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Quoted 7 lines · Andrew Gierth
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"Erik" == Erik Hensema <[email protected]> writes:
Erik> a newsgroup fed by a mail2news gateway.
I don't personally consider that the fact that a group is gatewayed from a mailing list to be significant when deciding how to apply Usenet policies to it.
Maybe think of the mailing list as a moderator that's permitted to approve binaries and only cancel binaries that were posted directly to the group rather than going through the list? That would seem to avoid any problems with deleting legitimate traffic.
If people start flooding the list with binaries, I'm sure that will be dealt with quite promptly, before Usenet even notices.
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Russ Allbery ([email protected]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
In article <[email protected]>, Russ Allbery <[email protected]> wrote:
| Andrew Gierth <[email protected]> writes:
| > I don't personally consider that the fact that a group is gatewayed | > from a mailing list to be significant when deciding how to apply Usenet | > policies to it. | | Maybe think of the mailing list as a moderator that's permitted to approve | binaries and only cancel binaries that were posted directly to the group | rather than going through the list? That would seem to avoid any problems | with deleting legitimate traffic. | | If people start flooding the list with binaries, I'm sure that will be | dealt with quite promptly, before Usenet even notices.
Agreed. I gateway the list to an internal group just because the news tools seem to be better than the mail tools for this. The filters in the m/l should keep out problems.
I have no idea what the news2mail gateway is on the open net, I have marked it moderated and ship everything back to the list address.
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Quoted 6 lines · Jeff Garzik
Why bother? I thought use of Usenet was deprecated...
Jeff
I read the LKML at news:fa.linux.kernel since4 years, without problems (no full mailbox box during vacations :-), and the headers are unchanged, so the private reply are allowed)
ciao
giacomo
PS: fa 'domain' is USENET?
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Quoted 3 lines · Giacomo Catenazzi
I read the LKML at news:fa.linux.kernel since4 years, without problems (no full mailbox box during vacations :-), and the headers are unchanged, so the private reply are allowed)
The big problem is when multiple gateways to news exist in multiple hierarchies. News servers accept a certain message only once - and the only thing that is looked at is the message-id.
So if your news server gets fa.linux.kernel and linux.kernel, half of the articles will end up in the first group and half of the articles in the second.
That's why it's not a good idea anymore to read linux-kernel etc mailinglists through news, you'll miss a lot of articles. Unless you do the gatewaying yourself and have enough of a clue to prevent the above scenario.
Mike (reading this with 'trn' in the /local/ lists.linux.kernel group).
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