3.0.0-rc2 fails to boot on Atom appliance.

Anyone seen something like this? For what it's worth, it seems that -rc1 had the same problem. I'll start bisecting soon if the problem isn't already resolved somehow...

OS is 32-bit Fedora 13.

udevd (96): /proc/96/oom_adj is deprecated, please use /proc/96/oom_score_adj instead.
[drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
i915 0000:00:02.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 [drm] Supports vblank timestamp caching Rev 1 (10.10.2010). [drm] Driver supports precise vblank timestamp query.
vgaarb: device changed decodes:
PCI:0000:00:02.0,olddecodes=io+mem,decodes=io+mem:owns=io+mem dracut:
dracut: udevadm settle - timeout of 30 seconds reached, the event queue contains:
dracut: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0 (885)
dracut: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/controlD64 (965)
dracut: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/card0 (966)
dracut: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-0 (967)
dracut: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-1 (968)
dracut: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-2 (969)
dracut: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-3 (970)
dracut: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-4 (971)
dracut: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-5 (972)
dracut: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-6 (973)
dracut: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-7 (974)
dracut: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/card0/card0-LVDS-1 (975)
dracut: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/card0 (976)
dracut: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/card0/card0-VGA-1 (977)
dracut: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/card0 (978)
dracut: Starting plymouth daemon
Gdracut: rd_NO_DM: removing DM RAID activation
dracut: rd_NO_MD: removing MD RAID activation
Gudevd[96]: worker [99] unexpectedly returned with status 0x0100

udevd[96]: worker [99] failed while handling
'/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0'

udevadm settle - timeout of 180 seconds reached, the event queue contains:
/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/controlD64 (965) /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/card0 (966) /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-0 (967) /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-1 (968) /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-2 (969) /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-3 (970) /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-4 (971) /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-5 (972) /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-6 (973) /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-7 (974) /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/card0/card0-LVDS-1 (975) /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/card0 (976) /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/card0/card0-VGA-1 (977) /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/card0 (978) /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0 (1053) /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/card0 (1054) /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/card0/card0-LVDS-1 (1055) /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/card0/card0-VGA-1 (1056) /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/controlD64 (1057) /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-0 (1058) /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-1 (1059) /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-2 (1060) /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-3 (1061) /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-4 (1062) /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-5 (1063) /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-6 (1064) /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/i2c-7 (1065)

INFO: task modprobe:263 blocked for more than 180 seconds.

"echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. modprobe D f26ebeec 0 263 1 0x00000000
f26ebf58 00000046 00000006 f26ebeec c0b1fc00 f261d280 c0b1fc00 c0b1fc00 f261d4fc c0b1fc00 7bff03b0 00000032 00000000 00000032 f261d280 00000000 00000007 f261d280 c07fc13c 00000002 f26ebf28 c04619c3 c0a6bb34 00000246

Call Trace:
[<c07fc13c>] ? _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore+0x41/0x4d
[<c04619c3>] ? trace_hardirqs_on_caller+0x10e/0x12f
[<c04619ef>] ? trace_hardirqs_on+0xb/0xd
[<c045153c>] ? prepare_to_wait+0x56/0x5c
[<c067e89b>] wait_for_device_probe+0x5d/0x76
[<c0451360>] ? wake_up_bit+0x60/0x60
[<f8563008>] wait_scan_init+0x8/0x11 [scsi_wait_scan]
[<c040115e>] do_one_initcall+0x76/0x126
[<f8563000>] ? 0xf8562fff
[<c046b929>] sys_init_module+0x7c/0x1a8
[<c0801d98>] sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x38
no locks held by modprobe/263.
INFO: task modprobe:263 blocked for more than 180 seconds.

"echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. modprobe D f26ebeec 0 263 1 0x00000000
f26ebf58 00000046 00000006 f26ebeec c0b1fc00 f261d280 c0b1fc00 c0b1fc00 f261d4fc c0b1fc00 7bff03b0 00000032 00000000 00000032 f261d280 00000000 00000007 f261d280 c07fc13c 00000002 f26ebf28 c04619c3 c0a6bb34 00000246

Call Trace:
[<c07fc13c>] ? _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore+0x41/0x4d
[<c04619c3>] ? trace_hardirqs_on_caller+0x10e/0x12f
[<c04619ef>] ? trace_hardirqs_on+0xb/0xd
[<c045153c>] ? prepare_to_wait+0x56/0x5c
[<c067e89b>] wait_for_device_probe+0x5d/0x76
[<c0451360>] ? wake_up_bit+0x60/0x60
[<f8563008>] wait_scan_init+0x8/0x11 [scsi_wait_scan]
[<c040115e>] do_one_initcall+0x76/0x126
[<f8563000>] ? 0xf8562fff
[<c046b929>] sys_init_module+0x7c/0x1a8
[<c0801d98>] sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x38
no locks held by modprobe/263.
INFO: task modprobe:263 blocked for more than 180 seconds.

"echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. modprobe D f26ebeec 0 263 1 0x00000000
f26ebf58 00000046 00000006 f26ebeec c0b1fc00 f261d280 c0b1fc00 c0b1fc00 f261d4fc c0b1fc00 7bff03b0 00000032 00000000 00000032 f261d280 00000000 00000007 f261d280 c07fc13c 00000002 f26ebf28 c04619c3 c0a6bb34 00000246

Call Trace:
[<c07fc13c>] ? _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore+0x41/0x4d
[<c04619c3>] ? trace_hardirqs_on_caller+0x10e/0x12f
[<c04619ef>] ? trace_hardirqs_on+0xb/0xd
[<c045153c>] ? prepare_to_wait+0x56/0x5c
[<c067e89b>] wait_for_device_probe+0x5d/0x76
[<c0451360>] ? wake_up_bit+0x60/0x60
[<f8563008>] wait_scan_init+0x8/0x11 [scsi_wait_scan]
[<c040115e>] do_one_initcall+0x76/0x126
[<f8563000>] ? 0xf8562fff
[<c046b929>] sys_init_module+0x7c/0x1a8
[<c0801d98>] sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x38
no locks held by modprobe/263.
INFO: task modprobe:263 blocked for more than 180 seconds.

"echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. modprobe D f26ebeec 0 263 1 0x00000000
f26ebf58 00000046 00000006 f26ebeec c0b1fc00 f261d280 c0b1fc00 c0b1fc00 f261d4fc c0b1fc00 7bff03b0 00000032 00000000 00000032 f261d280 00000000 00000007 f261d280 c07fc13c 00000002 f26ebf28 c04619c3 c0a6bb34 00000246

Call Trace:
[<c07fc13c>] ? _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore+0x41/0x4d
[<c04619c3>] ? trace_hardirqs_on_caller+0x10e/0x12f
[<c04619ef>] ? trace_hardirqs_on+0xb/0xd
[<c045153c>] ? prepare_to_wait+0x56/0x5c
[<c067e89b>] wait_for_device_probe+0x5d/0x76
[<c0451360>] ? wake_up_bit+0x60/0x60
[<f8563008>] wait_scan_init+0x8/0x11 [scsi_wait_scan]
[<c040115e>] do_one_initcall+0x76/0x126
[<f8563000>] ? 0xf8562fff
[<c046b929>] sys_init_module+0x7c/0x1a8
[<c0801d98>] sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x38
no locks held by modprobe/263.
INFO: task modprobe:263 blocked for more than 180 seconds.

"echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. modprobe D f26ebeec 0 263 1 0x00000000
f26ebf58 00000046 00000006 f26ebeec c0b1fc00 f261d280 c0b1fc00 c0b1fc00 f261d4fc c0b1fc00 7bff03b0 00000032 00000000 00000032 f261d280 00000000 00000007 f261d280 c07fc13c 00000002 f26ebf28 c04619c3 c0a6bb34 00000246

Call Trace:
[<c07fc13c>] ? _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore+0x41/0x4d
[<c04619c3>] ? trace_hardirqs_on_caller+0x10e/0x12f
[<c04619ef>] ? trace_hardirqs_on+0xb/0xd
[<c045153c>] ? prepare_to_wait+0x56/0x5c
[<c067e89b>] wait_for_device_probe+0x5d/0x76
[<c0451360>] ? wake_up_bit+0x60/0x60
[<f8563008>] wait_scan_init+0x8/0x11 [scsi_wait_scan]
[<c040115e>] do_one_initcall+0x76/0x126
[<f8563000>] ? 0xf8562fff
[<c046b929>] sys_init_module+0x7c/0x1a8
[<c0801d98>] sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x38
no locks held by modprobe/263.
INFO: task modprobe:263 blocked for more than 180 seconds.

"echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. modprobe D f26ebeec 0 263 1 0x00000000
f26ebf58 00000046 00000006 f26ebeec c0b1fc00 f261d280 c0b1fc00 c0b1fc00 f261d4fc c0b1fc00 7bff03b0 00000032 00000000 00000032 f261d280 00000000 00000007 f261d280 c07fc13c 00000002 f26ebf28 c04619c3 c0a6bb34 00000246

Call Trace:
[<c07fc13c>] ? _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore+0x41/0x4d
[<c04619c3>] ? trace_hardirqs_on_caller+0x10e/0x12f
[<c04619ef>] ? trace_hardirqs_on+0xb/0xd
[<c045153c>] ? prepare_to_wait+0x56/0x5c
[<c067e89b>] wait_for_device_probe+0x5d/0x76
[<c0451360>] ? wake_up_bit+0x60/0x60
[<f8563008>] wait_scan_init+0x8/0x11 [scsi_wait_scan]
[<c040115e>] do_one_initcall+0x76/0x126
[<f8563000>] ? 0xf8562fff
[<c046b929>] sys_init_module+0x7c/0x1a8
[<c0801d98>] sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x38
no locks held by modprobe/263.
INFO: task modprobe:263 blocked for more than 180 seconds.

"echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. modprobe D f26ebeec 0 263 1 0x00000000
f26ebf58 00000046 00000006 f26ebeec c0b1fc00 f261d280 c0b1fc00 c0b1fc00 f261d4fc c0b1fc00 7bff03b0 00000032 00000000 00000032 f261d280 00000000 00000007 f261d280 c07fc13c 00000002 f26ebf28 c04619c3 c0a6bb34 00000246

Call Trace:
[<c07fc13c>] ? _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore+0x41/0x4d
[<c04619c3>] ? trace_hardirqs_on_caller+0x10e/0x12f
[<c04619ef>] ? trace_hardirqs_on+0xb/0xd
[<c045153c>] ? prepare_to_wait+0x56/0x5c
[<c067e89b>] wait_for_device_probe+0x5d/0x76
[<c0451360>] ? wake_up_bit+0x60/0x60
[<f8563008>] wait_scan_init+0x8/0x11 [scsi_wait_scan]
[<c040115e>] do_one_initcall+0x76/0x126
[<f8563000>] ? 0xf8562fff
[<c046b929>] sys_init_module+0x7c/0x1a8
[<c0801d98>] sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x38
no locks held by modprobe/263.
INFO: task modprobe:263 blocked for more than 180 seconds.

"echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. modprobe D f26ebeec 0 263 1 0x00000000
f26ebf58 00000046 00000006 f26ebeec c0b1fc00 f261d280 c0b1fc00 c0b1fc00 f261d4fc c0b1fc00 7bff03b0 00000032 00000000 00000032 f261d280 00000000 00000007 f261d280 c07fc13c 00000002 f26ebf28 c04619c3 c0a6bb34 00000246

Call Trace:
[<c07fc13c>] ? _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore+0x41/0x4d
[<c04619c3>] ? trace_hardirqs_on_caller+0x10e/0x12f
[<c04619ef>] ? trace_hardirqs_on+0xb/0xd
[<c045153c>] ? prepare_to_wait+0x56/0x5c
[<c067e89b>] wait_for_device_probe+0x5d/0x76
[<c0451360>] ? wake_up_bit+0x60/0x60
[<f8563008>] wait_scan_init+0x8/0x11 [scsi_wait_scan]
[<c040115e>] do_one_initcall+0x76/0x126
[<f8563000>] ? 0xf8562fff
[<c046b929>] sys_init_module+0x7c/0x1a8
[<c0801d98>] sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x38
no locks held by modprobe/263.
INFO: task modprobe:263 blocked for more than 180 seconds.

"echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. modprobe D f26ebeec 0 263 1 0x00000000
f26ebf58 00000046 00000006 f26ebeec c0b1fc00 f261d280 c0b1fc00 c0b1fc00 f261d4fc c0b1fc00 7bff03b0 00000032 00000000 00000032 f261d280 00000000 00000007 f261d280 c07fc13c 00000002 f26ebf28 c04619c3 c0a6bb34 00000246

Call Trace:
[<c07fc13c>] ? _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore+0x41/0x4d
[<c04619c3>] ? trace_hardirqs_on_caller+0x10e/0x12f
[<c04619ef>] ? trace_hardirqs_on+0xb/0xd
[<c045153c>] ? prepare_to_wait+0x56/0x5c
[<c067e89b>] wait_for_device_probe+0x5d/0x76
[<c0451360>] ? wake_up_bit+0x60/0x60
[<f8563008>] wait_scan_init+0x8/0x11 [scsi_wait_scan]
[<c040115e>] do_one_initcall+0x76/0x126
[<f8563000>] ? 0xf8562fff
[<c046b929>] sys_init_module+0x7c/0x1a8
[<c0801d98>] sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x38
no locks held by modprobe/263.
INFO: task modprobe:263 blocked for more than 180 seconds.

"echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. modprobe D f26ebeec 0 263 1 0x00000000
f26ebf58 00000046 00000006 f26ebeec c0b1fc00 f261d280 c0b1fc00 c0b1fc00 f261d4fc c0b1fc00 7bff03b0 00000032 00000000 00000032 f261d280 00000000 00000007 f261d280 c07fc13c 00000002 f26ebf28 c04619c3 c0a6bb34 00000246

Call Trace:
[<c07fc13c>] ? _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore+0x41/0x4d
[<c04619c3>] ? trace_hardirqs_on_caller+0x10e/0x12f
[<c04619ef>] ? trace_hardirqs_on+0xb/0xd
[<c045153c>] ? prepare_to_wait+0x56/0x5c
[<c067e89b>] wait_for_device_probe+0x5d/0x76
[<c0451360>] ? wake_up_bit+0x60/0x60
[<f8563008>] wait_scan_init+0x8/0x11 [scsi_wait_scan]
[<c040115e>] do_one_initcall+0x76/0x126
[<f8563000>] ? 0xf8562fff
[<c046b929>] sys_init_module+0x7c/0x1a8
[<c0801d98>] sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x38
no locks held by modprobe/263.

SysRq : Show Locks Held

Showing all locks held in the system:
7 locks held by modprobe/100:

#0: (&__lockdep_no_validate__){+.+.+.}, at: [<c067e724>] __driver_attach+0x31/0x6b
#1: (&__lockdep_no_validate__){+.+.+.}, at: [<c067e730>] __driver_attach+0x3d/0x6b
#2: (drm_global_mutex){+.+.+.}, at: [<f810a024>] drm_get_pci_dev+0xad/0x21b [drm]
#3: (&(&i->lock)->rlock){-.-...}, at: [<c066a101>] serial8250_interrupt+0x23/0xe9
#4: (&port_lock_key){-.-...}, at: [<c0669e59>] serial8250_handle_port+0x15/0x29a
#5: (sysrq_key_table_lock){-.....}, at: [<c065a4cc>] __handle_sysrq+0x1d/0x115
#6: (tasklist_lock){.+.+..}, at: [<c0461000>] debug_show_all_locks+0x41/0x16b

=============================================

Quoted 3 lines · Ben Greear

Anyone seen something like this? For what it's worth, it seems that -rc1 had the same problem. I'll start bisecting soon if the problem isn't already resolved somehow...

I bisected this problem down to this commit:

Quoted 6 lines · Ben Greear

Quoted 3 lines · Ben Greear

Anyone seen something like this? For what it's worth, it seems that -rc1 had the same problem. I'll start bisecting soon if the problem isn't already resolved somehow...

I bisected this problem down to this commit:

This should be fixed by this patch:

-------------------- drivers/gpu/drm/i915/intel_display.c --------------------- index f553ddf..bb1b59b 100644

(quoted diff) +1 -0

@@ -7675,6 +7675,7 @@ static void intel_init_display(struct drm_device *dev)
  			dev_priv->display.update_wm = NULL;
  		} else
  			dev_priv->display.update_wm = pineview_update_wm;
+		dev_priv->display.init_clock_gating = gen3_init_clock_gating;
  	} else if (IS_G4X(dev)) {
  		dev_priv->display.update_wm = g4x_update_wm;
  		dev_priv->display.init_clock_gating = g4x_init_clock_gating;

This hasn't been merged yet, but should be soon.

Quoted 21 lines · Keith Packard

Quoted 6 lines · Ben Greear

Quoted 3 lines · Ben Greear

Anyone seen something like this? For what it's worth, it seems that -rc1 had the same problem. I'll start bisecting soon if the problem isn't already resolved somehow...

