mm/vmpressure: scale the vmpressure window with machine size
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PATCH 1/1 mm/vmpressure: scale the vmpressure window with machine size
From: Tao Cui <[email protected]>
vmpressure_win -- the number of pages the reclaimer must scan before socket pressure is re-evaluated -- has been a fixed 512 pages (2 MB) since vmpressure was introduced. The reclaimer scans more pages on a larger machine, so the window is reached far more often there and socket pressure is re-armed every handful of scanned pages. The comment at the definition has asked for the window to scale with machine size "as we do for vmstat thresholds" for over a decade.
Scale it the same way calculate_normal_threshold() does: logarithmically with memory (fls of memory in 128 MB units), computed once in a subsys_initcall once totalram_pages() is known. A machine under 128 MB keeps the historical 512 pages; the window then grows by SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX
* 16 per doubling of memory.
Why this matters: the scanned/reclaimed ratio that drives socket pressure is averaged over the window, and the window rate-limits the evaluation. With a fixed 2 MB window the evaluation runs the same number of times regardless of machine size, which is disproportionately many on a large machine. Measured by cold-booting one VM at each size and running the same cgroup-bound reclaim workload (so the page count is identical across sizes):
config scaled_win pages scanned 512-win evals scaled evals
4 GB 3072 11.9 M 23267 3877
8 GB 3584 11.9 M 23306 3329
16 GB 4096 11.9 M 23281 2910
32 GB 4608 11.9 M 23268 2585
64 GB 5120 11.9 M 23281 2328For the same reclaim work the fixed window evaluates ~23k times at every machine size; the scaled window evaluates fewer times the larger the machine -- a 6x reduction at 4 GB growing to 10x at 64 GB (and the logarithmic growth continues: ~11x projected at 128 GB). Each evaluation takes the per-memcg sr_lock and may write the socket_pressure seqlock, so on larger machines with more memcgs under pressure this is real overhead the fixed window pays needlessly.
The default stays 512 until the initcall runs, so early-boot reclaim is unchanged.
--- include/linux/vmpressure.h | 2 +- mm/vmpressure.c | 20 +++++++++++++++++--- 2 files changed, 18 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
include/linux/vmpressure.h +1 -1
@@ -51,7 +51,7 @@ extern struct vmpressure *memcg_to_vmpressure(struct mem_cgroup *memcg);extern struct mem_cgroup *vmpressure_to_memcg (struct vmpressure *vmpr);/* Shared with the v1 vmpressure block in mm/memcontrol-v1.c. */ -extern const unsigned long vmpressure_win; +extern unsigned long vmpressure_win;extern enum vmpressure_levels vmpressure_calc_level (unsigned long scanned,unsigned long reclaimed);
mm/vmpressure.c +17 -3
@@ -31,10 +31,24 @@* As the vmscan reclaimer logic works with chunks which are multiple of * SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX, it makes sense to use it for the window size as well. * -* TODO: Make the window size depend on machine size, as we do for vmstat -* thresholds. Currently we set it to 512 pages (2MB for 4KB pages). +* Scale the window with machine size, the way vmstat thresholds do: on a +* larger machine the reclaimer scans more pages, so a fixed window would +* re-evaluate pressure every handful of pages. The scaling is logarithmic +* (fls, like calculate_normal_threshold()), keeping the growth moderate. +* The default is the historical 512 pages; an early initcall applies the +* scaling once totalram_pages() is known. */ -const unsigned long vmpressure_win =SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX *16 ; +unsigned long vmpressure_win__read_mostly =SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX *16 ; + +static int __init vmpressure_init_window (void ) +{ +unsigned long mem128m;/* machine memory in 128MB units */ + + mem128m =totalram_pages () >> (27 -PAGE_SHIFT ); + vmpressure_win =SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX *16 * (1 +fls (mem128m)); +return 0 ; +} +subsys_initcall (vmpressure_init_window);/* * These thresholds are used when we account memory pressure through
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2.43.0
Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
reviewerNo thanks.
Firstly, a change like this should be RFC, especially from somebody who has not established trust in the community yet.
Secondly, this is more or less identical to a previously rejected patch ([0]) so seems to be plagiarism since you don't reference that at all.
Thirdly, this is the 2nd time I've seen a submission copying that patch unacknowledged (see my response to the last one at [1]).
I suspect actually that you're not plagiarising here but rather sending unacknowledged LLM-generated code in violation of kernel guidelines ([2]) - since the TODO must be a pretty obvious trigger for agents generating this patch.
But regardless of which it is, this patch is not welcome.
Thanks, Lorenzo
[0]:https://lore.kernel.org/all/[email protected]/ [1]:https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/aljYxLusTzZkTfnH@lucifer/ [2]:https://docs.kernel.org/process/coding-assistants.html
Sorry but no - this is a subtle problem that requires expertise and a strong argument in favour with data to back it not... this.
