weird keyboard with 2.5.70
Quoted 2 lines · Margit Schubert-While
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Errr, guys - you do know that PS2 is NOT hotplug and you may well end up hosing your mainboard ?
hm, i guessed this was an important thing "in the old days" (TM), i never had problems when "hotplugging" ps/2. nevertheless - i _have_ to unplug/replug the ps/2 keyboard to actually _use_ it. after this is done the keyboard is working right (and the mainboard, too :-))
thank you all for your comments; i only wished
- someone else has these problems too
- one could tell what to try to get error messages or so (usb debugging and input debugging is available!)
- is it fixable at all? with 2.4.20-rc2 this was is not happening...
Thanks again,
Christian.
Quoted 7 lines · Christian Kujau
hm, i guessed this was an important thing "in the old days" (TM), i never had problems when "hotplugging" ps/2. nevertheless - i _have_ to unplug/replug the ps/2 keyboard to actually _use_ it. after this is done the keyboard is working right (and the mainboard, too :-))
thank you all for your comments; i only wished
- someone else has these problems too
Why do you wish your bad luck on others? Well, I've seen it, too, but it wasn't very bad for me. I had only one burst every ~100 keystrokes or so. I'm not using 2.5 kernels right now, because of bad IDE disk performance.
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- one could tell what to try to get error messages or so (usb debugging and input debugging is available!)
- is it fixable at all? with 2.4.20-rc2 this was is not happening...
It was breakable, so it had better be fixable.
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Quoted 4 lines · Måns Rullgård
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thank you all for your comments; i only wished
- someone else has these problems tooWhy do you wish your bad luck on others?
no, no, this is not what i wanted to say. but i couldn't image why this problem does not show up on other ppl's computers too. if more ppl complain - the keyboard guys might take a look at it. sorry for being unclear.
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It was breakable, so it had better be fixable.
i guess the worst thing is: ther is no error message. if i only had an error message one would know where to look at. but i only have these weird behaviour. i could post usb-debug messages, if it only would help.
i already got a workaround for me, see my other post.
Thank you,
Christian.
Quoted 5 lines · Christian Kujau
hm, i guessed this was an important thing "in the old days" (TM), i never had problems when "hotplugging" ps/2. nevertheless - i _have_ to unplug/replug the ps/2 keyboard to actually _use_ it. after this is done the keyboard is working right (and the mainboard, too :-))
Today I realize it more signifikant here. Sometimes a pressed key hangs, the kernel realizes not, that it was a single click. Then the Key is repeyted until I press it once again.
Christian, do you get this error only in X or at console too?
Furthermore my ps2 kbd is usable without hotplugging it, though.
The strange thing happens very often using ssh.
In earlyer days I had a similair Problem with an SiS chipset board @work and 2.4.x ac kernels, there only an usb keyboard is usable. This happens only happens running X and IIRC this was/is an xfree86 bug there.
But here @home I get this error for the 1st time with this otherwise master piece of software being 2.5.70-mm3 :) on an i845PE chipset.
I discovered this only running X 'cause I did not do much console work with this kernel, since it is so young :)
regards,
Konstantin
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Quoted 4 lines · Christian Kujau
hm, i guessed this was an important thing "in the old days" (TM), i never had problems when "hotplugging" ps/2. nevertheless - i _have_ to unplug/replug the ps/2 keyboard to actually _use_ it. after this is done the keyboard is working right (and the mainboard, too :-))
Today I realize it more signifikant here. Sometimes a pressed key hangs, the kernel realizes not, that it was a single click. Then the Key is repeyted until I press it once again.
no, here it's more than "a single klick will write 5-10 chars". it is _not_ repeated to the infinite. and no, both kbds are OK (2.4.20-rc3 works)
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Christian, do you get this error only in X or at console too?
on X and console.
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Furthermore my ps2 kbd is usable without hotplugging it, though.
The strange thing happens very often using ssh.
no, i don't think it's appliation related. to actuallay _use_ my system i have to login. and to do that, i will write my username / password. and to do that, i have to unplug/replug my keyboard.
since i have other module issues right now i'm on 2.4.20rc3 again. what i have done yesterday in the evening was this:
- i compiled 2.5.70 again, input/usb support statically include but with a modular CONFIG_USB_KBD (usbkbd) and a modular CONFIG_KEYBOARD_ATKBD (atkbd). then i rebooted, logged in via remote console where i was able to load "atkbd" and "usbkbd". then both kbds were up *in a sane way* !!
so this would be the workaround for me.
i wonder when the problem will diesappear as it did on linux/alpha :-)
Thanks for comments,
Christian.
Quoted 1 line · Christian Kujau
i wonder when the problem will diesappear as it did on linux/alpha :-)
So it's ok on Alpha now? That's where I saw it. Strangely, though, only on one of my machines. I guess I'll give 2.5.70 a try some day, but the ALSA problems have been keeping me away from it.
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