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All,

It is time for my server to be upgraded and I am looking for advice. I
usually build my machine so, I am looking primarily for a motherboard that has several sata ports that is compatible with linux.

I looked at Asrock extreme6, but apparently it has 4 of its 10 sata ports are on ASMedia ASM 1061 chipset which apparently is not supported on linux per what I can find on various comments/information from the net

All others seem to be X99 or other server chipsets which I am not fond of. I like desktop boards as the server also doubles as mythtv backend/frontend.

Let me know if this is the wrong thread and I should ask some where else.

Regards
Ramesh

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Quoted 9 lines · Weedy
Quoted 2 lines · On 11 Nov 2015 21:46, "Ram Ramesh" <[email protected]…

All others seem to be X99 or other server chipsets which I am not

fond of. I like desktop boards as the server also doubles as mythtv backend/frontend.

ASrock has an atom board that takes ECC and has 10 or 12 sata ports. They should all be Intel ports.

Thanks. I guess you mean this?

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ASRock C2750D4I Mini ITX Server Motherboard FCBGA1283 DDR3 1600/1333

It does look good for what it offers. It is a server board and 6 ports are on Marvel controller. Further this is mini ITX and possibly no video card. Limited for mythtv purpose. Not to mention $400 :-)

Ramesh

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Quoted 10 lines · Roman Mamedov
Quoted 2 lines · On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 20:45:30 -0600 Ram Ramesh <[email protected]> wrote:

ports are on ASMedia ASM 1061 chipset which apparently is not supported on linux per what I can find on various comments/information from the net

What.

http://superuser.com/questions/363144/is-asmedia-asm1061-sata3-controller-supported-under-linux

Roman,

Thanks. I did see that. But, in newegg, there are reviews dated much
later than above complaining about ubuntu 14.04 installs failing with ASMedia enabled. So, I concluded that it is iffy. I could not see any consistent message of positive result. In fact, the one you quote (Nov 11) is about the only positve I could find. Many others, (more recent), are not that positive. This worried me. Have you used it or some one who you know did and it worked fine? If so, please let me know the linux distro that is successful.

Thanks
Ramesh

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Quoted 4 lines · Ram Ramesh

Thanks. I did see that. But, in newegg, there are reviews dated much
later than above complaining about ubuntu 14.04 installs failing with ASMedia enabled. So, I concluded that it is iffy. I could not see any consistent message of positive result.

I use ASMedia controllers myself, onboard and as standalone card. They were cheap (much cheaper than getting a board with additional ports using the same chipset really) and I don't need the PCIe slots for anything else.

They work fine in AHCI mode for HDD, with mdadm software raid.

If you have a CD drive hooked to it the kernel will crash. Until you add libata.atapi_passthru16=0 to your cmdline.

Regards
Andreas

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Quoted 10 lines · Andreas Klauer
Quoted 4 lines · Ram Ramesh

Thanks. I did see that. But, in newegg, there are reviews dated much
later than above complaining about ubuntu 14.04 installs failing with ASMedia enabled. So, I concluded that it is iffy. I could not see any consistent message of positive result.

I use ASMedia controllers myself, onboard and as standalone card. They were cheap (much cheaper than getting a board with additional ports using the same chipset really) and I don't need the PCIe slots for anything else.

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They work fine in AHCI mode for HDD, with mdadm software raid.

If you have a CD drive hooked to it the kernel will crash. Until you add libata.atapi_passthru16=0 to your cmdline.

Regards
Andreas

Andreas,

Thanks a lot. Now I feel a lot more confident trying out extreme6. I
usually put all my boot related (cd, primary sdd) on intel any way. So, CD drive should not be a problem.

Ramesh

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Quoted 10 lines · Andreas Klauer
Quoted 4 lines · Ram Ramesh

Thanks. I did see that. But, in newegg, there are reviews dated much
later than above complaining about ubuntu 14.04 installs failing with ASMedia enabled. So, I concluded that it is iffy. I could not see any consistent message of positive result.