Quoted 10 lines · Tao Cui
From: Tao Cui <[email protected]>
vmpressure_win-- the number of pages the reclaimer must scan before socket pressure is re-evaluated -- has been a fixed 512 pages (2 MB) since vmpressure was introduced. The reclaimer scans more pages on a larger machine, so the window is reached far more often there and socket pressure is re-armed every handful of scanned pages. The comment at the definition has asked for the window to scale with machine size "as we do for vmstat thresholds" for over a decade.
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Scale it the same way
calculate_normal_threshold()does: logarithmically with memory (fls of memory in 128 MB units), computed once in asubsys_initcalloncetotalram_pages()is known. A machine under 128 MB keeps the historical 512 pages; the window then grows bySWAP_CLUSTER_MAX
* 16 per doubling of memory.Why this matters: the scanned/reclaimed ratio that drives socket pressure
"Why this matters"... oh I wonder where I've heard that kind of phrasing before...
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is averaged over the window, and the window rate-limits the evaluation. With a fixed 2 MB window the evaluation runs the same number of times regardless of machine size, which is disproportionately many on a large machine. Measured by cold-booting one VM at each size and running the same cgroup-bound reclaim workload (so the page count is identical across sizes):
config scaled_win pages scanned 512-win evals scaled evals 4 GB 3072 11.9 M 23267 3877 8 GB 3584 11.9 M 23306 3329 16 GB 4096 11.9 M 23281 2910 32 GB 4608 11.9 M 23268 2585 64 GB 5120 11.9 M 23281 2328For the same reclaim work the fixed window evaluates ~23k times at every machine size; the scaled window evaluates fewer times the larger the machine -- a 6x reduction at 4 GB growing to 10x at 64 GB (and the logarithmic growth continues: ~11x projected at 128 GB). Each evaluation takes the per-memcg
sr_lockand may write thesocket_pressureseqlock, so on larger machines with more memcgs under pressure this is real overhead the fixed window pays needlessly.The default stays 512 until the initcall runs, so early-boot reclaim is unchanged.
Signed-off-by Tao Cui <[email protected]>--- include/linux/vmpressure.h | 2 +- mm/vmpressure.c | 20 +++++++++++++++++--- 2 files changed, 18 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)include/linux/vmpressure.h +1
-1@@ -51,7 +51,7 @@ extern struct vmpressure *memcg_to_vmpressure(struct mem_cgroup *memcg);extern struct mem_cgroup *vmpressure_to_memcg (struct vmpressure *vmpr);/* Shared with the v1 vmpressure block in mm/memcontrol-v1.c. */ -extern const unsigned long vmpressure_win; +extern unsigned long vmpressure_win;extern enum vmpressure_levels vmpressure_calc_level (unsigned long scanned,unsigned long reclaimed);mm/vmpressure.c +17
-4@@ -31,10 +31,24 @@* As the vmscan reclaimer logic works with chunks which are multiple of * SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX, it makes sense to use it for the window size as well. * -* TODO: Make the window size depend on machine size, as we do for vmstat -* thresholds. Currently we set it to 512 pages (2MB for 4KB pages). +* Scale the window with machine size, the way vmstat thresholds do: on a +* larger machine the reclaimer scans more pages, so a fixed window would +* re-evaluate pressure every handful of pages. The scaling is logarithmic +* (fls, like calculate_normal_threshold()), keeping the growth moderate. +* The default is the historical 512 pages; an early initcall applies the +* scaling once totalram_pages() is known. */ -const unsigned long vmpressure_win =SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX *16 ; +unsigned long vmpressure_win__read_mostly =SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX *16 ; + +static int __init vmpressure_init_window (void ) +{ +unsigned long mem128m;/* machine memory in 128MB units */ + + mem128m =totalram_pages () >> (27 -PAGE_SHIFT ); + vmpressure_win =SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX *16 * (1 +fls (mem128m)); +return 0 ; +} +subsys_initcall (vmpressure_init_window);/* * These thresholds are used when we account memory pressure through --
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2.43.0
Cheers, Lorenzo
Quoted 18 lines · Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
No thanks.
Firstly, a change like this should be RFC, especially from somebody who has not established trust in the community yet.
Secondly, this is more or less identical to a previously rejected patch ([0]) so seems to be plagiarism since you don't reference that at all.
Thirdly, this is the 2nd time I've seen a submission copying that patch unacknowledged (see my response to the last one at [1]).
I suspect actually that you're not plagiarising here but rather sending unacknowledged LLM-generated code in violation of kernel guidelines ([2]) - since the TODO must be a pretty obvious trigger for agents generating this patch.
But regardless of which it is, this patch is not welcome.
