hotmail not dealing with ECN
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Quoted 4 lines · James Sutherland
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote:
Except you can't retry without ECN, because DaveM wants to do a Microsoft and force ECN on everyone, whether they like it or not. If ECN is so
No, he just wants them to ignore it like they are supposed to do if they don't know what it is.
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wonderful, why doesn't anybody actually WANT to use it anyway?
Because they are stupid and don't want to take the time and energy to upgrade their systems.
Most ISP's have the generic rule, if it ain't broke, don't fuck with it. Even the mighty microsoft learned just two days ago what happens if you make mistakes changing routing information.
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In article <[email protected]>,
Quoted 4 lines · James Sutherland
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote:
Except you can't retry without ECN, because DaveM wants to do a Microsoft and force ECN on everyone, whether they like it or not. If ECN is so
No, he just wants them to ignore it like they are supposed to do if they don't know what it is.
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wonderful, why doesn't anybody actually WANT to use it anyway?
Because they are stupid and don't want to take the time and energy to upgrade their systems.
Most ISP's have the generic rule, if it ain't broke, don't fuck with it. Even the mighty microsoft learned just two days ago what happens if you make mistakes changing routing information.
No... Microsoft learned, just two days ago, something that has
been part of best practices for over 15 years. Do NOT put all of your DNS servers on the same network! The technical error may have triggered the meltdown but if they had distributed their DNS the way they were suppose to, it would have NOT taken them totally out. It wasn't the technician's mistake. It was the single point of failure (and subsequently the single point of attack). He just triggered it.
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Quoted 7 lines · Michael H. Warfield
No... Microsoft learned, just two days ago, something that has
been part of best practices for over 15 years. Do NOT put all of your DNS servers on the same network! The technical error may have triggered the meltdown but if they had distributed their DNS the way they were suppose to, it would have NOT taken them totally out. It wasn't the technician's mistake. It was the single point of failure (and subsequently the single point of attack). He just triggered it.
Nope, they didn't learn it yet.
Although asking NS pointers from Microsoft's DNS servers shows a set Akamai's DNS servers along with MS' ones, those must be listed at .COM for them to become used...
whois -h whois.internic.net microsoft.com
...
Record last updated on 24-Jan-2001.
Domain servers in listed order:
DNS4.CP.MSFT.NET 207.46.138.11 DNS5.CP.MSFT.NET 207.46.138.12 DNS6.CP.MSFT.NET 207.46.138.20 DNS7.CP.MSFT.NET 207.46.138.21
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