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RFC PATCH In review Jonathan McDowell 3 participants 7 messages Oct 2, 2024 – Oct 4, 2024

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We have been seeing a large number of TPM transmit problems across our fleet, with frequent

tpm tpm0: tpm_try_transmit: send(): error -62

errors being logged. I don't have an on-demand reproducer, which makes diagnosis difficult. In almost all cases it's a transient issue, and a subsequent attempt to execute a command succeeds, but especially when the kernel resource broker is involved that can still cause problems, as the kernel is not doing retries here. Uptime does not seem to be a factor.

This is not yet using the new HMAC session bits; kernels affected range from at least 6.9 back to 5.12. Historically we've not paid attention to TPMs long after initial boot, these days we're now looking at them throughout the uptime of the machine so perhaps discovering something that's been latent for a while.

I have a few things to try, which I'll describe below, but running through them will take several months due to the difficulties in trying to track the issue down over a production fleet. I'm posting here in case anyone has any insight or ideas I might have missed.

First, I've seen James' post extending the TPM timeouts back in 2018
(https://lore.kernel.org/linux-integrity/[email protected]/),
which doesn't seem to have been picked up. Was an alternative resolution found, or are you still using this, James?

That was for a Nuvoton device; ours our Infineon devices. The behaviour is not firmware specific; we see the problem with the latest 7.85 firmware as well as the older 7.62.

Things we are going to try:

* Direct usage of /dev/tpm0 rather than /dev/tpmrm0. This is not a long term solution as we want multiple processes to be able to access the TPM, but is easier to deploy. The expectation is this will lower the number of issues due to fewer TPM commands being executed, but that this is not the root cause.

* Retrying command submission on status timeout. We've had details of an errata where the status register can become stuck, with the work around being command resubmission. I've got a patch for this ready to test - I'll follow up to this mail with it, but need to actually roll it out and test before I'll submit it for inclusion.

* Instrumenting other timeout points to see if we're hitting a different timeout.

J.

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RFC PATCH 1/1 tpm: Workaround failed command reception on Infineon devices

(I'm still in the process of testing this to confirm it fixes the errata I've seen, but I wanted to send it out for comments to make sure it's a reasonable approach.)

Some Infineon devices have a issue where the status register will get stuck with a quick REQUEST_USE / COMMAND_READY sequence. The work around is to retry the command submission. Add appropriate logic to do this in the send path.

---
 drivers/char/tpm/tpm_tis_core.c | 24 +++++++++++++++++++-----
 drivers/char/tpm/tpm_tis_core.h |  1 +
 include/linux/tpm.h             |  1 +
 3 files changed, 21 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
drivers/char/tpm/tpm_tis_core.c +19 -5
index f6aa0dfadb93..940abd1a868e 100644
@@ -432,16 +432,27 @@ static int tpm_tis_recv(struct tpm_chip *chip, u8 *buf, size_t count)
 static int tpm_tis_send_data(struct tpm_chip *chip, const u8 *buf, size_t len)
 {
 	struct tpm_tis_data *priv = dev_get_drvdata(&chip->dev);
-	int rc, status, burstcnt;
+	int rc, status, burstcnt, retry;
+	bool status_fix = test_bit(TPM_TIS_STATUS_WORKAROUND, &priv->flags);
 	size_t count = 0;
 	bool itpm = test_bit(TPM_TIS_ITPM_WORKAROUND, &priv->flags);
 
 	status = tpm_tis_status(chip);
 	if ((status & TPM_STS_COMMAND_READY) == 0) {
-		tpm_tis_ready(chip);
-		if (wait_for_tpm_stat
-		    (chip, TPM_STS_COMMAND_READY, chip->timeout_b,
-		     &priv->int_queue, false) < 0) {
+		retry = status_fix ? 3 : 1;
+
+		while (retry > 0) {
+			tpm_tis_ready(chip);
+			if (wait_for_tpm_stat
+			    (chip, TPM_STS_COMMAND_READY, chip->timeout_b,
+			     &priv->int_queue, false) >= 0) {
+				break;
+			}
+
+			retry--;
+		}
+
+		if (retry == 0) {
 			rc = -ETIME;
 			goto out_err;
 		}
@@ -1147,6 +1158,9 @@ int tpm_tis_core_init(struct device *dev, struct tpm_tis_data *priv, int irq,
 		priv->timeout_max = TIS_TIMEOUT_MAX_ATML;
 	}
 
