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Bug 215971 [email protected] 1 participant 5 messages May 12, 2022 – May 14, 2022 Man-pages: manual pages for Linux -- Sections 2, 3, 4, 5, and 7

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Bug ID: 215971
Summary: dd(1p) manpage contains empty ASCII to EBDIC tables
Product: Documentation
Version: unspecified
Hardware: All
OS: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P1
Component: man-pages
Assignee: [email protected]
Reporter: [email protected]
Regression: No

The POSIX standard includes at the end of the OPERANDS section tables displaying "the octal number character values used for the ascii and ebcdic conversions (first table) and for the ibm conversion (second table)."
https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/dd.html#tagtcjh_25

In the above HTML edition of POSIX.1-2018, these tables are images, but are generated from troff source. In the man-pages-posix converted manpage dd(1p), the tables are empty; only the titles are present:

```
...
.ce 1
\fBTable 4-7: ASCII to EBCDIC Conversion\fR
.bp
.sp
.ce 1
\fBTable 4-8: ASCII to IBM EBCDIC Conversion\fR
.SH STDIN
...
```

Perhaps the tables could be preprocessed with tbl and included in the manpages?

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Alejandro Colomar (man-pages) ([email protected]) changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Alejandro Colomar (man-pages) ([email protected]) --- Hi Ben,

Ideally, we would distribute the original roff(7) POSIX documents, and not convert back again from HTML to man(7).

If POSIX sends (or publishes) their original roff(7) documents, I'll be happy to work with them (In fact, I'd probably completely skip HTML, and add the minimum to make the roff(7) source work as man(7) pages).

Thanks,

Alex

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--- Comment #2 from Ben Fuller ([email protected]) --- Hi Alex,

I was under the impression that the maintainer of man-pages-posix had access to the roff(7) sources:
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/docs/man-pages/man-pages-posix.git/tree/README,
but perhaps I misunderstood this. Apparently the sources can be obtained by contacting The Open Group?

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--- Comment #3 from Alejandro Colomar (man-pages) ([email protected]) --- Hi Ben

Quoted 10 lines · On 5/14/22 17:04, [email protected] wrote:

Hi Alex,

I was under the impression that the maintainer of man-pages-posix had access to
the roff(7) sources:

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/docs/man-pages/man-pages-posix.git/tree/README,
but perhaps I misunderstood this. Apparently the sources can be obtained by contacting The Open Group?

I guess maybe Michael Kerrisk has the sources; I don't.
<https://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/maintaining.html>

And every time I've tried to set up an accout in the open group website, I've found it a nightmare of redirections, logins, and accounts, so I gave up trying.

Sorry :/

Thanks,

Alex

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--- Comment #4 from Ben Fuller ([email protected]) ---
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Quoted 4 lines · On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 15:12:48 +0000, [email protected] wrote:

--- Comment #3 from Alejandro Colomar (man-pages) ([email protected])
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I guess maybe Michael Kerrisk has the sources; I don't.
<https://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/maintaining.html>

According to the Austin group, (see Q6:
https://www.opengroup.org/austin/papers/posix_faq.html)
Michael Kerrisk has some nroff pages, but I don't know if that's referring to the ones generated from HTML. Michael, is there any possibility of obtaining the roff sources of these tables?

Ben

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