static __init int adjust_vmx_controls(u32 ctl_min, u32 ct ctl |= vmx_msr_low;/* bit == 1 in low word ==> must be one */
arch/x86/kvm/vmx.c static __init int adjust_vmx_controls(u32 ctl_min, u32 ct · line 2963
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arch/x86/kvm/vmx.c +4
-1/* Ensure minimum (required) set of control bits are supported. */ -if (ctl_min & ~ctl) +if (ctl_min & ~ctl) { +printk (KERN_ERR "vmx: msr(%08x) does not match requirements. " +"req=%08x cur=%08x\n" , msr, ctl_min, ctl);return -EIO ; + } *result = ctl;return 0 ;
Yes, this is nice. Maybe -ENODEV.
Also, a minimal patch for Ubuntu would probably be:
@@ -2850,7 +2851,7 @@ static __init int setup_vmcs_config(struct vmcs_config *vmcs_conf)
vmx_capability.ept, vmx_capability.vpid);
}
- min = 0;
+ min = VM_EXIT_SAVE_DEBUG_CONTROLS;
#ifdef CONFIG_X86_64
min |= VM_EXIT_HOST_ADDR_SPACE_SIZE;
#endif
but I don't think it's a good idea to add it to stable kernels.
Paolo
Quoted 20 lines · Paolo Bonzini
Quoted 17 lines · Stefan Bader
Regardless of that, I wonder whether the below (this version untested) sound acceptable for upstream? At least it would make debugging much simpler. :)
arch/x86/kvm/vmx.c +4
-1@@ -2953,8 +2953,11 @@ static __init int adjust_vmx_controls(u32 ctl_min, u32 ct ctl |= vmx_msr_low;/* bit == 1 in low word ==> must be one */ /* Ensure minimum (required) set of control bits are supported. */ -if (ctl_min & ~ctl) +if (ctl_min & ~ctl) { +printk (KERN_ERR "vmx: msr(%08x) does not match requirements. " +"req=%08x cur=%08x\n" , msr, ctl_min, ctl);return -EIO ; + }
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arch/x86/kvm/vmx.c static __init int adjust_vmx_controls(u32 ctl_min, u32 ct · line 2963
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arch/x86/kvm/vmx.c +0
-0*result = ctl;return 0 ;Yes, this is nice. Maybe
-ENODEV.
Maybe, though I did not change that. Just added to give some kind of hint when the module would otherwise fail with just an IO error.
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Also, a minimal patch for Ubuntu would probably be:
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-1@@ -2850,7 +2851,7 @@ static __init int setup_vmcs_config(struct vmcs_config *vmcs_conf) vmx_capability.ept, vmx_capability.vpid); } - min = 0; + min = VM_EXIT_SAVE_DEBUG_CONTROLS; #ifdef CONFIG_X86_64 min |= VM_EXIT_HOST_ADDR_SPACE_SIZE; #endif
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but I don't think it's a good idea to add it to stable kernels.
Why is that? Because it has a risk of causing the module failing to load on L0 where it did work before? Which would be something I would rather avoid. Generally I think it would be good to have something that can be generally applied. Given the speed that cloud service providers tend to move forward (ok they may not actively push the ability to go nested).
-Stefan
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Paolo
Paolo Bonzini
maintainerQuoted 11 lines · Stefan Bader
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(quoted diff) +0
-1@@ -2850,7 +2851,7 @@ static __init int setup_vmcs_config(struct vmcs_config *vmcs_conf) vmx_capability.ept, vmx_capability.vpid); } - min = 0; + min = VM_EXIT_SAVE_DEBUG_CONTROLS; #ifdef
CONFIG_X86_64min |=VM_EXIT_HOST_ADDR_SPACE_SIZE; #endifbut I don't think it's a good idea to add it to stable kernels.
Why is that? Because it has a risk of causing the module failing to load on L0 where it did work before?
Because if we wanted to make 3.14 nested VMX stable-ish we would need several more, at least these:
KVM: nVMX: fix lifetime issues for vmcs02
KVM: nVMX: clean up nested_release_vmcs12 and code around it
KVM: nVMX: Rework interception of IRQs and NMIs
KVM: nVMX: Do not inject NMI vmexits when L2 has a pending
interrupt
KVM: nVMX: Disable preemption while reading from shadow VMCS
and for 3.13:
KVM: nVMX: Leave VMX mode on clearing of feature control MSR
There are also several L2-crash-L1 bugs too in Nadav Amit's patches.
Basically, nested VMX was never considered stable-worthy. Perhaps that can change soon---but not retroactively.
So I'd rather avoid giving false impressions of the stability of nVMX in 3.14.
Even if we considered nVMX stable, I'd _really_ not want to consider the L1<->L2 boundary a secure one for a longer time.
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Which would be something I would rather avoid. Generally I think it would be good to have something that can be generally applied. Given the speed that cloud service providers tend to move forward (ok they may not actively push the ability to go nested).
And if they did, I'd really not want them to do it with a 3.14 kernel.
Paolo
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Quoted 11 lines · Stefan Bader
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(quoted diff) +0
-1@@ -2850,7 +2851,7 @@ static __init int setup_vmcs_config(struct vmcs_config *vmcs_conf) vmx_capability.ept, vmx_capability.vpid); } - min = 0; + min = VM_EXIT_SAVE_DEBUG_CONTROLS; #ifdef
CONFIG_X86_64min |=VM_EXIT_HOST_ADDR_SPACE_SIZE; #endifbut I don't think it's a good idea to add it to stable kernels.
