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VHT MU-MIMO correction

RFC Johannes Berg 1 participant 3 messages Oct 21, 2015 – Jan 20, 2016 2 messages not in the archive

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Hi,

As we're looking into MU-MIMO again, we found some issue with the way the VHT radiotap field is defined. The issue is the following: the VHT SIG-A field defines the NSTS (NSS) for each user, and it would be good to have that shown. However, radiotap ties the validity of the MCS to the existence of the NSS, which is incorrect.

Therefore, I suggest to make the following edit:

Change this language:

If the NSS field for a user is zero, the user is not present and the MCS and coding (in the coding field) associated with that user are not valid. For SU PPDUs, only the first user will have a nonzero NSS field.

To read:

If the NSS field for a user is zero, the user is not present and the MCS and coding (in the coding field) associated with that user are not valid. If the NSS field for a user is non-zero, but the MCS is not known (for example due to receiving only data for a single user), the MCS shall be set to 15.
For SU PPDUs, only the first user will have a nonzero NSS field.

The coding should be known for all, since it's also part of VHT-SIG-A, so I'm not suggesting to add validity flags for that. Does anyone think that is necessary?

A wireshark patch won't really be necessary since it will already display the MCS as "15 (invalid)" in this case, which seems reasonable though it could be changed to just "not known" instead.

johannes

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I guess this has passed a three-week minimum review time - bump, I'll make those changes unless I hear objections within ~a week?

johannes

Quoted 37 lines · Johannes Berg

Hi,

As we're looking into MU-MIMO again, we found some issue with the way the VHT radiotap field is defined. The issue is the following: the VHT SIG-A field defines the NSTS (NSS) for each user, and it would be good to have that shown. However, radiotap ties the validity of the MCS to the existence of the NSS, which is incorrect.

Therefore, I suggest to make the following edit:

Change this language:

    If the NSS field for a user is zero, the user is not present and the MCS and coding (in the coding field) associated with that user are not valid. For SU PPDUs, only the first user will have a nonzero NSS field.

To read:

    If the NSS field for a user is zero, the user is not present and the MCS and coding (in the coding field) associated with that user are not valid. If the NSS field for a user is non-zero, but the MCS is not known (for example due to receiving only data for a single user), the MCS shall be set to 15.
    For SU PPDUs, only the first user will have a nonzero NSS field.

The coding should be known for all, since it's also part of VHT-SIG-A, so I'm not suggesting to add validity flags for that. Does anyone think that is necessary?

A wireshark patch won't really be necessary since it will already display the MCS as "15 (invalid)" in this case, which seems reasonable though it could be changed to just "not known" instead.

johannes

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Quoted 3 lines · Johannes Berg

I guess this has passed a three-week minimum review time - bump, I'll make those changes unless I hear objections within ~a week?

Quite late, but I've made those changes now.

johannes