Circuit Level Gateway & Filtering!?
Dear All
I have read some about ISA server from it's documentation. There were
listed some facilities for example Circuit Level and App Level filtering and gateway.
Circuit level filtering and gateway were strange for me. What are
they?
How can I see such capabilities in iptables? How they get mapped in
iptables?
Is iptables sth other than what ip_conntrack_ftp.o mudule do in
Application Layer?
Regards__Radien__
libipq
Hi all,
If I have an application (using libipq) that's waiting for packets, and I want to inspect the payload, will the payload be encrypted in case I use esp/transport with kernel 2.6 (with built-in ipsec)?
Thanks,
Devaraj.
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Dear All
I have read some about ISA server from it's documentation. There were
listed some facilities for example Circuit Level and App Level filtering and gateway.Circuit level filtering and gateway were strange for me. What are
they?
How can I see such capabilities in iptables? How they get mapped in
iptables?Is iptables sth other than what ip_conntrack_ftp.o mudule do in
Application Layer?Regards
__Radien__
Re: libipq
Quoted 4 lines · Devaraj Das
Hi all,
If I have an application (using libipq) that's waiting for packets, and I want to inspect the payload, will the payload be encrypted in case I use esp/transport with kernel 2.6 (with built-in ipsec)?
This depends on which packets you inspect the payload of.
If you inspect the ESP packets, then yes, they will be encrypted under IPsec.
If you inpect the HTTP/FTP/SMTP/whatever packets which come out of the tunnel on the other side, then no, they will not be encrypted (unless, of course, you send ssh or https through your IPsec tunnel).
PS: Please don't quote an irrelevant previous posting, and please start a new thread for a new question.
Regards,
Antony.
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Dear All
I have read some about ISA server from it's documentation. There were
listed some facilities for example Circuit Level and App Level filtering and gateway.Circuit level filtering and gateway were strange for me. What are
they?
These refer to the OSI 7-layer networking model: you have applications at the top (web, email, ftp, ssh), then underneath those you have things like TCP/IP to transfer packets around the Internet (without caring what sort of application data is inside those packets), and then underneath that you have ethernet cables and 802.11 connections etc actually getting the data from one machine to another.
(Yes, this is a huge simplification - look up any reference on OSI 7-layer model for more details, also compare against the TCP 4-layer model).
Circuit level filtering means packet filtering - what netfilter does - in other words you filter packets based on where they've come from and where they're going to (IP addresses), and on *assumptions* about what the TCP/UDP port numbers mean, rather than based on anything that's actually inside the body of the packets (data).
Application level filtering means proxies - software which can understand protocols like http, smtp, pop3, ftp, irc.... and look at the data and commands which are being transferred between machines, then base the filtering decisions on that (as well as IP addresses and hostnames).
Gateway simply refers to a machine which is in the path between your network and the outside world - can mean anything from a simple router with no filtering capabilities to a multi-protocol proxy server with intrusion detection.
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How can I see such capabilities in iptables? How they get mapped in
iptables?
Netfilter (iptables) is a stateful packet filter, and therefore operates at
layers 3/4 of the OSI model - the network layers. It does not meaningfully
operate at layer 7 - the application layer.
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Is iptables sth other than what ip_conntrack_ftp.o mudule do in
Application Layer?
If you want realistic application layer filtering on a linux system you need
proxy applications like sendmail/exim/apache/squid/frox. Netfilter won't do
it for you.
Hope this helps,
Antony.
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