pdc20265 problem.
Quoted 2 lines · Andre Hedrick
Page 40 of manual: choose Onboard IDE or FastTrak ATA-100/RAID. OnboardIDE means Serverworks, FastTrak means PDC20265. BIOS settings for primary/secondary disk relate to the Serverworks channels.
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Page 11: Primary/secondary IDE: VIA, RAID primary/secondary: PDC. Page 33: Primary/secondary IDE settings relate to the VIA.
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Page 5: Integrated PCI IDE (it talks about i845 internal) + integrated IDE RAID (20267, so no relevance here). Page 28:
primary/secondary disables i845, not PDC.
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Serverworks, with IDE. Serverworks IDE is primary. RAID is 20267, so no relevance. Manual not available yet.
VIA onboard, HPT370 RAID. Connectors of RAID marked IDE3/IDE4.
8k3a has no RAID. 8k3a+ has PDC20267. Primary IDE is from VIA, RAID is additional...
Manual unavailable from the web (404 Page not found after clicking on manual). Picture shows IDE #1/IDE #2 (VIA) and IDE RAID #1/#2. Besides that it has PDC20267, so it has no relevance to this discussion.
Manual page #10: IDE1/IDE2 for VIA, IDE RAID #1/#2 for PDC. Page 14: 2 IDE bus master interfaces support UDMA/100 (listed first), 2 IDE RAID connectors (listed later). Page 49: IDE primary/secondary settings relate to the VIA.
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all know better, are wiser, empower w/ megalmania (sp) and gawd knows what else. Please next time, do your homework before you attempt to call me on these issues. Do the two word "Native" and "Compatablity" in ATA-ATAPI have meaning? This will help you go a long way.
I did my homework. I still believe that there is NO MAINBOARD with PDC20265, and without southbridge IDE - be it VIA, SiS, Intel or Nvidia. All motherboards you listed have PDC (or HPT) as an additional controller, and manual always refers to southbridge as IDE#1/IDE#2, while PDC is referred as IDE RAID#1/#2, or even as IDE#3/IDE#4.
If you tried to prove that PDC20265 should never be ide0/ide1, then we are on the same boat.
Petr Vandrovec [email protected]
P.S.: Both Tyan and Epox should make their ftp servers much, much faster...
Clearly the difference between what is silkscreened and the usage intent is beyond the obvious :-/ Since I have had or still have first hand experience in the observed behaior under Linux and MicroSoft, you are going by what is read. Book knowledges gets you books not reality. try a few w/ all of them bootable and see what happens. So until Linux gets a clue about EDDS 2.0 and or 3.0 it has not a chance of getting the correct hd0/hd1 from the INT13/19 services. Obviously experience and first hand knowledge of reality is worthless in Linux. I am out of this thread.
Cheers,
Andre Hedrick
LAD Storage Consulting Group
Quoted 66 lines · Petr Vandrovec
Quoted 2 lines · Andre Hedrick
Page 40 of manual: choose Onboard IDE or FastTrak ATA-100/RAID. OnboardIDE means Serverworks, FastTrak means PDC20265. BIOS settings for primary/secondary disk relate to the Serverworks channels.
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Page 11: Primary/secondary IDE: VIA, RAID primary/secondary: PDC. Page 33: Primary/secondary IDE settings relate to the VIA.
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Page 5: Integrated PCI IDE (it talks about i845 internal) + integrated IDE RAID (20267, so no relevance here). Page 28:
primary/secondary disables i845, not PDC.Quoted 1 line
Serverworks, with IDE. Serverworks IDE is primary. RAID is 20267, so no relevance. Manual not available yet.
VIA onboard, HPT370 RAID. Connectors of RAID marked IDE3/IDE4.
8k3a has no RAID. 8k3a+ has PDC20267. Primary IDE is from VIA, RAID is additional...
Manual unavailable from the web (404 Page not found after clicking on manual). Picture shows IDE #1/IDE #2 (VIA) and IDE RAID #1/#2. Besides that it has PDC20267, so it has no relevance to this discussion.
Manual page #10: IDE1/IDE2 for VIA, IDE RAID #1/#2 for PDC. Page 14: 2 IDE bus master interfaces support UDMA/100 (listed first), 2 IDE RAID connectors (listed later). Page 49: IDE primary/secondary settings relate to the VIA.
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all know better, are wiser, empower w/ megalmania (sp) and gawd knows what else. Please next time, do your homework before you attempt to call me on these issues. Do the two word "Native" and "Compatablity" in ATA-ATAPI have meaning? This will help you go a long way.
I did my homework. I still believe that there is NO MAINBOARD with PDC20265, and without southbridge IDE - be it VIA, SiS, Intel or Nvidia. All motherboards you listed have PDC (or HPT) as an additional controller, and manual always refers to southbridge as IDE#1/IDE#2, while PDC is referred as IDE RAID#1/#2, or even as IDE#3/IDE#4.
If you tried to prove that PDC20265 should never be ide0/ide1, then we are on the same boat.
Petr Vandrovec [email protected]
P.S.: Both Tyan and Epox should make their ftp servers much, much faster...
Uz.ytkownik Andre Hedrick napisa?:
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Clearly the difference between what is silkscreened and the usage intent is beyond the obvious :-/ Since I have had or still have first hand experience in the observed behaior under Linux and MicroSoft, you are going by what is read. Book knowledges gets you books not reality. try a few w/ all of them bootable and see what happens. So until Linux gets a clue about EDDS 2.0 and or 3.0 it has not a chance of getting the correct hd0/hd1 from the INT13/19 services. Obviously experience and first hand knowledge of reality is worthless in Linux. I am out of this thread.
BTW. EDDS is up to level 3.3
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Uz.ytkownik Andre Hedrick napisa?:
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Clearly the difference between what is silkscreened and the usage intent is beyond the obvious :-/ Since I have had or still have first hand experience in the observed behaior under Linux and MicroSoft, you are going by what is read. Book knowledges gets you books not reality. try a few w/ all of them bootable and see what happens. So until Linux gets a clue about EDDS 2.0 and or 3.0 it has not a chance of getting the correct hd0/hd1 from the INT13/19 services. Obviously experience and first hand knowledge of reality is worthless in Linux. I am out of this thread.
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BTW. EDDS is up to level 3.3
That is nice to know since it has never been submitted to the Committee and the last time I checked with the author it was 3.0. Then again you are so vast with knowledge, maybe you submitted 3.3 ... LOL.
You are so full of BULLSHIT it is no longer funny.
e02112r1 is the current revision for project proposal for EDDS 3.0.
Gee, where is Martin's name and or Company to be found for the adoption into ATA-7.
No where.
Andre Hedrick
LAD Storage Consulting Group