why the new config process is a *big* step backwards
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[email protected] (Robert P. J. Day) wrote on 13.01.03 in <[email protected]>:
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(apologies to those who are thoroughly sick of this topic, but
i'm now firmly convinced that i don't much care for the new config process, and i'm curious as to whether it's just me.
Answer: probably.)
Probably.
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IMHO, the new config process (and i'll restrict myself to talking
about the graphical "make xconfig" process here) not only doesn't
Hmm. The old xconfig was so unusable I haven't used anything but menuconfig for years ...
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first, the hierarchical structure of the options in the left
window (i'm going to make up names and call these the "menu window", "option window" and "help window") is non-intuitive, in that the top-level selection will bring up a set of selectable options, while submenus will *also* bring up options.example: Power management options. if i select that menu
option explicitly, i get options including APM in the option window. but if i expand that option, i can select the submenu "ACPI Support", for further options. this is confusing -- it's analogous to a directory having files both directly inside it *and* within a sub-structure.
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this is inconsistent with other common things people are
familiar with -- in the pine mailer, for example, you can't use a folder both for storing files *and* for having subfolders. and think about bookmarks in a browser (a model i wish the new config process had followed).
Strange. Filesystems (which everyone should be familiar with) certainly do this, and so does (for example) Pegasus Mail with IMAP folders ...
I think Pine and bookmarks are faulty here. (Especially as in the current Mozilla, you *can* have folders-as-bookmarks but you can't easily switch from one behaviour to the other, plus Mozilla itself sometimes gets confused. Also, Open File insists on files even though Mozilla can handle local directories just fine ...)
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the current design is messy since it suggests that some
options belong strictly to the top level, while others belong to more specialized sub levels.
Well, that's certainly how it always was with menuconfig.
MfG Kai
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this is inconsistent with other common things people are
familiar with -- in the pine mailer, for example, you can't use a folder both for storing files *and* for having subfolders. and think about bookmarks in a browser (a model i wish the new config process had followed).Strange. Filesystems (which everyone should be familiar with)
certainly do this, and so does (for example) Pegasus Mail with IMAP
folders ...I think Pine and bookmarks are faulty here.
Nah. Pine can do folders containing both mail and subfolders just fine.
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dwmw2