I bisected this problem down to this commit:

This should be fixed by this patch:

-------------------- drivers/gpu/drm/i915/intel_display.c --------------------- index f553ddf..bb1b59b 100644

(quoted diff) +1 -0

@@ -7675,6 +7675,7 @@ static void intel_init_display(struct drm_device *dev)
  			dev_priv->display.update_wm = NULL;
  		} else
  			dev_priv->display.update_wm = pineview_update_wm;
+		dev_priv->display.init_clock_gating = gen3_init_clock_gating;
  	} else if (IS_G4X(dev)) {
  		dev_priv->display.update_wm = g4x_update_wm;
  		dev_priv->display.init_clock_gating = g4x_init_clock_gating;

Quoted 1 line

This hasn't been merged yet, but should be soon.

I tried adding that, but the problem stays the same.

Any other patches I should try?

Quoted 22 lines · On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 16:59:02 -0700 Ben Greear<[email protected]> wrote:

Quoted 21 lines · Keith Packard

Quoted 6 lines · Ben Greear

Quoted 3 lines · Ben Greear

Anyone seen something like this? For what it's worth, it seems that -rc1 had the same problem. I'll start bisecting soon if the problem isn't already resolved somehow...

I bisected this problem down to this commit:

This should be fixed by this patch:

-------------------- drivers/gpu/drm/i915/intel_display.c --------------------- index f553ddf..bb1b59b 100644

(quoted diff) +1 -0

@@ -7675,6 +7675,7 @@ static void intel_init_display(struct drm_device *dev)
   			dev_priv->display.update_wm = NULL;
   		} else
   			dev_priv->display.update_wm = pineview_update_wm;
+		dev_priv->display.init_clock_gating = gen3_init_clock_gating;
   	} else if (IS_G4X(dev)) {
   		dev_priv->display.update_wm = g4x_update_wm;
   		dev_priv->display.init_clock_gating = g4x_init_clock_gating;

Quoted 5 lines

Quoted 1 line

This hasn't been merged yet, but should be soon.

I tried adding that, but the problem stays the same.

Any other patches I should try?

Are you sure you booted the right kernel and that it built& installed correctly?

You could add an:

   if (dev_priv->display.init_clock_gating)

above the call to display.init_clock_gating in intel_init_clock_gating to be sure it's the same problem...

Quoted 28 lines · Jesse Barnes

Quoted 25 lines · On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 16:59:02 -0700 Ben Greear<[email protected]> wrote:

Quoted 24 lines · Keith Packard

Quoted 6 lines · Ben Greear

Quoted 3 lines · Ben Greear

Anyone seen something like this? For what it's worth, it seems that -rc1 had the same problem. I'll start bisecting soon if the problem isn't already resolved somehow...

I bisected this problem down to this commit:

This should be fixed by this patch:

-------------------- drivers/gpu/drm/i915/intel_display.c
---------------------
index f553ddf..bb1b59b 100644

(quoted diff) +1 -0

@@ -7675,6 +7675,7 @@ static void intel_init_display(struct
 drm_device *dev)
 dev_priv->display.update_wm = NULL;
 } else
 dev_priv->display.update_wm = pineview_update_wm;
+ dev_priv->display.init_clock_gating = gen3_init_clock_gating;
 } else if (IS_G4X(dev)) {
 dev_priv->display.update_wm = g4x_update_wm;

dev_priv->display.init_clock_gating = g4x_init_clock_gating;

Quoted 8 lines

Quoted 5 lines

Quoted 1 line

This hasn't been merged yet, but should be soon.

I tried adding that, but the problem stays the same.

Any other patches I should try?

Are you sure you booted the right kernel and that it built& installed correctly?

I double checked, but I tried to cheat a bit and just applied that patch on top of -rc2 instead of on top of the patch that breaks things according to bisect. Maybe there is more than one problem. I'll try tweaking that single patch tomorrow.

And, I built and booted twice to make sure I didn't screw up..but it had been
a long day of bisecting, so maybe I still messed up some how.

Quoted 6 lines

You could add an:
if (dev_priv->display.init_clock_gating)
above the call to display.init_clock_gating in intel_init_clock_gating to be sure it's the same problem...

Ok, can try that too.

Thanks,
Ben