+	if (priv->manufacturer_id == TPM_VID_IFX)
+		set_bit(TPM_TIS_STATUS_WORKAROUND, &priv->flags);
+
 	if (is_bsw()) {
 		priv->ilb_base_addr = ioremap(INTEL_LEGACY_BLK_BASE_ADDR,
 					ILB_REMAP_SIZE);
drivers/char/tpm/tpm_tis_core.h +1 -0
index 13e99cf65efe..f888da57535d 100644
@@ -89,6 +89,7 @@ enum tpm_tis_flags {
 	TPM_TIS_INVALID_STATUS		= 1,
 	TPM_TIS_DEFAULT_CANCELLATION	= 2,
 	TPM_TIS_IRQ_TESTED		= 3,
+	TPM_TIS_STATUS_WORKAROUND	= 4,
 };
 
 struct tpm_tis_data {
include/linux/tpm.h +1 -0
index 4ee9d13749ad..5f4998626a98 100644
@@ -272,6 +272,7 @@ enum tpm2_cc_attrs {
 #define TPM_VID_WINBOND  0x1050
 #define TPM_VID_STM      0x104A
 #define TPM_VID_ATML     0x1114
+#define TPM_VID_IFX      0x15D1
 
 enum tpm_chip_flags {
 	TPM_CHIP_FLAG_BOOTSTRAPPED		= BIT(0),
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Re: [RFC PATCH] tpm: Workaround failed command reception on Infineon devices

Quoted 6 lines · Jonathan McDowell

(I'm still in the process of testing this to confirm it fixes the errata I've seen, but I wanted to send it out for comments to make sure it's a reasonable approach.)

Some Infineon devices have a issue where the status register will get stuck with a quick REQUEST_USE / COMMAND_READY sequence. The work around

Did you tell Infineon about it? Maybe they should have a look at their firmware.

What are the TPMs in your fleet doing? I heared that some TPMs pre-create keys in the background once users requested a few. I would try to create a few primary keys with different combination of key flags set and in different hierarchies (and flush them) to use up these precreated keys and see whether that leads to any issues with the TIS responsiveness once presumably the device starts creating keys in the background...

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is to retry the command submission. Add appropriate logic to do this in

I would describe it as 'retrying to set the TPM_STS_COMMAND_READY flag on the TIS STS register' because you are not retring a (TPM) command submission, like resubmitting a TPM2_PCR_Extend for example.

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the send path.

---
  drivers/char/tpm/tpm_tis_core.c | 24 +++++++++++++++++++-----
  drivers/char/tpm/tpm_tis_core.h |  1 +
  include/linux/tpm.h             |  1 +
  3 files changed, 21 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
drivers/char/tpm/tpm_tis_core.c +0 -0
index f6aa0dfadb93..940abd1a868e 100644

drivers/char/tpm/tpm_tis_core.c static int tpm_tis_recv(struct tpm_chip *chip, u8 *buf, size_t count) · line 436

Quoted 6 lines
drivers/char/tpm/tpm_tis_core.c +2 -1
@@ -432,16 +432,27 @@ static int tpm_tis_recv(struct tpm_chip *chip, u8 *buf, size_t count)
  static int tpm_tis_send_data(struct tpm_chip *chip, const u8 *buf, size_t len)
  {
  	struct tpm_tis_data *priv = dev_get_drvdata(&chip->dev);
-	int rc, status, burstcnt;
+	int rc, status, burstcnt, retry;
+	bool status_fix = test_bit(TPM_TIS_STATUS_WORKAROUND, &priv->flags);

This should probably be moved to the top.
int retry = status_fix ? 3 : 1;

