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Include Bépo in the set of default layouts

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Hi,

I’m french (sorry if I do some mistakes), and I’m using the Bépo keyboard layout. It’s a popular Dvorak-like French-optimized keyboard layout. Some reasons to include it:

– Bépo layout is popular, see the number of people registered on our forum:
http://forum.bepo.fr/userlist.php (if we don’t count people with 0 messages posted, 33 + 50 × 8 = 433), or on Linuxfr.org:
https://linuxfr.org/sondages/la-disposition-b%C3%A9po%E2%80%A6 (203 people claims that they use Bépo, 114 wants to use it and 443 says “maybe one day”). Some of this people created Ergodis, an association to promote Bépo (but not only).

– physical Bépo keyboards. How to install a distro if we can’t use our
keyboard? (http://typematrix.com/bepo.php and http://www.ceciaa.com/clavier-ergoneos-fort-contraste-disposition-bepo-c2391-7.php for example).

– Bépo isn’t available on some distributions, so it’s not easy to install it, especially for “noobs”. Bépo directly in kbd means no maintenance problems for distributions and unified and simple solution to the problem.

– Bépo layout won’t evolve anymore (instead, we want to do a new (perfect?) keyboard layout for the (far?) future). It means no maintenance burden for you. Also, it’s less than 85 KiB (licences included)

So, what do you think about this idea?

Best,

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Quoted 22 lines · Sébastien

Hi,

I’m french (sorry if I do some mistakes), and I’m using the Bépo keyboard layout. It’s a popular Dvorak-like French-optimized keyboard layout. Some reasons to include it:

– Bépo layout is popular, see the number of people registered on our forum:
http://forum.bepo.fr/userlist.php (if we don’t count people with 0 messages posted, 33 + 50 × 8 = 433), or on Linuxfr.org:
https://linuxfr.org/sondages/la-disposition-b%C3%A9po%E2%80%A6 (203 people claims that they use Bépo, 114 wants to use it and 443 says “maybe one day”). Some of this people created Ergodis, an association to promote Bépo (but not only).

– physical Bépo keyboards. How to install a distro if we can’t use our
keyboard? (http://typematrix.com/bepo.php and http://www.ceciaa.com/clavier-ergoneos-fort-contraste-disposition-bepo-c2391-7.php for example).

– Bépo isn’t available on some distributions, so it’s not easy to install it, especially for “noobs”. Bépo directly in kbd means no maintenance problems for distributions and unified and simple solution to the problem.

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– Bépo layout won’t evolve anymore (instead, we want to do a new (perfect?) keyboard layout for the (far?) future). It means no maintenance burden for you. Also, it’s less than 85 KiB (licences included)

So, what do you think about this idea?

I have no objections about it.

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Quoted 34 lines · Le dimanche 21 avril 2013 22:03:22 Alexey Gladkov a écrit :
Quoted 33 lines · Sébastien

Hi,

I’m french (sorry if I do some mistakes), and I’m using the Bépo keyboard layout. It’s a popular Dvorak-like French-optimized keyboard layout. Some reasons to include it:

– Bépo layout is popular, see the number of people registered on our forum:
http://forum.bepo.fr/userlist.php (if we don’t count people with 0 messages
posted, 33 + 50 × 8 = 433), or on Linuxfr.org:
https://linuxfr.org/sondages/la-disposition-b%C3%A9po%E2%80%A6 (203 people claims that they use Bépo, 114 wants to use it and 443 says “maybe one day”). Some of this people created Ergodis, an association to promote Bépo (but not only).

– physical Bépo keyboards. How to install a distro if we can’t use our keyboard? (http://typematrix.com/bepo.php and
http://www.ceciaa.com/clavier-ergoneos-fort-contraste-disposition-bepo-c2
391-7.php for example).

– Bépo isn’t available on some distributions, so it’s not easy to install it, especially for “noobs”. Bépo directly in kbd means no maintenance problems for distributions and unified and simple solution to the problem.

– Bépo layout won’t evolve anymore (instead, we want to do a new (perfect?)
keyboard layout for the (far?) future). It means no maintenance burden for you. Also, it’s less than 85 KiB (licences included)

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So, what do you think about this idea?

I have no objections about it.

How do you make decisions here? Anybody is responsible of keyboard layouts?

However, the archive which contains all the files are here:
http://download.tuxfamily.org/dvorak/keymaps/fr-dvorak-bepo-keymaps-1.0rc2.tgz

(Yes it’s RC2, it’s the version we’ve freezed)

P.-S.: In the fr-dvorak-bepo.map, a dev puts a comment:
“CapsLock with '+eacute' doesn't work, nor with egrave, ccedilla, ecircumflex, agrave and guillemotleft/right : bug ?”
Do you know how to resolve this problem? It’s better to check if everything is ok before including it, isn’t it?

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So, what do you think about this idea?

I have no objections about it.

How do you make decisions here? Anybody is responsible of keyboard layouts?

At the moment, I support the code and keymaps, so I make the decisions about it.

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However, the archive which contains all the files are here:
http://download.tuxfamily.org/dvorak/keymaps/fr-dvorak-bepo-keymaps-1.0rc2.tgz

I'll look at it in the near future.

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P.-S.: In the fr-dvorak-bepo.map, a dev puts a comment:
“CapsLock with '+eacute' doesn't work, nor with egrave, ccedilla, ecircumflex, agrave and guillemotleft/right : bug ?”
Do you know how to resolve this problem? It’s better to check if everything is ok before including it, isn’t it?

Yes. I'll look in the parser for this.

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