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LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC Ritesh Harjani (IBM) 1 participant 3 messages Feb 24, 2024 – Mar 6, 2024 VFS

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In continuation from last year's efforts on conversion of ext* filesystems to iomap, I would like to propose an LSFMM session on the said topic. Last year's session was mainly centered around documentation discussion around iomap (so that it can help others converting their filesystems to iomap), and I think we now have a kernelnewbies page [1] which can provide good details on how one can start transitioning their filesystem to iomap interface.

Note, ext2/ext4 filesystems direct-io path now utilizes iomap where ext2 DIO conversion happened last year during LSFMM [2] [3]. I have also submitted patches for ext2 buffered-io path for regular files to move to iomap and thereby enabling large folio support to it. Along similar lines there are also patches around EXT4 buffered-io conversion to iomap.

Some of the challenges
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1. For EXT2 directory handling which uses page cache and buffer heads, moving that path to iomap has challenges with writeback path since iomap also uses folio->private to keep some of its internal state (iomap_folio_state).
2. One other thing which was pointed out by Matthew is the BH_Boundary handling currently missing in iomap. This can lead to non-optimized data I/O patterns causing performance penalty.
3. Filesystems need a mechanism to validate cached logical->physical block translations in iomap writeback code (can this be lifted to common code?)
4. Another missing piece from iomap is the metadata handling for filesystems. There is no interface which iomap provides that the FS can utilize to move away from buffer heads for its metadata operations. It can be argued that it is not the responsibility of iomap, however filesystems do need a mechanism for their metadata handling operations.

Proposal
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In this talk I would like to discuss about the efforts, challenges & the lessons learnt in doing the conversion of ext2's DIO and buffered-io paths to iomap, which might help others in conversion of their filesystem. I would also like to have a discussion on the current open challenges we have in converting ext2 (buffered-io path) and discuss on what ideas people have, which we can consider for transitioning ext* and other filesystems to iomap.

PS: As we speak, I am in the process of rebasing ext2 bufferred-io path to latest upstream kernel. It's mostly done and I am also looking into some of the open problems listed by community.

References
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[1]: https://kernelnewbies.org/KernelProjects/iomap
[2]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-ext4/[email protected]/
[3]: https://lwn.net/Articles/935934/
[4]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-ext4/[email protected]/

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"Ritesh Harjani (IBM)" <[email protected]> writes:

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In continuation from last year's efforts on conversion of ext* filesystems to iomap, I would like to propose an LSFMM session on the said topic. Last year's session was mainly centered around documentation discussion around iomap (so that it can help others converting their filesystems to iomap), and I think we now have a kernelnewbies page [1] which can provide good details on how one can start transitioning their filesystem to iomap interface.

Note, ext2/ext4 filesystems direct-io path now utilizes iomap where ext2 DIO conversion happened last year during LSFMM [2] [3]. I have also submitted patches for ext2 buffered-io path for regular files to move to iomap and thereby enabling large folio support to it. Along similar lines there are also patches around EXT4 buffered-io conversion to iomap.

Some of the challenges
=======================
1. For EXT2 directory handling which uses page cache and buffer heads, moving that path to iomap has challenges with writeback path since iomap also uses folio->private to keep some of its internal state (iomap_folio_state).
2. One other thing which was pointed out by Matthew is the BH_Boundary handling currently missing in iomap. This can lead to non-optimized data I/O patterns causing performance penalty.
3. Filesystems need a mechanism to validate cached logical->physical block translations in iomap writeback code (can this be lifted to common code?)
4. Another missing piece from iomap is the metadata handling for filesystems. There is no interface which iomap provides that the FS can utilize to move away from buffer heads for its metadata operations. It can be argued that it is not the responsibility of iomap, however filesystems do need a mechanism for their metadata handling operations.

Proposal
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In this talk I would like to discuss about the efforts, challenges & the lessons learnt in doing the conversion of ext2's DIO and buffered-io paths to iomap, which might help others in conversion of their filesystem. I would also like to have a discussion on the current open challenges we have in converting ext2 (buffered-io path) and discuss on what ideas people have, which we can consider for transitioning ext* and other filesystems to iomap.

PS: As we speak, I am in the process of rebasing ext2 bufferred-io path to latest upstream kernel. It's mostly done and I am also looking into some of the open problems listed by community.

References
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[1]: https://kernelnewbies.org/KernelProjects/iomap
[2]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-ext4/[email protected]/
[3]: https://lwn.net/Articles/935934/
[4]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-ext4/[email protected]/

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"Ritesh Harjani (IBM)" <[email protected]> writes:

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In continuation from last year's efforts on conversion of ext* filesystems to iomap, I would like to propose an LSFMM session on the said topic. Last year's session was mainly centered around documentation discussion around iomap (so that it can help others converting their filesystems to iomap), and I think we now have a kernelnewbies page [1] which can provide good details on how one can start transitioning their filesystem to iomap interface.

Note, ext2/ext4 filesystems direct-io path now utilizes iomap where ext2 DIO conversion happened last year during LSFMM [2] [3]. I have also submitted patches for ext2 buffered-io path for regular files to move to iomap and thereby enabling large folio support to it. Along similar lines there are also patches around EXT4 buffered-io conversion to iomap.

Some of the challenges
=======================
1. For EXT2 directory handling which uses page cache and buffer heads, moving that path to iomap has challenges with writeback path since iomap also uses folio->private to keep some of its internal state (iomap_folio_state).
2. One other thing which was pointed out by Matthew is the BH_Boundary handling currently missing in iomap. This can lead to non-optimized data I/O patterns causing performance penalty.
3. Filesystems need a mechanism to validate cached logical->physical block translations in iomap writeback code (can this be lifted to common code?)
4. Another missing piece from iomap is the metadata handling for filesystems. There is no interface which iomap provides that the FS can utilize to move away from buffer heads for its metadata operations. It can be argued that it is not the responsibility of iomap, however filesystems do need a mechanism for their metadata handling operations.

Proposal
=========
In this talk I would like to discuss about the efforts, challenges & the lessons learnt in doing the conversion of ext2's DIO and buffered-io paths to iomap, which might help others in conversion of their filesystem. I would also like to have a discussion on the current open challenges we have in converting ext2 (buffered-io path) and discuss on what ideas people have, which we can consider for transitioning ext* and other filesystems to iomap.

PS: As we speak, I am in the process of rebasing ext2 bufferred-io path to latest upstream kernel. It's mostly done and I am also looking into some of the open problems listed by community.

I have rebased the RFC over the latest upstream and implemented the seq counter approach that was roughly discussed in the RFC patch here [1]. Please find the latest tree at my github [2], in case if anyone is interested in checking it out.

Currently I am running some tests on this tree as we speak. Post that will look into BH_Boundary problem.

[1]: https://lore.kernel.org/all/[email protected]/
[2]: https://github.com/riteshharjani/linux/commits/ext2-iomap-lsfmm-rfcv2/

-ritesh

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References
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[1]: https://kernelnewbies.org/KernelProjects/iomap
[2]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-ext4/[email protected]/
[3]: https://lwn.net/Articles/935934/
[4]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-ext4/[email protected]/