Quoted 60 lines
drivers/char/tpm/tpm_tis_core.c +17 -4
  	size_t count = 0;
  	bool itpm = test_bit(TPM_TIS_ITPM_WORKAROUND, &priv->flags);
 
  	status = tpm_tis_status(chip);
  	if ((status & TPM_STS_COMMAND_READY) == 0) {
-		tpm_tis_ready(chip);
-		if (wait_for_tpm_stat
-		    (chip, TPM_STS_COMMAND_READY, chip->timeout_b,
-		     &priv->int_queue, false) < 0) {
+		retry = status_fix ? 3 : 1;
+
+		while (retry > 0) {
+			tpm_tis_ready(chip);
+			if (wait_for_tpm_stat
+			    (chip, TPM_STS_COMMAND_READY, chip->timeout_b,
+			     &priv->int_queue, false) >= 0) {
+				break;
+			}
+
+			retry--;
+		}
+
+		if (retry == 0) {
  			rc = -ETIME;
  			goto out_err;
  		}
@@ -1147,6 +1158,9 @@ int tpm_tis_core_init(struct device *dev, struct tpm_tis_data *priv, int irq,
  		priv->timeout_max = TIS_TIMEOUT_MAX_ATML;
  	}
 
+	if (priv->manufacturer_id == TPM_VID_IFX)
+		set_bit(TPM_TIS_STATUS_WORKAROUND, &priv->flags);
+
  	if (is_bsw()) {
  		priv->ilb_base_addr = ioremap(INTEL_LEGACY_BLK_BASE_ADDR,
  					ILB_REMAP_SIZE);
drivers/char/tpm/tpm_tis_core.h +1 -0
index 13e99cf65efe..f888da57535d 100644
@@ -89,6 +89,7 @@ enum tpm_tis_flags {
  	TPM_TIS_INVALID_STATUS		= 1,
  	TPM_TIS_DEFAULT_CANCELLATION	= 2,
  	TPM_TIS_IRQ_TESTED		= 3,
+	TPM_TIS_STATUS_WORKAROUND	= 4,
  };
 
  struct tpm_tis_data {
include/linux/tpm.h +1 -0
index 4ee9d13749ad..5f4998626a98 100644
@@ -272,6 +272,7 @@ enum tpm2_cc_attrs {
  #define TPM_VID_WINBOND  0x1050
  #define TPM_VID_STM      0x104A
  #define TPM_VID_ATML     0x1114
+#define TPM_VID_IFX      0x15D1
 
  enum tpm_chip_flags {
  	TPM_CHIP_FLAG_BOOTSTRAPPED		= BIT(0),
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Re: [RFC PATCH] tpm: Workaround failed command reception on Infineon devices

Quoted 7 lines · Stefan Berger
Quoted 4 lines · Jonathan McDowell

(I'm still in the process of testing this to confirm it fixes the errata I've seen, but I wanted to send it out for comments to make sure it's a reasonable approach.)

Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 2 lines

Some Infineon devices have a issue where the status register will get stuck with a quick REQUEST_USE / COMMAND_READY sequence. The work around

Did you tell Infineon about it? Maybe they should have a look at their firmware.

What are the TPMs in your fleet doing? I heared that some TPMs pre-create keys in the background once users requested a few. I would try to create a few primary keys with different combination of key flags

Actually make this child keys of primary keys:

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tsscreateprimary

Handle 80000000

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while :; do time tsscreate -hp 80000000 -si -opem pubkey.pem ; cat pubkey.pem; done

This should give a different key every time and maybe key creation time goes up at some point...

Quoted 91 lines

set and in different hierarchies (and flush them) to use up these precreated  keys and see whether that leads to any issues with the TIS responsiveness once presumably the device starts creating keys in the background...

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is to retry the command submission. Add appropriate logic to do this in

I would describe it as 'retrying to set the TPM_STS_COMMAND_READY flag on the TIS STS register' because you are not retring a (TPM) command submission, like resubmitting a TPM2_PCR_Extend for example.

Quoted 14 lines

the send path.

