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My mail server has been working without a glitch for a number of months. All of a sudden it won't receive messages from the Internet. Local mail within my network is still received. Our ISP is under new management - so maybe its not a problem with my system!

I'm able to access my webpage OK over the net at http://www.mydomain.com.au.

Could somebody let me know whether there's a problem with my config, or is there a problem with my ISP?

Below is a description of my setup:

OS: Slackware 9.0
Sendmail 8.12.9
Firewall: only port 25 open to receive mail
I access my mail with Squirrelmail and IMAP2

If I telnet to my mail server from a dialup, everything looks OK (I've substituted my address with a fictitious one):
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# telnet myserver.com.au 25
220 myserver.com.au ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.9/8.12.9; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 07:34:58
+1000
helo 63.60.42.226
250 myserver.com.au Hello 1Cust226.tnt3.cbr2.da.uu.net [63.60.42.226],
pleased to meet you
mail from: [email protected]
250 2.1.0 [email protected]... Sender ok
rcpt to: [email protected]
250 2.1.5 [email protected] ... Recipient ok
data
354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself
this is a test
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#1 lore raw
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My mail server has been working without a glitch for a number of months. All of a sudden it won't receive messages from the Internet. Local mail within my network is still received. Our ISP is under new management - so maybe its not a problem with my system!

I'm able to access my webpage OK over the net at http://www.mydomain.com.au.

Could somebody let me know whether there's a problem with my config, or is there a problem with my ISP?

How? You don't give us any meaningful information about either your ISP or your "config". You don't even say what the failures look like from the remote end.

Does ALL external mail not arrive, or just some sites (could be an auth issue if only some sites fail)?

If you bypass your usual remote-access methods anh just use vi to look at the mail spool file, are the messages still missing?

Are there any differences between the addressing of the local and remote mails? I mean something that might cause sendmail to think it is being asked to act as a relay when off-site mail comes in? Since you obfuscated at least some of the info in your test below, I can't infer anything from it about address issues.

The obvious thing to try as a test is telnet'ing to port 25 on your server from a comparably (to the e-mail failures) remote site (one outside your ISP's address block). Since you "substituted my address with a fictitious one", I cannot do that test for you,nor can anyone else here. But if that is the test you describe below as "telnet to my mail server from a dialup" (that is, if the "dialup" is from a different ISP), then you might complete the report of its results. After you complete the e-mail with the specified "." only line, what happens? Does the message go through?

Since you mention an ISP management change, the possibility that your ISP now blocks port-25 connections that bypass their e-mail relays is a real one in principle, but hard to reconcile with the test you report below (but since I don't know where the "dialup" is relative to your server, I can't be sure of anything).

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Below is a description of my setup:

OS: Slackware 9.0
Sendmail 8.12.9
Firewall: only port 25 open to receive mail
I access my mail with Squirrelmail and IMAP2

If I telnet to my mail server from a dialup, everything looks OK (I've substituted my address with a fictitious one):
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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# telnet myserver.com.au 25
220 myserver.com.au ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.9/8.12.9; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 07:34:58
+1000
helo 63.60.42.226
250 myserver.com.au Hello 1Cust226.tnt3.cbr2.da.uu.net [63.60.42.226],
pleased to meet you
mail from: [email protected]
250 2.1.0 [email protected]... Sender ok
rcpt to: [email protected]
250 2.1.5 [email protected] ... Recipient ok
data
354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself
this is a test
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"Ray Olszewski" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:5.1.0.14.1.20030826070427.01f0a9f0@celine...

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My mail server has been working without a glitch for a number of months. All of a sudden it won't receive messages from the Internet. Local mail within my network is still received. Our ISP is under new management -

so

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maybe its not a problem with my system!

I'm able to access my webpage OK over the net at

http://www.mydomain.com.au.

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Could somebody let me know whether there's a problem with my config, or

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there a problem with my ISP?

How? You don't give us any meaningful information about either your ISP or your "config". You don't even say what the failures look like from the remote end.

I get no acknowlegdement of failures from the remote end. There is no evidence that a message has ever been sent.

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Does ALL external mail not arrive, or just some sites (could be an auth issue if only some sites fail)?

If you bypass your usual remote-access methods anh just use vi to look at the mail spool file, are the messages still missing?

