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DISCUSSION Richard B. Johnson 8 participants 8 messages Mar 29, 2001 – Apr 2, 2001

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This is for information only.

Last week a standard RH distribution of Linux was rooted from what looks like a Russian invasion. The penetration used the method taught in the CERT Advisory CA-2000-17.

The intruder(s) then attempted to perform additional penetrations from this site. One of the sites attacked was alleged to be Raytheon. Raytheon makes products for national security such as guided missiles.

I was told that Raytheon is now suing this company. Therefore all Linux machines
are being denied access to the Internet.

The penetration occurred because somebody changed our firewall configuration
so that all of the non-DHCP addresses, i.e., all the real IP addresses had complete
connectivity to the outside world. This meant that every Linux and Sun Workstation
in this facility was exposed to tampering from anywhere in the world. This appears
to be part of a plan to remove all non-DHCP machines by getting them trashed.
In other words, we were set up to take a hard fall because no machine that allows
NFS mounts can be safely exposed to the outside world without blocking portmap.

There is a concerted effort to eliminate both Sun Workstations and Linux machines
as tools in this facility. This happens as the "yuppies", who have never, ever, contributed
to product development are Peter-Principled into positions of authority.

The email addresses of those who have declared that only Windows machines will
be allowed access to the outside world are:

Thor T. Wallace [email protected]
David Pothier [email protected]

David Pothier was a beta tester for Windows/NT. Of course he wants all machines to
be Windows and, naturally, under his control.

Thor Wallace is our new "security" administrator so I am told.

The only Linux advocate in a position of authority is:

Alex Shekhel [email protected]

So, now I hooked up my lap-top, installed Windows.... and here I am. Only windows
machines are allowed to access the outside world.

Cheers,

Richard B. Johnson
Formally [email protected]

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Quoted 12 lines · On 03.29 Richard B. Johnson wrote:

The penetration occurred because somebody changed our firewall configuration
so that all of the non-DHCP addresses, i.e., all the real IP addresses had complete
connectivity to the outside world. This meant that every Linux and Sun Workstation
in this facility was exposed to tampering from anywhere in the world. This appears
to be part of a plan to remove all non-DHCP machines by getting them trashed.

See the cleverness of his network admins, that spent their time configuring a firewall to MAKE HOLES where there are not any...

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Linux werewolf 2.4.2-ac27 #1 SMP Wed Mar 28 23:27:18 CEST 2001 i686
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First mistake:
your security administrator relied on the firewall for protection.
It is an _aid_ to security; not the 'be all and end all'. IOW, the hosts weren't hardened to resist penetration in case the firewall didn't cover it.

Second mistake:
your security administrator didn't make known the changes taking
place, so that clueful users could have taken some preventative steps on their UNIX boxes.

Third mistake:
your security administrator either didn't know about; didn't care
about; or didn't act on security problems for linux and solaris -- which have been posted, discussed, and addressed on many general or OS-specific security lists.

Fourth mistake:
your security administrator, rather than address the problems, is
sticking his head in the sand and mumbling 'Windows' -- which, as an OS, is a christmas tree where every bauble says 'please hack me!'.

In short, your security administrator needs to be dragged out, shot, and left hanging by the front door as a warning to his replacement.

Or, at least fired.

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In short, your security administrator needs to be dragged out, shot, and left hanging by the front door as a warning to his replacement.

Or, at least fired.

That, or have all the Unix using/loving people at Analogic turn in their resignations. When IS takes on too much of a Gestapo air about them, the only thing to do is leave them to do not only all the administration, but all the development as well. It's usually about then that CEOs actually pay attention to how much distress IS is causing the rest of the company and give them a swift kick in the ass to straighten things out (assuming you have a CEO worth a damn, that assumption could be totally wrong).

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On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:

In short, your security administrator needs to be dragged out, shot, and left hanging by the front door as a warning to his replacement.

Or, at least fired.

I have now gotten three linux machines back "on-the-air". The security people insist on doing "NAT", so these machine are now using a phony internal address, but we are up.

Another crisis created and resolved.

Cheers,
Dick Johnson

Penguin : Linux version 2.4.1 on an i686 machine (799.53 BogoMips).

"Memory is like gasoline. You use it up when you are running. Of course you get it all back when you reboot..."; Actual explanation obtained from the Micro$oft help desk.

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Hi,

I assume that it is ok to sue any company that forwards viruses too... (not only the author...)

Are Raytheon suing the company were you work, or some unknown/unnamed company made up by Microsoft? (you were not specific about this)

/RogerL

Quoted 70 lines · Richard B. Johnson

This is for information only.

Last week a standard RH distribution of Linux was rooted from what looks like a Russian invasion. The penetration used the method taught in the CERT Advisory CA-2000-17.

The intruder(s) then attempted to perform additional penetrations from this site. One of the sites attacked was alleged to be Raytheon. Raytheon makes products for national security such as guided missiles.

I was told that Raytheon is now suing this company. Therefore all Linux machines
are being denied access to the Internet.

The penetration occurred because somebody changed our firewall configuration
so that all of the non-DHCP addresses, i.e., all the real IP addresses had complete
connectivity to the outside world. This meant that every Linux and Sun Workstation
in this facility was exposed to tampering from anywhere in the world. This appears
to be part of a plan to remove all non-DHCP machines by getting them trashed.
In other words, we were set up to take a hard fall because no machine that allows
NFS mounts can be safely exposed to the outside world without blocking portmap.

There is a concerted effort to eliminate both Sun Workstations and Linux machines
as tools in this facility. This happens as the "yuppies", who have never, ever, contributed
to product development are Peter-Principled into positions of authority.

The email addresses of those who have declared that only Windows machines will
be allowed access to the outside world are:

Thor T. Wallace [email protected]
David Pothier [email protected]

David Pothier was a beta tester for Windows/NT. Of course he wants all machines to
be Windows and, naturally, under his control.

Thor Wallace is our new "security" administrator so I am told.

The only Linux advocate in a position of authority is:

Alex Shekhel [email protected]

So, now I hooked up my lap-top, installed Windows.... and here I am. Only windows
machines are allowed to access the outside world.

Cheers,

Richard B. Johnson
Formally [email protected]

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Might I suggest seeking a new employer whose IT department doesn't seek the smell of fresh fertilizer compounds about their head and neck.

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Quoted 6 lines · Richard B. Johnson

This is for information only.

Last week a standard RH distribution of Linux was rooted from what looks like a Russian invasion. The penetration used the method taught in the CERT Advisory CA-2000-17.
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Quoted 2 lines · Richard B. Johnson

So, now I hooked up my lap-top, installed Windows.... and here I am. Only windows machines are allowed to access the outside world.

That is a shame. I can think of two things that might be of use under these circumstances:

- Recent MS operating systems offer a limited version of IP masquerading;

- Monster.com has numerous jobs available.

Best luck for a speedy resolution.

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