---
  drivers/char/tpm/tpm_tis_core.c | 24 +++++++++++++++++++----- drivers/char/tpm/tpm_tis_core.h |  1 + include/linux/tpm.h             |  1 +

  3 files changed, 21 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
drivers/char/tpm/tpm_tis_core.c +0 -0
index f6aa0dfadb93..940abd1a868e 100644

drivers/char/tpm/tpm_tis_core.c static int tpm_tis_recv(struct tpm_chip *chip, · line 437

Quoted 7 lines
drivers/char/tpm/tpm_tis_core.c +2 -1
@@ -432,16 +432,27 @@ static int tpm_tis_recv(struct tpm_chip *chip, 
 u8 *buf, size_t count)
   static int tpm_tis_send_data(struct tpm_chip *chip, const u8 *buf, size_t len)
   {
       struct tpm_tis_data *priv = dev_get_drvdata(&chip->dev);
-    int rc, status, burstcnt;
+    int rc, status, burstcnt, retry;
+    bool status_fix = test_bit(TPM_TIS_STATUS_WORKAROUND, &priv->flags);

This should probably be moved to the top.
int retry = status_fix ? 3 : 1;

Quoted 57 lines
drivers/char/tpm/tpm_tis_core.c +17 -4
       size_t count = 0;
       bool itpm = test_bit(TPM_TIS_ITPM_WORKAROUND, &priv->flags);
       status = tpm_tis_status(chip);
       if ((status & TPM_STS_COMMAND_READY) == 0) {
-        tpm_tis_ready(chip);
-        if (wait_for_tpm_stat
-            (chip, TPM_STS_COMMAND_READY, chip->timeout_b,
-             &priv->int_queue, false) < 0) {
+        retry = status_fix ? 3 : 1;
+
+        while (retry > 0) {
+            tpm_tis_ready(chip);
+            if (wait_for_tpm_stat
+                (chip, TPM_STS_COMMAND_READY, chip->timeout_b,
+                 &priv->int_queue, false) >= 0) {
+                break;
+            }
+
+            retry--;
+        }
+
+        if (retry == 0) {
               rc = -ETIME;
               goto out_err;
           }
@@ -1147,6 +1158,9 @@ int tpm_tis_core_init(struct device *dev, struct 
 tpm_tis_data *priv, int irq,
           priv->timeout_max = TIS_TIMEOUT_MAX_ATML;
       }
+    if (priv->manufacturer_id == TPM_VID_IFX)
+        set_bit(TPM_TIS_STATUS_WORKAROUND, &priv->flags);
+
       if (is_bsw()) {
           priv->ilb_base_addr = ioremap(INTEL_LEGACY_BLK_BASE_ADDR,
                       ILB_REMAP_SIZE);
drivers/char/tpm/tpm_tis_core.h +1 -0
index 13e99cf65efe..f888da57535d 100644
@@ -89,6 +89,7 @@ enum tpm_tis_flags {
       TPM_TIS_INVALID_STATUS        = 1,
       TPM_TIS_DEFAULT_CANCELLATION    = 2,
       TPM_TIS_IRQ_TESTED        = 3,
+    TPM_TIS_STATUS_WORKAROUND    = 4,
   };
   struct tpm_tis_data {
include/linux/tpm.h +1 -0
index 4ee9d13749ad..5f4998626a98 100644
@@ -272,6 +272,7 @@ enum tpm2_cc_attrs {
   #define TPM_VID_WINBOND  0x1050
   #define TPM_VID_STM      0x104A
   #define TPM_VID_ATML     0x1114
+#define TPM_VID_IFX      0x15D1
   enum tpm_chip_flags {
       TPM_CHIP_FLAG_BOOTSTRAPPED        = BIT(0),
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Re: [RFC PATCH] tpm: Workaround failed command reception on Infineon devices

Quoted 11 lines · Stefan Berger
Quoted 10 lines · Stefan Berger
Quoted 6 lines · Jonathan McDowell

(I'm still in the process of testing this to confirm it fixes the errata I've seen, but I wanted to send it out for comments to make sure it's a reasonable approach.)

Some Infineon devices have a issue where the status register will get stuck with a quick REQUEST_USE / COMMAND_READY sequence. The work around

Did you tell Infineon about it? Maybe they should have a look at their firmware.

I'm in contact with Infineon, and have their errata under NDA.

Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 3 lines

What are the TPMs in your fleet doing? I heared that some TPMs pre-create keys in the background once users requested a few. I would try to create a few primary keys with different combination of key flags

Actually make this child keys of primary keys:

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Quoted 1 line

tsscreateprimary

Handle 80000000

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while :; do time tsscreate -hp 80000000 -si -opem pubkey.pem ; cat

pubkey.pem; done

This should give a different key every time and maybe key creation time goes up at some point...

