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#0 lore raw

Hi, I'm trying out MIDI 2.0 and found a problem, when using snd_seq_set_client_midi_version

With SND_SEQ_CLIENT_LEGACY_MIDI I get the following sequence of events when connecting a midi device (using the method snd_seq_event_input or snd_seq_ump_event_input) (timidity command:timidity --interface=A --buffer-fragments=2,8 --output-mode=s1l --sampling-freq=44100):

SND_SEQ_EVENT_CLIENT_START
SND_SEQ_EVENT_PORT_START
SND_SEQ_EVENT_PORT_START
SND_SEQ_EVENT_PORT_START
SND_SEQ_EVENT_PORT_START

But with SND_SEQ_CLIENT_UMP_MIDI_1_0 and SND_SEQ_CLIENT_UMP_MIDI_2_0 I don't get the SND_SEQ_EVENT_PORT_START events, I only get the following:

SND_SEQ_EVENT_CLIENT_START
SND_SEQ_EVENT_SYSTEM
SND_SEQ_EVENT_SYSTEM
SND_SEQ_EVENT_SYSTEM

I don't know if I'm asking this in the right place, what mistake am I making? Just by modifying that it stops working.

#1 lore raw
Quoted 19 lines · Correo Alternativo

Hi, I'm trying out MIDI 2.0 and found a problem, when using snd_seq_set_client_midi_version

With SND_SEQ_CLIENT_LEGACY_MIDI I get the following sequence of events when connecting a midi device (using the method snd_seq_event_input or snd_seq_ump_event_input) (timidity command:timidity --interface=A --buffer-fragments=2,8 --output-mode=s1l --sampling-freq=44100):

SND_SEQ_EVENT_CLIENT_START
SND_SEQ_EVENT_PORT_START
SND_SEQ_EVENT_PORT_START
SND_SEQ_EVENT_PORT_START
SND_SEQ_EVENT_PORT_START

But with SND_SEQ_CLIENT_UMP_MIDI_1_0 and SND_SEQ_CLIENT_UMP_MIDI_2_0 I don't get the SND_SEQ_EVENT_PORT_START events, I only get the following:

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SND_SEQ_EVENT_CLIENT_START
SND_SEQ_EVENT_SYSTEM
SND_SEQ_EVENT_SYSTEM
SND_SEQ_EVENT_SYSTEM

I don't know if I'm asking this in the right place, what mistake am I making? Just by modifying that it stops working.

Hmm, there should be no difference in this regard between the legacy and UMP clients.

Do you mean that the destination client (i.e. timidity) doesn't receive *_PORT_START events when you send from a UMP client? Or how is the actual setup and the connection?

thanks,

Takashi

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#2 lore raw

Possible bug with snd_seq_event_input_pending

In reply to Correo Alternativo

Hi, I don't know if this is a bug or not, but I'll report it in case it is.

If I configure my client as follows:

snd_seq_set_client_midi_version(seq, SND_SEQ_CLIENT_LEGACY_MIDI);

snd_seq_set_client_ump_conversion(seq, 0);//I disable ump conversion

And then I send a midi event from a MIDI 2.0 device, the snd_seq_event_input_pending(seq, 1) function will not respond until it receives any other legacy event.

Now I know that with SND_SEQ_CLIENT_LEGACY_MIDI I shouldn't disable ump conversion, but I expected it to return 0.

Thank you

#3 lore raw

Re: Possible bug with snd_seq_event_input_pending

Quoted 7 lines · Carlos

Hi, I don't know if this is a bug or not, but I'll report it in case it is.

If I configure my client as follows:

snd_seq_set_client_midi_version(seq, SND_SEQ_CLIENT_LEGACY_MIDI);

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snd_seq_set_client_ump_conversion(seq, 0);//I disable ump conversion

And then I send a midi event from a MIDI 2.0 device, the snd_seq_event_input_pending(seq, 1) function will not respond until it receives any other legacy event.

Now I know that with SND_SEQ_CLIENT_LEGACY_MIDI I shouldn't disable ump conversion, but I expected it to return 0.

This can be indeed a problem in the kernel side. It shouldn't deliver the UMP events if the destination can't handle it.

Could you try the patch below?

thanks,

Takashi

-- 8< --
From: Takashi Iwai <[email protected]>
Subject: [PATCH] ALSA: seq: Drop UMP events when no UMP-conversion is set

When a destination client is a user client in the legacy MIDI mode and it sets the no-UMP-conversion flag, currently the all UMP events are still passed as-is. But this may confuse the user-space, because the event packet size is different from the legacy mode.

Since we cannot handle UMP events in user clients unless it's running in the UMP client mode, we should filter out those events instead of accepting blindly. This patch addresses it by slightly adjusting the conditions for UMP event handling at the event delivery time.

Fixes 329ffe11a014 ("ALSA: seq: Allow suppressing UMP conversions")
---
 sound/core/seq/seq_clientmgr.c | 12 +++++++++---
 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
sound/core/seq/seq_clientmgr.c +9 -3
index 073b56dc2225..cb66ec42a3f8 100644
@@ -678,12 +678,18 @@ static int snd_seq_deliver_single_event(struct snd_seq_client *client,
 					  dest_port->time_real);
 
 #if IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_SND_SEQ_UMP)
-	if (!(dest->filter & SNDRV_SEQ_FILTER_NO_CONVERT)) {
-		if (snd_seq_ev_is_ump(event)) {
+	if (snd_seq_ev_is_ump(event)) {
+		if (!(dest->filter & SNDRV_SEQ_FILTER_NO_CONVERT)) {
 			result = snd_seq_deliver_from_ump(client, dest, dest_port,
 							  event, atomic, hop);
 			goto __skip;
-		} else if (snd_seq_client_is_ump(dest)) {
+		} else if (dest->type == USER_CLIENT &&
+			   !snd_seq_client_is_ump(dest)) {
+			result = 0; // drop the event
+			goto __skip;
+		}
+	} else if (snd_seq_client_is_ump(dest)) {
+		if (!(dest->filter & SNDRV_SEQ_FILTER_NO_CONVERT)) {
 			result = snd_seq_deliver_to_ump(client, dest, dest_port,
 							event, atomic, hop);
 			goto __skip;
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