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Hello,

Here's the dumb question; Is my AMD Duron with VIA-KT133 capable of freq. stepping? (to reduce temp. in my server.)
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Quoted 4 lines · Japie

Hello,

Here's the dumb question; Is my AMD Duron with VIA-KT133 capable of freq. stepping? (to reduce temp. in my server.)

No, there's no frequency scaling for AMD Duron. But maybe throttling (power consumption is reduced linear to processing power) is available - try out ACPI [http://acpi.sf.net for more information]

Dominik

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No, there's no frequency scaling for AMD Duron. But maybe throttling (power consumption is reduced linear to processing power) is available - try out ACPI [http://acpi.sf.net for more information]

That's something I've wondered about for a while - precisely what determines whether throttling is available? Is that another one of these "should only depend on the processor, unless you have a stupid BIOS" things? For instance, ACPI tells me that throttling is not available on my Athlon XP 1800:

$ cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/info
processor id:            0
acpi id:                 1
bus mastering control:   yes
power management:        yes
throttling control:      no
performance management:  no
limit interface:         no
$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor       : 0
vendor_id       : AuthenticAMD
cpu family      : 6
model           : 8
model name      : mobile AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1800+
stepping        : 0
cpu MHz         : 1500.590
cache size      : 256 KB
fdiv_bug        : no
hlt_bug         : no
f00f_bug        : no
coma_bug        : no
fpu             : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level     : 1
wp              : yes
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca
cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mp mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow
bogomips        : 2957.31

- Johan

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Am Freitag, 20. Juni 2003 19:44 schrieb Dominik Brodowski:

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Hello,

Here's the dumb question; Is my AMD Duron with VIA-KT133 capable of freq. stepping? (to reduce temp. in my server.)

No, there's no frequency scaling for AMD Duron. But maybe throttling (power consumption is reduced linear to processing power) is available - try out ACPI [http://acpi.sf.net for more information]

Maybe I miss understood the whole cpufreq thing. but doesn't the cpufreq thing do exactly that thing. My AMD Duron 1.1 GHz can be slowed down to 500MHz with your backport from cpufreq to 2.4.19, or did I get something wrong

Gregor

btw: will there be any backport of powernow-k7 to 2.4.21?

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Quoting Gregor Hlawacek <[email protected]>:

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No, there's no frequency scaling for AMD Duron. But maybe throttling (power consumption is reduced linear to processing power) is available

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try out ACPI [http://acpi.sf.net for more information]

Maybe I miss understood the whole cpufreq thing. but doesn't the cpufreq thing do exactly that thing. My AMD Duron 1.1 GHz can be slowed down to 500MHz with your backport from cpufreq to 2.4.19, or did I get something wrong

The Regular AMD Duron has no support for PowerNow, and hence no support for CPUFreq. Some versions of the AMD Mobile Duron _do_ have support for PowerNow and CPUFreq. You probably have an AMD Mobile Duron, not an AMD Duron. Different chip.

Carl Thompson

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Gregor

btw: will there be any backport of powernow-k7 to 2.4.21?

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Am Samstag, 21. Juni 2003 21:35 schrieb Carl Thompson:

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Quoting Gregor Hlawacek <[email protected]>:

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No, there's no frequency scaling for AMD Duron. But maybe throttling (power consumption is reduced linear to processing power) is available

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try out ACPI [http://acpi.sf.net for more information]

Maybe I miss understood the whole cpufreq thing. but doesn't the cpufreq thing do exactly that thing. My AMD Duron 1.1 GHz can be slowed down to 500MHz with your backport from cpufreq to 2.4.19, or did I get something wrong

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The Regular AMD Duron has no support for PowerNow, and hence no support for CPUFreq. Some versions of the AMD Mobile Duron _do_ have support for PowerNow and CPUFreq. You probably have an AMD Mobile Duron, not an AMD Duron. Different chip.

Ähmm okay your point thats right sorry

Gregor

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Carl Thompson

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Gregor

btw: will there be any backport of powernow-k7 to 2.4.21?

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