>128 MB RAM stability problems (again)
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Quoted 10 lines · Chris Siebenmann
You write:
| I'm kind of astounded now, WHY can't linux-2.4.x run on ANY machine in | my house with more than 128 MB RAM?!? Can someone please point out to me | that he's actually running kernel-2.4.x on a machine with more than 128 | MB RAM and that he's NOT having severe stability problems?Me. Two machines. (Both 2.4.5 high -ac kernels.)
I strongly suggest getting memtest86 and running it on all of your
problematic machines.
I ran memtest tonight on all machines....
It gave 0 errors on all of them.....
So.... this leads to the conclusion that the memory is okay, and that something else must be the problem.... Could it still be a failing power supply or something? It seems both computers have a 230 W power supply. Might be a problem, I guess, I can buy a 400 W thingy if that makes sense.
Other solutions I heard:
- antistatic wrist strap: already have one :-)
- BIOS fiddling... What exactly should I look for? They are, as far as I can see, identical memory sticks, probably both from different suppliers, but besides that quite the same....
- are there different brands of memory of different quality and might that be a possible cause of the problems? And if so - what are good memory brands and what are the bad ones?
- I mixed different types of SDRAM... Could be it.... My mainboard manual is not really clear about this.... And I have no clue what brand of memory I bought... they are all 133 MHz SDRAM sticks, some 64 MB, some 128 MB.... MB manual says it can handle all 64/128 MB sticks...
- <your solution here :-)>
Anyway, thanks for any advice until now and thanks for listening again, hope to hear more solutions.
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Ronald Bultje
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I ran memtest tonight on all machines....
It gave 0 errors on all of them.....So.... this leads to the conclusion that the memory is okay, and that something else must be the problem.... Could it still be a failing power supply or something? It seems both computers have a 230 W power supply. Might be a problem, I guess, I can buy a 400 W thingy if that makes sense.
Happening with me and a 300watt supply...
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I am beta testing the Dockingstation for Creatures, and I got some extras for it. But on my SuSE box the thing freezes within minutes, if use all the agents. Its a very proccessor and memory intensive app. And I have 256MB ram.
Just watched it crash when I started mozilla....
Only just found out people are having issue with RAM and 2.4.5....? I am running 2.4.4....
I do not think the program has a bug...But no-one else is even saying anything which is very annoying.
Matt
Quoted 2 lines · Ronald Bultje
I ran memtest tonight on all machines....
It gave 0 errors on all of them.....
You have dual boot machines(right?) Which boot loader are you using to boot linux? Could this be related to the boot loader messing up the initial state of the machine?
Quoted 3 lines · Reza Roboubi
You have dual boot machines(right?) Which boot loader are you using to boot linux? Could this be related to the boot loader messing up the initial state of the machine?
No, it's the installation so I'm booting from the CD (mdk-8/RH-7.1 installation CDs).
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Ronald Bultje
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So.... this leads to the conclusion that the memory is okay, and that something else must be the problem.... Could it still be a failing power supply or something? It seems both computers have a 230 W power supply. Might be a problem, I guess, I can buy a 400 W thingy if that makes sense.
Can't comment. Another post states that they are using a 400W with problems.
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Other solutions I heard:
- antistatic wrist strap: already have one :-)
- BIOS fiddling... What exactly should I look for? They are, as far as I can see, identical memory sticks, probably both from different suppliers, but besides that quite the same....
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- are there different brands of memory of different quality and might that be a possible cause of the problems? And if so - what are good memory brands and what are the bad ones?
- I mixed different types of SDRAM... Could be it.... My mainboard manual is not really clear about this.... And I have no clue what brand of memory I bought... they are all 133 MHz SDRAM sticks, some 64 MB, some 128 MB.... MB manual says it can handle all 64/128 MB sticks...
- <your solution here :-)>
Are you mixing connector types, ie gold/silver (I can't remember what they are made of )? This _will_ give you problems, among which including stability. You should _always_ match connectors with the mainboard. I apologize if you already know this.
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Anyway, thanks for any advice until now and thanks for listening again, hope to hear more solutions.
See above, I'm just throwing out a potential solution.
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Chris Bacott
Quoted 22 lines · Ronald Bultje
Quoted 10 lines · Chris Siebenmann
You write:
| I'm kind of astounded now, WHY can't linux-2.4.x run on ANY machine in | my house with more than 128 MB RAM?!? Can someone please point out to me | that he's actually running kernel-2.4.x on a machine with more than 128 | MB RAM and that he's NOT having severe stability problems?Me. Two machines. (Both 2.4.5 high -ac kernels.)
I strongly suggest getting memtest86 and running it on all of your
problematic machines.I ran memtest tonight on all machines....
It gave 0 errors on all of them.....So.... this leads to the conclusion that the memory is okay, and that something else must be the problem.... Could it still be a failing power supply or something? It seems both computers have a 230 W power supply. Might be a problem, I guess, I can buy a 400 W thingy if that makes sense.
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Other solutions I heard:
- antistatic wrist strap: already have one :-)
- BIOS fiddling... What exactly should I look for? They are, as far as I can see, identical memory sticks, probably both from different suppliers, but besides that quite the same....
Look for wait states. Add a wait state, which slows down access to the ram (if it doesn't help, put it back where it was).
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- are there different brands of memory of different quality and might that be a possible cause of the problems? And if so - what are good memory brands and what are the bad ones?
- I mixed different types of SDRAM... Could be it.... My mainboard manual is not really clear about this.... And I have no clue what brand of memory I bought... they are all 133 MHz SDRAM sticks, some 64 MB, some 128 MB.... MB manual says it can handle all 64/128 MB sticks...
Mixing different types is a bad thing to leave to chance. Corsair and Kingston I *think* are good brands.
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- <your solution here :-)>
Try each memory stick by itself; if it only fails when both are in at once, reverse the slots they are in; if it still fails, get another stick that is the same brand and type as another, try just those together.
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Anyway, thanks for any advice until now and thanks for listening again, hope to hear more solutions.
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Ronald Bultje-
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Quoted 2 lines · Ronald Bultje
No, it's the installation so I'm booting from the CD (mdk-8/RH-7.1 installation CDs).
Your cd might be corrupted. If you are using the same cd for both machines, try changing it.