Bouncing messages from [email protected]

Hi Post Master,
Any idea what's up with the below message?

To Fangrui, it sounded like his patch wasn't delivered to our list but the message Fangrui sent was indeed posted.
https://lore.kernel.org/llvm/[email protected]/

Can the error be reworded possibly to elucidate what's going on?

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Fangrui Song <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 10:36 AM
Subject: Fwd: Bouncing messages from [email protected]
To: Nick Desaulniers <[email protected]>

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 3:30 PM
Subject: Bouncing messages from [email protected]
To: <[email protected]>

Greetings!

This is the mlmmj program managing the <[email protected]> mailing list.

Some messages to you could not be delivered. If you're seeing this message it means things are back to normal, and it's merely for your information.

Here is the list of the bounced messages:
- 11406

--
宋方睿

Signature · 2 lines

Thanks,
~Nick Desaulniers

Quoted 8 lines · Nick Desaulniers' via Systems Administrators

Hi Post Master,
Any idea what's up with the below message?

To Fangrui, it sounded like his patch wasn't delivered to our list but the message Fangrui sent was indeed posted.
https://lore.kernel.org/llvm/[email protected]/

Can the error be reworded possibly to elucidate what's going on?

This happens in a rare case when we mistakenly allow a spam message through, which is this one:

https://lore.kernel.org/llvm/[email protected]/

when we tried to deliver this message to [email protected], Google's spam filters rejected it, so we got back a bounce. When this happens, mlmmj follows up with a probe email to make sure the address is still valid, which is the message you received.

This behaviour is indeed a bit confusing, but it's not about the mail you sent out, just the spam your MX refused to receive.

HTH,
Konstantin

Quoted 36 lines

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Fangrui Song <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 10:36 AM
Subject: Fwd: Bouncing messages from [email protected]
To: Nick Desaulniers <[email protected]>

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 3:30 PM
Subject: Bouncing messages from [email protected]
To: <[email protected]>

Greetings!

This is the mlmmj program managing the <[email protected]> mailing list.

Some messages to you could not be delivered. If you're seeing this message it means things are back to normal, and it's merely for your information.

Here is the list of the bounced messages:
- 11406

--
宋方睿

--
Thanks,
~Nick Desaulniers

Quoted 21 lines · Konstantin Ryabitsev

Quoted 8 lines · Nick Desaulniers' via Systems Administrators

Hi Post Master,
Any idea what's up with the below message?

To Fangrui, it sounded like his patch wasn't delivered to our list but the message Fangrui sent was indeed posted.
https://lore.kernel.org/llvm/[email protected]/

Can the error be reworded possibly to elucidate what's going on?

This happens in a rare case when we mistakenly allow a spam message through, which is this one:

https://lore.kernel.org/llvm/[email protected]/

when we tried to deliver this message to [email protected], Google's spam filters rejected it, so we got back a bounce. When this happens, mlmmj follows up with a probe email to make sure the address is still valid, which is the message you received.

Quoted 2 lines

This behaviour is indeed a bit confusing, but it's not about the mail you sent out, just the spam your MX refused to receive.

Cool, thanks for the explanation.

Any chance the error message could say something like:

The message at
https://lore.kernel.org/llvm/[email protected]/
could not be delivered to you; it may be spam but you might want to verify.

Since I suspect the message id will be in the lore URL?

Quoted 40 lines

HTH,
Konstantin

Quoted 36 lines

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Fangrui Song <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 10:36 AM
Subject: Fwd: Bouncing messages from [email protected]
To: Nick Desaulniers <[email protected]>

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 3:30 PM
Subject: Bouncing messages from [email protected]
To: <[email protected]>

Greetings!

This is the mlmmj program managing the <[email protected]> mailing list.

Some messages to you could not be delivered. If you're seeing this message it means things are back to normal, and it's merely for your information.

Here is the list of the bounced messages:
- 11406

--
宋方睿

--
Thanks,
~Nick Desaulniers

--
Thanks,
~Nick Desaulniers

Any chance the error message could say something like:

The message at
https://lore.kernel.org/llvm/[email protected]/
could not be delivered to you; it may be spam but you might want to verify.

Quoted 5 lines · Nick Desaulniers

Any chance the error message could say something like:

The message at
https://lore.kernel.org/llvm/[email protected]/
could not be delivered to you; it may be spam but you might want to verify.

Unfortunately, mlmmj doesn't give me access to the message-id of the bouncing message (see http://mlmmj.org/docs/readme-listtexts/).

I will tweak the wording to offer a bit more explanation, though, something like:

Some messages to you could not be delivered. This usually happens if we have accepted a spam message that is being rejected by your mail host when we try to deliver it, but may also be due to other reasons. Please review the public list archives to check if you are missing any legitimate mail.

If you're seeing this message it usually means that things are back to normal and no further action is required from you.

Here is the list of the bounced messages:
- %bouncenumbers%

-K

Quoted 25 lines · Konstantin Ryabitsev

Quoted 5 lines · Nick Desaulniers

Any chance the error message could say something like:

The message at
https://lore.kernel.org/llvm/[email protected]/
could not be delivered to you; it may be spam but you might want to verify.

Unfortunately, mlmmj doesn't give me access to the message-id of the bouncing message (see http://mlmmj.org/docs/readme-listtexts/).

I will tweak the wording to offer a bit more explanation, though, something like:

Some messages to you could not be delivered. This usually happens if we have accepted a spam message that is being rejected by your mail host when we try to deliver it, but may also be due to other reasons. Please review the public list archives to check if you are missing any legitimate mail.

If you're seeing this message it usually means that things are back to normal and no further action is required from you.

Here is the list of the bounced messages:
- %bouncenumbers%

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-K

LGTM; thanks Konstantin!

--
Thanks,
~Nick Desaulniers