Why is that? Because it has a risk of causing the module failing to load on L0 where it did work before?
Because if we wanted to make 3.14 nested VMX stable-ish we would need several more, at least these:
KVM: nVMX: fix lifetime issues for vmcs02
KVM: nVMX: clean upnested_release_vmcs12and code around it
KVM: nVMX: Rework interception of IRQs and NMIs
KVM: nVMX: Do not inject NMI vmexits when L2 has a pending
interrupt
KVM: nVMX: Disable preemption while reading from shadow VMCSand for 3.13:
KVM: nVMX: Leave VMX mode on clearing of feature control MSR
There are also several L2-crash-L1 bugs too in Nadav Amit's patches.
Basically, nested VMX was never considered stable-worthy. Perhaps that can change soon---but not retroactively.
So I'd rather avoid giving false impressions of the stability of nVMX in 3.14.
Even if we considered nVMX stable, I'd _really_ not want to consider the L1<->L2 boundary a secure one for a longer time.
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Which would be something I would rather avoid. Generally I think it would be good to have something that can be generally applied. Given the speed that cloud service providers tend to move forward (ok they may not actively push the ability to go nested).
And if they did, I'd really not want them to do it with a 3.14 kernel.
3.14... you are optimistic. :) But thanks a lot for the detailed info.
-Stefan
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Paolo
Re: regression: nested: L1 3.15+ fails to load kvm-intel on L0 <3.10
In reply to Paolo BonziniQuoted 37 lines · Paolo Bonzini
Quoted 9 lines · Stefan Bader
Regardless of that, I wonder whether the below (this version untested) sound acceptable for upstream? At least it would make debugging much simpler. :)
arch/x86/kvm/vmx.c +0
-0@@ -2953,8 +2953,11 @@ static __init int adjust_vmx_controls(u32 ctl_min, u32 ct ctl |= vmx_msr_low;/* bit == 1 in low word ==> must be one */ arch/x86/kvm/vmx.c static __init int adjust_vmx_controls(u32 ctl_min, u32 ct · line 2963
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arch/x86/kvm/vmx.c +4
-1/* Ensure minimum (required) set of control bits are supported. */ -if (ctl_min & ~ctl) +if (ctl_min & ~ctl) { +printk (KERN_ERR "vmx: msr(%08x) does not match requirements. " +"req=%08x cur=%08x\n" , msr, ctl_min, ctl);return -EIO ; + } *result = ctl;return 0 ;Yes, this is nice. Maybe
-ENODEV.Also, a minimal patch for Ubuntu would probably be:
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-1@@ -2850,7 +2851,7 @@ static __init int setup_vmcs_config(struct vmcs_config *vmcs_conf) vmx_capability.ept, vmx_capability.vpid); } - min = 0; + min = VM_EXIT_SAVE_DEBUG_CONTROLS; #ifdef CONFIG_X86_64 min |= VM_EXIT_HOST_ADDR_SPACE_SIZE; #endif
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but I don't think it's a good idea to add it to stable kernels.
Sorry, I got a bit confused on my assumptions. While the change above causes guests to fail but the statement to say this is caused by host kernels before this change was against better knowledge and wrong.
The actual range was hosts running 3.2 which (maybe not perfect but at least well enough) allowed to use nested vmx for guest kernel <3.15 will break. But running 3.13 on the host has no issues.
Comparing the rdmsr values of guests between those two host kernels, I found that on 3.2 the exit control msr was very sparsely initialized. And looking at the changes between 3.2 and 3.13 I found
commit 33fb20c39e98b90813b5ab2d9a0d6faa6300caca
Author: Jan Kiszka <[email protected]> Date: Wed Mar 6 15:44:03 2013 +0100
KVM: nVMX: Fix content of MSR_IA32_VMX_ENTRY/EXIT_CTLS
This was added in 3.10. So the range of kernels affected <3.10 back to when nested vmx became somewhat usable. For 3.2 Ben (and obviously us) would be affected. Apart from that, I believe, it is only 3.4 which has an active longterm. At least that change looks safer for stable as it sounds like correcting things and not adding a feature. I was able to cherry-pick that into a 3.2 kernel and then a 3.16 guest successfully can load the kvm-intel module again, of course with the same shortcomings as before.
-Stefan
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Paolo
Paolo Bonzini
maintainerRe: regression: nested: L1 3.15+ fails to load kvm-intel on L0 <3.10
Quoted 8 lines · Stefan Bader
This was added in 3.10. So the range of kernels affected <3.10 back to when nested vmx became somewhat usable. For 3.2 Ben (and obviously us) would be affected. Apart from that, I believe, it is only 3.4 which has an active longterm. At least that change looks safer for stable as it sounds like correcting things and not adding a feature. I was able to cherry-pick that into a 3.2 kernel and then a 3.16 guest successfully can load the kvm-intel module again, of course with the same shortcomings as before.
Feel free to backport whatever you want to distro kernels. But I'm going to NACK for stable@ anything that is related to nested virt.
The code has changed so much that I simply cannot do a meaningful review of most patches when applied to old codebases.
Paolo