We're doing a TPM2_CC_CREATE, but as part of a "seal" operation for some data, rather than full asymmetric key creation. So I don't think this is likely to be the cause, but it's given me the idea to see if we are seeing a spike on a particular command - maybe there's something that's close to the edge on timings that is occasionally going over. Playing around with bpftrace seems to give useful data so I'll need to investigate if I can deploy that to do some monitoring.

Our monitoring is running hourly and does the following TPM2 operations (including the in kernel context switching):

TPM2_CC_SELF_TEST
TPM2_CC_GET_CAPABILITY
TPM2_CC_READ_PUBLIC
TPM2_CC_READ_PUBLIC
TPM2_CC_CREATE
TPM2_CC_LOAD
TPM2_CC_CONTEXT_SAVE
TPM2_CC_FLUSH_CONTEXT
TPM2_CC_CONTEXT_LOAD
TPM2_CC_UNSEAL
TPM2_CC_CONTEXT_SAVE
TPM2_CC_FLUSH_CONTEXT
TPM2_CC_CONTEXT_LOAD
TPM2_CC_FLUSH_CONTEXT
TPM2_CC_CONTEXT_SAVE
TPM2_CC_READ_CLOCK
TPM2_CC_GET_CAPABILITY
TPM2_CC_GET_CAPABILITY
TPM2_CC_GET_CAPABILITY
TPM2_CC_GET_CAPABILITY
TPM2_CC_GET_CAPABILITY
TPM2_CC_GET_CAPABILITY
TPM2_CC_READ_PUBLIC

J.

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In reply to Jonathan McDowell

On Wed, 2024-10-02 at 18:03 +0100, Jonathan McDowell wrote:
[...]

Quoted 5 lines

First, I've seen James' post extending the TPM timeouts back in 2018 (
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-integrity/1531329074.3260.9.camel@Hansen
Partnership.com/), which doesn't seem to have been picked up. Was an alternative resolution found, or are you still using this, James?

No, because I've got a newer laptop. The problem was seen on a 2015 XPS-13 with a Nuvoton TPM that was software upgraded to 2.0 (and had several other problems because of this). I assumed, based on the lack of reports from others, that this was a problem specific to my TPM and so didn't push it.

The annoying thing for me was that the TPM didn't seem to recover. Once it started giving timeouts it carried on timing out until machine reset, which really caused problems because all my keys are TPM resident.

Is yours a permanent problem like mine, or is it transient (TPM recovers and comes back)?

Regards,

James

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Quoted 8 lines · James Bottomley

On Wed, 2024-10-02 at 18:03 +0100, Jonathan McDowell wrote:
[...]

Quoted 5 lines

First, I've seen James' post extending the TPM timeouts back in 2018 (
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-integrity/1531329074.3260.9.camel@Hansen
Partnership.com/), which doesn't seem to have been picked up. Was an alternative resolution found, or are you still using this, James?

Quoted 5 lines

No, because I've got a newer laptop. The problem was seen on a 2015 XPS-13 with a Nuvoton TPM that was software upgraded to 2.0 (and had several other problems because of this). I assumed, based on the lack of reports from others, that this was a problem specific to my TPM and so didn't push it.

Yes, there's somewhat a lack of reports of TPM issues but I can't tell if that's because people aren't using them in anger, or if they're just not having any issues.

This is seen across thousands of machines, so it's not a specific TPM issue.

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The annoying thing for me was that the TPM didn't seem to recover. Once it started giving timeouts it carried on timing out until machine reset, which really caused problems because all my keys are TPM resident.

Is yours a permanent problem like mine, or is it transient (TPM recovers and comes back)?

Ah. So the problem I've described is transient; we get a timeout, that sometimes causes problems (e.g. the transient space leakage I've previously sent a patch for), but ultimately the TPM responds just fine next time.

We _do_ have a separate issue where the TPM returns 0xFFFF for STS, the kernel does the "invalid TPM_STS.x" with stack thing, then the TPM never responds to a command again until a machine reboot. However in that instance it _does_ still respond to reading the TPM_DID_VID register, and allowing entering/leaving locality, so that looks like it's firmly a TPM problem of some sort.

J.

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