RH7.3 keyborad lock-up
Thanks Riley and Ray!
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Basically, to locate the actual problem, we need to confirm the precice differences between a working configuration and one that isn't. Also, where there are two or more programs that can be identified as causing a specific problem in one configuration but not in another, we can be fairly sure that the problem is in something that is common to all of those programs.
For this reason, can you first confirm that you can upgrade tuxracer and chromium to the versions supplied with 7.3 without having this problem turn up on you?
If I try to install tuxracer from 7.3 it is asking for some libraries of which libtcl.so.0 I can not find anywhere.
Chromium is asking as well for several libraries which I can't find at all except for zlib....
Doing ldd /usr/X11R6/bin/xscreensaver I see that there is a library libcrypt.so.1
which is being asked by chromium and I cannot see on the install CDs of RH7.3.
ldd /usr/bin/tuxracer
libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x40026000)
libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x4002f000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x40046000)
libXi.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x40126000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x4012e000)
libXmu.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x4013c000)
libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x40152000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x401a0000)
libtcl8.3.so => /usr/lib/libtcl8.3.so (0x401a4000)
libSDL-1.1.so.0 => /usr/lib/libSDL-1.1.so.0 (0x4022b000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0 (0x40299000)
libSDL_mixer-1.1.so.0 => /usr/lib/libSDL_mixer-1.1.so.0 (0x402ae000)
libGL.so.1 => /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 (0x402e8000)
libGLU.so.1 => /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1 (0x4054a000)
libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 => /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
(0x4055e000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/i686/libm.so.6 (0x405a2000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/i686/libc.so.6 (0x405c6000)
libartsc.so.0 => /usr/lib/libartsc.so.0 (0x406f6000)
libesd.so.0 => /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 (0x406fc000)
libaudiofile.so.0 => /usr/lib/libaudiofile.so.0 (0x40703000)
libsmpeg-0.4.so.0 => /usr/lib/libsmpeg-0.4.so.0 (0x40714000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)ldd /usr/X11R6/bin/xscreensaver
libXmu.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x40026000)
libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x4003c000)
libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x40045000)
libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x4005c000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x400a9000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x40189000)
libpam.so.0 => /lib/libpam.so.0 (0x40197000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x401a0000)
libcrypt.so.1 => /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0x401a4000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/i686/libc.so.6 (0x401d2000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)Quoted 2 lines · [email protected] said:
You will find that the glibc library is common to every program on your system
There is no glibc or is it the same as libc.
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A. If Peter sees the RH 7.3 failure with -ANY- command-line app. (Including the details if the answer is yes.)
B. What video card and X server are involved, and what versions are in the "before" and "after" serups.
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C. When the keyboard locks, is the system still running or not? For example, can you ssh or telnet to it? Can you ping it? I assume the keyboard problem prevents your switching to a vt, but if you have (say) "top" running in an xterm, does it continue to run and show sensible process behavior? Any one of these tests should do; I list several because I can't remember is this system is on a LAN, or what services it might be running if it is.
Answers:
A. I found it only in xsceensaver, tuxracer and chromium which might not exclude others I have not tried. Gnucash, gnumeric, mozilla, opera, staroffice, Xephem all worked with no problem.
B. My mainboard is P6STMT with a SiS630ET chipset which includes integrated built-in video, audio, networking and communication capabilities. X server ??? I guess there was no change.
C. When the keybord locks the system seems still to be running. In chromium the mouse arrow can still be seen moving yet does not respond to clicking and the chromium background music continues playing. In xscreensaver blank screen,
no mouse movement to be seen, time announcement still working. In tuxracer all blank, no music, nothing.
I can't answer the other questions since I am scared to reinstall RH7.3. There is no LAN.
Regards
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Responding only to "my" portion of this message -- I'll leave the libraries part for Riley.
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Thanks Riley and Ray!
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Quoted 2 lines · [email protected] said:
You will find that the glibc library is common to every program on your system
There is no glibc or is it the same as libc.
Yes, it is the same.
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A. If Peter sees the RH 7.3 failure with -ANY- command-line app. (Including the details if the answer is yes.)
B. What video card and X server are involved, and what versions are in the "before" and "after" serups.
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C. When the keyboard locks, is the system still running or not? For example, can you ssh or telnet to it? Can you ping it? I assume the keyboard problem prevents your switching to a vt, but if you have (say) "top" running in an xterm, does it continue to run and show sensible process behavior? Any one of these tests should do; I list several because I can't remember is this system is on a LAN, or what services it might be running if it is.
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A. I found it only in xsceensaver, tuxracer and chromium which might not exclude others I have not tried. Gnucash, gnumeric, mozilla, opera, staroffice, Xephem all worked with no problem.
I did a quick check, and the only resources these three *seem* to have in common are glibc and xlibs. And pretty much everything that is an X app uses those libraries. tuxrecer and chromim are OpenGL apps, but apparently xscreensaver is not.
The one characteristic I see as common to the three problem apps, but absent in the OK apps, is speed and frequency of screen updating. They would be more likely to trip an infrequently occurring failure in the X server, simply because they make a lot more calls to it.
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B. My mainboard is P6STMT with a SiS630ET chipset which includes integrated built-in video, audio, networking and communication capabilities. X server ??? I guess there was no change.
Bad guess. I'd bet that you are switching from XFree86-3.3.6 or so to XFree86-4.something, and this is a big change. I'm not sure where RH puts X config info, but look for a file named XF86Config (maybe /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 for the new version) to see which X server you are running.
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C. When the keybord locks the system seems still to be running. In chromium the mouse arrow can still be seen moving yet does not respond to clicking and the chromium background music continues playing. In xscreensaver blank screen,
no mouse movement to be seen, time announcement still working. In tuxracer all blank, no music, nothing.
I can't answer the other questions since I am scared to reinstall RH7.3. There is no LAN.
Yes, this sounds like the problem is limited to a console failure, and that it is specific to X. That makes the kernel an unlikely source for the problem. I'd lean toward an undiagnosed incompatibility between your onboard video and the X server that the RH installed is guessing is right for it.
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