I use ASMedia controllers myself, onboard and as standalone card. They were cheap (much cheaper than getting a board with additional ports using the same chipset really) and I don't need the PCIe slots for anything else.

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They work fine in AHCI mode for HDD, with mdadm software raid.

If you have a CD drive hooked to it the kernel will crash. Until you add libata.atapi_passthru16=0 to your cmdline.

Regards
Andreas

Andreas

If you don't mind, could you share with me the standalone card that you use?

I used SYBA SI-PEX40064 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124064)
and under load (mkfs.ext4 -c -c on just one drive) it drops the drives and a reboot is required to get them back. This means I cannot put raid component on this without risking degrading the array. I believe SYBA based on Marvell 88SE9215.

BTW, have you stressed your card through a rebuild/checkarray?

Thanks
Ramesh

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Quoted 2 lines · Ram Ramesh

If you don't mind, could you share with me the standalone card that you use?

I think this is the same I use:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PCI-E-Express-SATA3-SATA3-0-6Gb-s-eSATA-SATA-III-Card-ASMEDIA1061-/231378681315

It has two ports, and you can choose between internal and external via 4 jumpers per port.

You also find this Asmedia chipset on a lot of Asus/Asrock mainboards that have two additional SATA ports.

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BTW, have you stressed your card through a rebuild/checkarray?

I run checkarray every day (each day a different part of disk so entire disk is covered in a week or so) with no issue.

I also mirror my single SSD disk to the HDD RAID once a week.

I can run a mkfs.ext4 -c -c on a LVM partition at a later time, but so far no issues whatsoever.

Regards
Andreas Klauer

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Quoted 12 lines · Andreas Klauer
Quoted 2 lines · Ram Ramesh

If you don't mind, could you share with me the standalone card that you use?

I think this is the same I use:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PCI-E-Express-SATA3-SATA3-0-6Gb-s-eSATA-SATA-III-Card-ASMEDIA1061-/231378681315

It has two ports, and you can choose between internal and external via 4 jumpers per port.

You also find this Asmedia chipset on a lot of Asus/Asrock mainboards that have two additional SATA ports.

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BTW, have you stressed your card through a rebuild/checkarray?

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I run checkarray every day (each day a different part of disk so entire disk is covered in a week or so) with no issue.

I also mirror my single SSD disk to the HDD RAID once a week.

I can run a mkfs.ext4 -c -c on a LVM partition at a later time, but so far no issues whatsoever.

Regards
Andreas Klauer

Thanks.

I saw similar one on Amazon too: http://www.amazon.com/Express-Adapter-Converter-ASMEDIA-ASM1061/dp/B008BZAVVE

I am getting asrock extreme6 and that will be enough for the next 6months (eventually I want to have a total of 12). Before that time, I will probably buy the card you have given unless I get nervous about ebay vendor and choose amazon version.

Regards
Ramesh

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Quoting Ram Ramesh <[email protected]>:

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If you don't mind, could you share with me the standalone card that you use?

I think this is the same I use:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PCI-E-Express-SATA3-SATA3-0-6Gb-s-eSATA-SATA-III-Card-ASMEDIA1061-/231378681315

It has two ports, and you can choose between internal and external via 4 jumpers per port.

You also find this Asmedia chipset on a lot of Asus/Asrock mainboards that have two additional SATA ports.

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BTW, have you stressed your card through a rebuild/checkarray?

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I run checkarray every day (each day a different part of disk so entire disk is covered in a week or so) with no issue.

I also mirror my single SSD disk to the HDD RAID once a week.

I can run a mkfs.ext4 -c -c on a LVM partition at a later time, but so far no issues whatsoever.

Regards
Andreas Klauer

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Thanks.

