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Bug 218711 [email protected] 2 participants 4 messages Apr 11, 2024 Man-pages: manual pages for Linux -- Sections 2, 3, 4, 5, and 7

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https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=218711

Bug ID: 218711
Summary: strftime man page incorrectly claims that TZ is used
Product: Documentation
Version: unspecified
Hardware: All
OS: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P3
Component: man-pages
Assignee: [email protected]
Reporter: [email protected]
Regression: No

The strftime man page says, in the ENVIRONMENT section, that "The environment variables TZ and LC_TIME are used."

strftime(), in Linux, does not use the TZ environment variable. It is passed a pointer to a struct tm, which contains a time stamp that can reflect either local time or UTC, and formats a string based on the values in that structure. If the structure reflects local time, there is no need for any conversion of POSIX time to local time, so TZ is not used. If the structure reflects UTC, the string will reflect UTC, meaning that, again, there is no need for any conversion to local time, so TZ is not used.

TZ is *indirectly* used, because, to quote the Single UNIX Specification page for strftime(), "Local timezone information is used as though strftime() called tzset().", and, to quote the Single UNIX Specification page for tzset(), "The tzset() function shall use the value of the environment variable TZ to set time conversion information used by ctime, localtime, mktime, and strftime."

The reason why strftime is mentioned is that the %Z format specifier is "Replaced by the timezone name or abbreviation, or by no bytes if no timezone information exists." In systems in which struct tm includes the tm_zone member, %Z can use the tm_zone member as the timezone abbreviation, but, in systems where it does *not* include the tm_zone member, strftime() might, for example, have to fall back on using the tzname[] array and the tm_isdst member to select an element of that array.

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Quoted 33 lines · On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 07:44:43PM +0000, [email protected] wrote:

https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=218711

Bug ID: 218711
Summary: strftime man page incorrectly claims that TZ is used
Product: Documentation
Version: unspecified
Hardware: All
OS: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P3
Component: man-pages
Assignee: [email protected]
Reporter: [email protected]
Regression: No

The strftime man page says, in the ENVIRONMENT section, that "The environment variables TZ and LC_TIME are used."

strftime(), in Linux, does not use the TZ environment variable. It is passed a pointer to a struct tm, which contains a time stamp that can reflect either local time or UTC, and formats a string based on the values in that structure. If the structure reflects local time, there is no need for any conversion of POSIX time to local time, so TZ is not used. If the structure reflects UTC, the string will reflect UTC, meaning that, again, there is no need for any conversion to local time, so TZ is not used.

TZ is *indirectly* used, because, to quote the Single UNIX Specification page for strftime(), "Local timezone information is used as though strftime() called tzset().", and, to quote the Single UNIX Specification page for tzset(), "The tzset() function shall use the value of the environment variable TZ to set time conversion information used by ctime, localtime, mktime, and strftime."

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The reason why strftime is mentioned is that the %Z format specifier is "Replaced by the timezone name or abbreviation, or by no bytes if no timezone information exists." In systems in which struct tm includes the tm_zone member, %Z can use the tm_zone member as the timezone abbreviation, but, in systems where it does *not* include the tm_zone member, strftime() might, for example, have to fall back on using the tzname[] array and the tm_isdst member to select an element of that array.

Hi Guy,

Would you mind sending a patch to the mailing list, according to the guidelines?

<https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/docs/man-pages/man-pages.git/tree/CONTRIBUTING>.
<https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/docs/man-pages/man-pages.git/tree/CONTRIBUTING.d/mail>
<https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/docs/man-pages/man-pages.git/tree/CONTRIBUTING.d/patches>

It would be wise to CC Paul Eggert <[email protected]>.

Have a lovely day!
Alex

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[Bug 218711] strftime man page incorrectly claims that TZ is used

In reply to [email protected]

https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=218711

--- Comment #1 from Alejandro Colomar ([email protected]) ---

Quoted 37 lines · On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 07:44:43PM +0000, [email protected] wrote:

https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=218711

Bug ID: 218711
Summary: strftime man page incorrectly claims that TZ is used
Product: Documentation
Version: unspecified
Hardware: All
OS: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P3
Component: man-pages
Assignee: [email protected]
Reporter: [email protected]
Regression: No

The strftime man page says, in the ENVIRONMENT section, that "The environment variables TZ and LC_TIME are used."

strftime(), in Linux, does not use the TZ environment variable. It is passed a
pointer to a struct tm, which contains a time stamp that can reflect either local time or UTC, and formats a string based on the values in that structure.
If the structure reflects local time, there is no need for any conversion of POSIX time to local time, so TZ is not used. If the structure reflects UTC, the string will reflect UTC, meaning that, again, there is no need for any conversion to local time, so TZ is not used.

TZ is *indirectly* used, because, to quote the Single UNIX Specification page for strftime(), "Local timezone information is used as though strftime() called
tzset().", and, to quote the Single UNIX Specification page for tzset(), "The tzset() function shall use the value of the environment variable TZ to set time
conversion information used by ctime, localtime, mktime, and strftime."

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The reason why strftime is mentioned is that the %Z format specifier is "Replaced by the timezone name or abbreviation, or by no bytes if no timezone information exists." In systems in which struct tm includes the tm_zone member, %Z can use the tm_zone member as the timezone abbreviation, but, in systems where it does *not* include the tm_zone member, strftime() might, for example, have to fall back on using the tzname[] array and the tm_isdst member
to select an element of that array.

Hi Guy,

Would you mind sending a patch to the mailing list, according to the guidelines?

<https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/docs/man-pages/man-pages.git/tree/CONTRIBUTING>.
<https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/docs/man-pages/man-pages.git/tree/CONTRIBUTING.d/mail>
<https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/docs/man-pages/man-pages.git/tree/CONTRIBUTING.d/patches>

It would be wise to CC Paul Eggert <[email protected]>.

Have a lovely day!
Alex

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[Bug 218711] strftime man page incorrectly claims that TZ is used

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--- Comment #2 from Guy Harris ([email protected]) ---

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It would be wise to CC Paul Eggert <[email protected]>.

I'm not sure why, given that the tzdb newstrftime man page doesn't mention TZ. The tzdb strftime() *code* will use tm_zone if the code is configured to support it, falls back on using tzname[] and tm_isdst if tzname[] is present, and otherwise replace %Z with the empty string, so it's only directly affected by the TZ setting if struct tm doesn't contain tm_zone.

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