IP Acounting Idea for 2.5
Leif Sawyer <[email protected]>:
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From: Ian Stirling [mailto:[email protected]]
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Manfred Bartz responded to
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Russell King <[email protected]> who writes:
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You just illustrated my point. While there is a reset capability people will use it and accounting/logging programs will get wrong data. Resetable counters might be a minor convenience
when debugging
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but the price is unreliable programs and the loss of the
ability of
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several programs to use the same counters.
You of course, are commenting from the fact that your
applications are
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stupid, written poorly, and cannot handle 'wrapped' data. Take MRTG
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Similarly, if my InPackets are at 102345 at one read, and
2345 the next
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read,
and I know that my counter is 32 bits, then I know i'vewrapped and can do
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I think the point being made is that if InPackets are at 102345 at one read,
and 2345 the next, and you know it's a 32 bit counter, it's completely unreliable to assume that you have in fact recieved 4294867295 packets, if the counter can be zeroed.
You can say nothing other than at least 2345 packets, at most 2345+n*2^32 have been got since you last checked.Ah, yes.. I seem to have misplaced a bit of text in my reply.
The continuation of thought:
How the application derives the status of a wrapped counter or a zero'ed counter is dependant on the device being monitored.
Yes, you have to know what your interface is capable of (maxbytes/sec) so that you can do a simple calculation where:
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maximum_throughput=maxbytes_sec* (time_now-time_last_read)and if your previous good counter + the maximum throughput wraps the counter, you have a good chance that you've simply wrapped.
If not, then you can assume that your counters were cleared at some point, log the data you've got, and keep moving forward.
And that introduces errors in measurement. It also depends on how frequently an uncontroled process is clearing the counters. You may never be able to get a valid measurement.
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Jesse I Pollard, II
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