O1int with contest
Hi guys,
Here are some numbers from three kernels tested on my home machine. All threes are 2.5.73 based.
Vanilla is a plain one, O1int-0307020011 is the latest (as I last checked) O1int patch w/o the granularity patch, and O1int-granu-0307020011 is the former with granularity.
One can see that with granularity, the kernel compile suffers a bit, but the response is usually high. In my machine, this was the kernel with the best responsiveness.
Each kernel was run once, except O1int-0307020011 with three iterations. This was the first I tested, and as soon I noticed the time it took, I decided to run once the others 8). Maybe this has some bad influence on the results. I appreciate any comments...
regards,
Roberto
no_load:
Kernel [runs] Time CPU% Loads LCPU% Ratio
O1int-0307020011 3 122 93.4 0.0 0.0 1.00 O1int-granu-0307020011 1 124 93.5 0.0 0.0 1.00 vanilla 1 123 92.7 0.0 0.0 1.00 cacherun: Kernel [runs] Time CPU% Loads LCPU% Ratio O1int-0307020011 3 115 99.1 0.0 0.0 0.94 O1int-granu-0307020011 1 119 97.5 0.0 0.0 0.96 vanilla 1 116 98.3 0.0 0.0 0.94 process_load: Kernel [runs] Time CPU% Loads LCPU% Ratio O1int-0307020011 3 161 70.8 72.5 27.3 1.32 O1int-granu-0307020011 1 166 69.9 79.0 28.7 1.34 vanilla 1 160 71.2 79.0 27.5 1.30 ctar_load: Kernel [runs] Time CPU% Loads LCPU% Ratio O1int-0307020011 3 154 77.3 1.0 3.2 1.26 O1int-granu-0307020011 1 163 74.8 2.0 7.4 1.31 vanilla 1 161 74.5 2.0 7.5 1.31 xtar_load: Kernel [runs] Time CPU% Loads LCPU% Ratio O1int-0307020011 3 160 72.5 1.0 6.2 1.31 O1int-granu-0307020011 1 166 71.1 1.0 7.2 1.34 vanilla 1 160 72.5 1.0 7.5 1.30 io_load: Kernel [runs] Time CPU% Loads LCPU% Ratio O1int-0307020011 3 310 39.0 66.3 15.4 2.54 O1int-granu-0307020011 1 332 36.7 75.8 16.3 2.68 vanilla 1 306 39.5 71.7 16.7 2.49 io_other: Kernel [runs] Time CPU% Loads LCPU% Ratio O1int-0307020011 3 286 42.3 62.3 16.0 2.34 O1int-granu-0307020011 1 296 41.2 65.4 15.9 2.39 vanilla 1 364 33.2 93.0 18.7 2.96 read_load: Kernel [runs] Time CPU% Loads LCPU% Ratio O1int-0307020011 3 156 75.0 5.4 3.2 1.28 O1int-granu-0307020011 1 159 75.5 5.7 3.8 1.28 vanilla 1 155 76.1 5.7 3.9 1.26 list_load: Kernel [runs] Time CPU% Loads LCPU% Ratio O1int-0307020011 3 147 79.6 0.0 7.5 1.20 O1int-granu-0307020011 1 149 79.2 0.0 7.4 1.20 vanilla 1 147 79.6 0.0 7.5 1.20 mem_load: Kernel [runs] Time CPU% Loads LCPU% Ratio O1int-0307020011 3 177 65.5 42.3 1.1 1.45 O1int-granu-0307020011 1 188 62.8 43.0 1.1 1.52 vanilla 1 189 61.9 44.0 1.1 1.54 dbench_load: Kernel [runs] Time CPU% Loads LCPU% Ratio O1int-0307020011 3 152 75.0 23535.3 19.1 1.25 O1int-granu-0307020011 1 142 82.4 20464.0 16.2 1.15 vanilla 1 149 76.5 27791.0 20.8 1.21
Quoted 7 lines · Roberto Orenstein
Hi guys,
Here are some numbers from three kernels tested on my home machine. All threes are 2.5.73 based.
Vanilla is a plain one, O1int-0307020011 is the latest (as I last checked) O1int patch w/o the granularity patch, and O1int-granu-0307020011 is the former with granularity.
Thanks for doing these.
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One can see that with granularity, the kernel compile suffers a bit, but the response is usually high. In my machine, this was the kernel with the best responsiveness.
Can you please describe your experiences? The more feedback I get the more I can get it working well.
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Each kernel was run once, except O1int-0307020011 with three iterations. This was the first I tested, and as soon I noticed the time it took, I decided to run once the others 8). Maybe this has some bad influence on the results. I appreciate any comments...
Ok well here is my summary of the situation. My patch has virtually no effect on contest results (except perhaps io_other). This is good because my earlier attempts did affect it, and possibly starved some of the loads. Dare I say it, contest is not very good at picking up _these_ sort of scheduler tweaks unless they do something wrong. Sorry if my system responsiveness benchmark doesn't show this effect; I think they're different. This is more about picking the right thing to give preference to. There's a long discussion in that, but I'll try not to get into it.
By the way it doesn't look like your dbench in dbench load actually worked.
O1int still remains a work in progress.
Con
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Quoted 7 lines · Roberto Orenstein
Hi guys,
Here are some numbers from three kernels tested on my home machine. All threes are 2.5.73 based.
Vanilla is a plain one, O1int-0307020011 is the latest (as I last checked) O1int patch w/o the granularity patch, and O1int-granu-0307020011 is the former with granularity.
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Thanks for doing these.
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One can see that with granularity, the kernel compile suffers a bit, but the response is usually high. In my machine, this was the kernel with the best responsiveness.
Can you please describe your experiences? The more feedback I get the more I can get it working well.
Well, basically I load the machine with some make -j nuts_number_here, and I do some other things. The vanilla kernel always behaves badly, with things like switching windows, loading web pages taking a visible amount of time to get some cpu attention. The others always win. I mean, for every load, ranging from a make -j5 to a make -j25 the system _feels_ better than vanilla. With granularity, it was quite noticeable (but the kernel compiles were noticeable longer too - some you win and some you loose :-).
As I said to you on IRC, I wasn't able to make xmms skip with any kernels (does anyone have a recipe for this?), which I guess is the issue that started this thread.
The only issue I had was with app startup time (although starting a new X session was indeed faster - strange).
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Each kernel was run once, except O1int-0307020011 with three iterations. This was the first I tested, and as soon I noticed the time it took, I decided to run once the others 8). Maybe this has some bad influence on the results. I appreciate any comments...
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Ok well here is my summary of the situation. My patch has virtually no effect on contest results (except perhaps
io_other). This is good because my earlier attempts did affect it, and possibly starved some of the loads. Dare I say it, contest is not very good at picking up _these_ sort of scheduler tweaks unless they do something wrong. Sorry if my system responsiveness benchmark doesn't show this effect; I think they're different. This is more about picking the right thing to give preference to. There's a long discussion in that, but I'll try not to get into it.
Well, if things doesn't get worse, it's already a start, right? :-) In fact I believe it's moving forward. It feels clearly better than plain 2.5.73, but I don't know if others share the same view. My tests weren't very scientific nor realistic, it's just a matter of 'looks good'. Although I think 'feels good' is sometimes better than a lot of numbers. If there's a way to get some precise numbers, let me know of it. I thought that contest was a good choice.
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By the way it doesn't look like your dbench in dbench load actually worked.
Dunno what happened, I've Followed All The Instructions(TM). I'll look at this later.
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O1int still remains a work in progress.
I'll test your latest patch later to see the improvements. Should I run another contest on it or doesn't make any difference?
regards,
Roberto