Starting a Wiki for Syzkaller Bug Fixing Resources
Hi there,
Having been on the bug fixing mentorship, I've been collating a bunch of resources that helped me as I was going. I've been thinking that there might be a big gap in resources in where interns might be looking and was keen on trying to put one together. Given the current conversation Greg has brought up about syzkaller bugs needing more attention, I figured this could help fix it if interns are the only ones available for this task.
I think it'd help the kernel mentees current and future sink their teeth quicker into fixing bugs, and less into helping themselves learn what is needed. This appears to be a big gap that would really help if it were filled. Resources are heavily abundant for the Linux kernel, but a good level of curation and maintained resources could help with bug fixing. Resources look old, but are incredibly insightful. I would have skipped looking at these resources given my experience with more modern frameworks and toolkits (which is that it would be best to avoid outdated ones as APIs change very quickly - but this is not the case with the kernel)
I've got links and things but I've been wondering if it made sense to build on the Kernel Mentees or to build a wiki (and host it) on something more modern like github.
I'd love to hear suggestions for how best to go about this, and if anyone would like to contribute to it too.
Thanks,
Esme
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Quoted 22 lines · Esme Xuan Lim
Hi there,
Having been on the bug fixing mentorship, I've been collating a bunch of resources that helped me as I was going. I've been thinking that there might be a big gap in resources in where interns might be looking and was keen on trying to put one together. Given the current conversation Greg has brought up about syzkaller bugs needing more attention, I figured this could help fix it if interns are the only ones available for this task.
I think it'd help the kernel mentees current and future sink their teeth quicker into fixing bugs, and less into helping themselves learn what is needed. This appears to be a big gap that would really help if it were filled. Resources are heavily abundant for the Linux kernel, but a good level of curation and maintained resources could help with bug fixing. Resources look old, but are incredibly insightful. I would have skipped looking at these resources given my experience with more modern frameworks and toolkits (which is that it would be best to avoid outdated ones as APIs change very quickly - but this is not the case with the kernel)
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I've got links and things but I've been wondering if it made sense to build on the Kernel Mentees or to build a wiki (and host it) on something more modern like github.
I'd love to hear suggestions for how best to go about this, and if anyone would like to contribute to it too.
Hi Esme,
I totally agree.
FWIW I am ready to host it at:
https://github.com/google/syzkaller/tree/master/docs/linux
I guess it won't be that much syzkaller-specific, so I don't know how much you want to host it in the syzkaller repo.
Otherwise it would be useful to at least announce on the syzkaller@ mailing list and/or add a link somewhere in the docs.
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Quoted 22 lines · On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 04:50:18 +0800 Esme Xuan Lim <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi there,
Having been on the bug fixing mentorship, I've been collating a bunch of resources that helped me as I was going. I've been thinking that there might be a big gap in resources in where interns might be looking and was keen on trying to put one together. Given the current conversation Greg has brought up about syzkaller bugs needing more attention, I figured this could help fix it if interns are the only ones available for this task.
I think it'd help the kernel mentees current and future sink their teeth quicker into fixing bugs, and less into helping themselves learn what is needed. This appears to be a big gap that would really help if it were filled. Resources are heavily abundant for the Linux kernel, but a good level of curation and maintained resources could help with bug fixing. Resources look old, but are incredibly insightful. I would have skipped looking at these resources given my experience with more modern frameworks and toolkits (which is that it would be best to avoid outdated ones as APIs change very quickly - but this is not the case with the kernel)
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I've got links and things but I've been wondering if it made sense to build on the Kernel Mentees or to build a wiki (and host it) on something more modern like github.
I'd love to hear suggestions for how best to go about this, and if anyone would like to contribute to it too.
I would love to contribute. I've started my blog on:
https://fuzzybritches0.github.io/
If any of these entries I made are helpful, I'd love to help you incorporate them into your wiki. I'd also love to get feedback on these entries. Count me in.
thanks and kind regards
Kurt Manucredo
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Quoted 33 lines · Kurt Manucredo
Quoted 21 lines · On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 04:50:18 +0800 Esme Xuan Lim <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi there,
Having been on the bug fixing mentorship, I've been collating a bunch of resources that helped me as I was going. I've been thinking that there might be a big gap in resources in where interns might be looking and was keen on trying to put one together. Given the current conversation Greg has brought up about syzkaller bugs needing more attention, I figured this could help fix it if interns are the only ones available for this task.
I think it'd help the kernel mentees current and future sink their teeth quicker into fixing bugs, and less into helping themselves learn what is needed. This appears to be a big gap that would really help if it were filled. Resources are heavily abundant for the Linux kernel, but a good level of curation and maintained resources could help with bug fixing. Resources look old, but are incredibly insightful. I would have skipped looking at these resources given my experience with more modern frameworks and toolkits (which is that it would be best to avoid outdated ones as APIs change very quickly - but this is not the case with the kernel)
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I've got links and things but I've been wondering if it made sense to build on the Kernel Mentees or to build a wiki (and host it) on something more modern like github.
I'd love to hear suggestions for how best to go about this, and if anyone would like to contribute to it too.
I would love to contribute. I've started my blog on:
Quoted 8 lines
If any of these entries I made are helpful, I'd love to help you incorporate them into your wiki. I'd also love to get feedback on these entries. Count me in.
thanks and kind regards
Kurt Manucredo
(Resent to the mailing list; first email went only to Kurt - that was a mistake)
Hey Kurt,
If you join the discord, I guess we're having a fairly casual conversation of how things should go. I'm writing up the structure of the wiki at the moment and I'll have it up for pull requests in a bit:)
Thanks
Esme
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Quoted 43 lines · On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 21:55:06 +0800 Esme Xuan Lim <[email protected]> wrote:
Quoted 33 lines · Kurt Manucredo
Quoted 21 lines · On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 04:50:18 +0800 Esme Xuan Lim <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi there,
Having been on the bug fixing mentorship, I've been collating a bunch of resources that helped me as I was going. I've been thinking that there might be a big gap in resources in where interns might be looking and was keen on trying to put one together. Given the current conversation Greg has brought up about syzkaller bugs needing more attention, I figured this could help fix it if interns are the only ones available for this task.
I think it'd help the kernel mentees current and future sink their teeth quicker into fixing bugs, and less into helping themselves learn what is needed. This appears to be a big gap that would really help if it were filled. Resources are heavily abundant for the Linux kernel, but a good level of curation and maintained resources could help with bug fixing. Resources look old, but are incredibly insightful. I would have skipped looking at these resources given my experience with more modern frameworks and toolkits (which is that it would be best to avoid outdated ones as APIs change very quickly - but this is not the case with the kernel)
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I've got links and things but I've been wondering if it made sense to build on the Kernel Mentees or to build a wiki (and host it) on something more modern like github.
I'd love to hear suggestions for how best to go about this, and if anyone would like to contribute to it too.
I would love to contribute. I've started my blog on:
Quoted 8 lines
If any of these entries I made are helpful, I'd love to help you incorporate them into your wiki. I'd also love to get feedback on these entries. Count me in.
thanks and kind regards
Kurt Manucredo
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(Resent to the mailing list; first email went only to Kurt - that was a mistake)
Hey Kurt,
If you join the discord, I guess we're having a fairly casual conversation of how things should go. I'm writing up the structure of the wiki at the moment and I'll have it up for pull requests in a bit:)
I've joined discord and the dedicated channel, my username is fuzzybritches. I hope I'm doing everything right, I'm new to discord.
kind regards
Kurt Manucredo
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