There is no record of the messages arriving in the mail spool or in the /var/log/maillog

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Are there any differences between the addressing of the local and remote mails? I mean something that might cause sendmail to think it is being asked to act as a relay when off-site mail comes in? Since you obfuscated at least some of the info in your test below, I can't infer anything from it about address issues.

Presumably if my server thought it was being asked to act as a relay it would leave messages in /var/log/maillog

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The obvious thing to try as a test is telnet'ing to port 25 on your server from a comparably (to the e-mail failures) remote site (one outside your ISP's address block). Since you "substituted my address with a fictitious one", I cannot do that test for you,nor can anyone else here. But if that is the test you describe below as "telnet to my mail server from a dialup" (that is, if the "dialup" is from a different ISP), then you might

complete

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the report of its results. After you complete the e-mail with the

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"." only line, what happens? Does the message go through?

The message does go through fine when I telnet port 25. I hope you don't mind - I've emailed you my server address. I'd be very grateful if you could run some tests. I'm too paranoid about spam to put my server address on this newsgroup.

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Since you mention an ISP management change, the possibility that your ISP now blocks port-25 connections that bypass their e-mail relays is a real one in principle, but hard to reconcile with the test you report below

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since I don't know where the "dialup" is relative to your server, I can't be sure of anything).

The dialup is from a completely different ISP.

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Below is a description of my setup:

OS: Slackware 9.0
Sendmail 8.12.9
Firewall: only port 25 open to receive mail
I access my mail with Squirrelmail and IMAP2

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If I telnet to my mail server from a dialup, everything looks OK (I've substituted my address with a fictitious one):

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# telnet myserver.com.au 25
220 myserver.com.au ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.9/8.12.9; Tue, 26 Aug 2003

07:34:58

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+1000
helo 63.60.42.226
250 myserver.com.au Hello 1Cust226.tnt3.cbr2.da.uu.net [63.60.42.226], pleased to meet you
mail from: [email protected]
250 2.1.0 [email protected]... Sender ok
rcpt to: [email protected]
250 2.1.5 [email protected] ... Recipient ok
data
354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself
this is a test

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OK, Robert, here's the deal.

1. A message sent directly to robert@[yourdomain].com.au ... I'm keeping the real name of [yourdomain] confidential at your request ... appears from this end to go out. It's not in the mailq on my MTA server.

2. If I telnet to the MTA actually running at [yourdomain].com.au, I appear to be able to send a message from here to robert@[yourdomain].com.au .

You might let me know which, if either, of those messages actually arrives.

But ...

3. If I run the command "host -t MX [yourdomain].com.au", I get 3 results, none of which is the server [yourdomain].com.au ... all 3 are [something].iinet.net.au ... your ISP, I assume. This means that ordinary off-site e-mail will be sent to one of those servers, not yours. Only God and your ISP know what happens to it after that. This is probably your problem.

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"Ray Olszewski" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:5.1.0.14.1.20030826070427.01f0a9f0@celine...

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My mail server has been working without a glitch for a number of months. All of a sudden it won't receive messages from the Internet. Local mail within my network is still received. Our ISP is under new management -

so

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maybe its not a problem with my system!

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OK, Robert, here's the deal.

1. A message sent directly to robert@[yourdomain].com.au ... I'm keeping the real name of [yourdomain] confidential at your request ... appears

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this end to go out. It's not in the mailq on my MTA server.

2. If I telnet to the MTA actually running at [yourdomain].com.au, I

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to be able to send a message from here to robert@[yourdomain].com.au .

You might let me know which, if either, of those messages actually

arrives.

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But ...

3. If I run the command "host -t MX [yourdomain].com.au", I get 3

results,

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none of which is the server [yourdomain].com.au ... all 3 are [something].iinet.net.au ... your ISP, I assume. This means that ordinary off-site e-mail will be sent to one of those servers, not yours. Only God and your ISP know what happens to it after that. This is probably your

problem.

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"Ray Olszewski" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:5.1.0.14.1.20030826070427.01f0a9f0@celine...

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My mail server has been working without a glitch for a number of

months.

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All of a sudden it won't receive messages from the Internet. Local

mail

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within my network is still received. Our ISP is under new

management -

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so

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maybe its not a problem with my system!

The telnet message arrived but the "ordinary" one didn't. I've finally managed to contact my ISP about this. It looks as if my static IP address has been corrupted, as you have correctly pointed out. With any luck it will be fixed in the next few hours.

I'm just posting this so that readers can see the end of the story!

Robert.

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