Quoted 9 lines
Thanks, Lorenzo
[0]:https://lore.kernel.org/all/[email protected]/ [1]:https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/aljYxLusTzZkTfnH@lucifer/ [2]:https://docs.kernel.org/process/coding-assistants.html
Sorry but no - this is a subtle problem that requires expertise and a strong argument in favour with data to back it not... this.
Understood. Thanks for the review, and for the pointer to the earlier patch [0]. I should have searched for prior attempts and referenced it rather than sending this; my apologies. Withdrawing it.
I've read the coding-assistants guidelines [2] and will follow them going forward.
Thanks,
Tao Cui
Quoted 103 lines · Tao Cui
Quoted 10 lines
From: Tao Cui <[email protected]>
vmpressure_win-- the number of pages the reclaimer must scan before socket pressure is re-evaluated -- has been a fixed 512 pages (2 MB) since vmpressure was introduced. The reclaimer scans more pages on a larger machine, so the window is reached far more often there and socket pressure is re-armed every handful of scanned pages. The comment at the definition has asked for the window to scale with machine size "as we do for vmstat thresholds" for over a decade.Quoted 7 lines
Scale it the same way
calculate_normal_threshold()does: logarithmically with memory (fls of memory in 128 MB units), computed once in asubsys_initcalloncetotalram_pages()is known. A machine under 128 MB keeps the historical 512 pages; the window then grows bySWAP_CLUSTER_MAX
* 16 per doubling of memory.Why this matters: the scanned/reclaimed ratio that drives socket pressure
"Why this matters"... oh I wonder where I've heard that kind of phrasing before...
Quoted 77 lines
is averaged over the window, and the window rate-limits the evaluation. With a fixed 2 MB window the evaluation runs the same number of times regardless of machine size, which is disproportionately many on a large machine. Measured by cold-booting one VM at each size and running the same cgroup-bound reclaim workload (so the page count is identical across sizes):
config scaled_win pages scanned 512-win evals scaled evals 4 GB 3072 11.9 M 23267 3877 8 GB 3584 11.9 M 23306 3329 16 GB 4096 11.9 M 23281 2910 32 GB 4608 11.9 M 23268 2585 64 GB 5120 11.9 M 23281 2328For the same reclaim work the fixed window evaluates ~23k times at every machine size; the scaled window evaluates fewer times the larger the machine -- a 6x reduction at 4 GB growing to 10x at 64 GB (and the logarithmic growth continues: ~11x projected at 128 GB). Each evaluation takes the per-memcg
sr_lockand may write thesocket_pressureseqlock, so on larger machines with more memcgs under pressure this is real overhead the fixed window pays needlessly.The default stays 512 until the initcall runs, so early-boot reclaim is unchanged.
Signed-off-by Tao Cui <[email protected]>--- include/linux/vmpressure.h | 2 +- mm/vmpressure.c | 20 +++++++++++++++++--- 2 files changed, 18 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)include/linux/vmpressure.h +1
-1@@ -51,7 +51,7 @@ extern struct vmpressure *memcg_to_vmpressure(struct mem_cgroup *memcg);extern struct mem_cgroup *vmpressure_to_memcg (struct vmpressure *vmpr);/* Shared with the v1 vmpressure block in mm/memcontrol-v1.c. */ -extern const unsigned long vmpressure_win; +extern unsigned long vmpressure_win;extern enum vmpressure_levels vmpressure_calc_level (unsigned long scanned,unsigned long reclaimed);mm/vmpressure.c +17
-4@@ -31,10 +31,24 @@* As the vmscan reclaimer logic works with chunks which are multiple of * SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX, it makes sense to use it for the window size as well. * -* TODO: Make the window size depend on machine size, as we do for vmstat -* thresholds. Currently we set it to 512 pages (2MB for 4KB pages). +* Scale the window with machine size, the way vmstat thresholds do: on a +* larger machine the reclaimer scans more pages, so a fixed window would +* re-evaluate pressure every handful of pages. The scaling is logarithmic +* (fls, like calculate_normal_threshold()), keeping the growth moderate. +* The default is the historical 512 pages; an early initcall applies the +* scaling once totalram_pages() is known. */ -const unsigned long vmpressure_win =SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX *16 ; +unsigned long vmpressure_win__read_mostly =SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX *16 ; + +static int __init vmpressure_init_window (void ) +{ +unsigned long mem128m;/* machine memory in 128MB units */ + + mem128m =totalram_pages () >> (27 -PAGE_SHIFT ); + vmpressure_win =SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX *16 * (1 +fls (mem128m)); +return 0 ; +} +subsys_initcall (vmpressure_init_window);/* * These thresholds are used when we account memory pressure through -- Quoted 2 lines
2.43.0
Cheers, Lorenzo