I saw similar one on Amazon too: http://www.amazon.com/Express-Adapter-Converter-ASMEDIA-ASM1061/dp/B008BZAVVE

I am getting asrock extreme6 and that will be enough for the next 6months (eventually I want to have a total of 12). Before that time, I will probably buy the card you have given unless I get nervous about ebay vendor and choose amazon version.

Regards
Rameshn

Hi Ramesh,

Why are you considering only hardware RAID? Software RAID is basically free and you needn't be concerned about board manufacturers going out of business or changing the board BIOS and so on.

Dave

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Quoting Ram Ramesh <[email protected]>:

Quoted 22 lines · Andreas Klauer
Quoted 13 lines · Ram Ramesh
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If you don't mind, could you share with me the standalone card that you use?

I think this is the same I use:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PCI-E-Express-SATA3-SATA3-0-6Gb-s-eSATA-SATA-III-Card-ASMEDIA1061-/231378681315

It has two ports, and you can choose between internal and external via 4 jumpers per port.

You also find this Asmedia chipset on a lot of Asus/Asrock mainboards that have two additional SATA ports.

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BTW, have you stressed your card through a rebuild/checkarray?

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I run checkarray every day (each day a different part of disk so entire disk is covered in a week or so) with no issue.

I also mirror my single SSD disk to the HDD RAID once a week.

I can run a mkfs.ext4 -c -c on a LVM partition at a later time, but so far no issues whatsoever.

Regards
Andreas Klauer

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Thanks.

I saw similar one on Amazon too: http://www.amazon.com/Express-Adapter-Converter-ASMEDIA-ASM1061/dp/B008BZAVVE

I am getting asrock extreme6 and that will be enough for the next 6months (eventually I want to have a total of 12). Before that time, I will probably buy the card you have given unless I get nervous about ebay vendor and choose amazon version.

Regards
Rameshn

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Hi Ramesh,

Why are you considering only hardware RAID? Software RAID is basically free and you needn't be concerned about board manufacturers going out of business or changing the board BIOS and so on.

Dave

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Dave,

Not sure what you mean. I am only talking about mdadm. I just needed
extra sata ports to hook up more drives. None of my
conversation is about hardware raid. I have never used or wanted to have hardware raid.

Ramesh

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All others seem to be X99 or other server chipsets which I am not fond of. I like desktop boards as the server also doubles as mythtv backend/frontend.

I have three of these (1 X79 Sabertooh Tuff and 2 X99 Sabertooth Tuff boards) all running like a champ with Debian. I highly recommend them.

If you want something cheaper, I have one box (rather old) that is an Intel H61M-DS2. So, whatever the current version of that family of boards is. And I have another that is a Biostar T41 HD.

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All others seem to be X99 or other server chipsets which I am not fond of. I like desktop boards as the server also doubles as mythtv backend/frontend.

I have three of these (1 X79 Sabertooh Tuff and 2 X99 Sabertooth Tuff boards) all running like a champ with Debian. I highly recommend them.

If you want something cheaper, I have one box (rather old) that is an Intel H61M-DS2. So, whatever the current version of that family of boards is. And I have another that is a Biostar T41 HD.

Thanks for the suggestion. I have not built any with X99. May be I should try. I will think about it.

Ramesh

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Quoted 6 lines · Ram Ramesh

All,

It is time for my server to be upgraded and I am looking for advice. I
usually build my machine so, I am looking primarily for a motherboard that has several sata ports that is compatible with linux.

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I looked at Asrock extreme6, but apparently it has 4 of its 10 sata ports are on ASMedia ASM 1061 chipset which apparently is not supported on linux per what I can find on various comments/information from the net

All others seem to be X99 or other server chipsets which I am not fond of. I like desktop boards as the server also doubles as mythtv backend/frontend.

I usually use Supermicro MB, for storage server. Lately you can find them for quite reasoneble price, and fully featured for servers.

You'll have to choose carefully, since they've many similar boards, with just minor differences.

bye,

pg

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Let me know if this is the wrong thread and I should ask some where else.

Regards
Ramesh

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