Petition Against Official Endorsement of BitKeeper by Linux Maintainers
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Quoted 7 lines · Andrew Morton
Quoted 3 lines · The Open Source Club at The Ohio State University
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fwiw, I prefer to not use bitkeeper, for the reasons which you outline.
I also prefer not to use Bitkeeper as long as possible for similar reasons and because it is too slow and clumpsy
(although it is already very hard because often source is only available through it, e.g. for ppc or for 2.5 pre patches now -- hopefully this trend does not continue)
-Andi
Quoted 6 lines · Andi Kleen
Quoted 5 lines · Andrew Morton
Quoted 3 lines · The Open Source Club at The Ohio State University
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fwiw, I prefer to not use bitkeeper, for the reasons which you outline.
I also prefer not to use Bitkeeper as long as possible for similar reasons and because it is too slow and clumpsy
(although it is already very hard because often source is only available through it, e.g. for ppc or for 2.5 pre patches now -- hopefully this trend does not continue)
The PPC trees are available through rsync as well.
http://www.penguinppc.org/dev/kernel.shtml
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
Geert
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Quoted 9 lines · Geert Uytterhoeven
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I also prefer not to use Bitkeeper as long as possible for similar reasons and because it is too slow and clumpsy
(although it is already very hard because often source is only available through it, e.g. for ppc or for 2.5 pre patches now -- hopefully this trend does not continue)The PPC trees are available through rsync as well.
With rsync you get only the latest version, but not any previous version. For APUS I have to use bk to extract the ppc tree version I want to import, for m68k I only have to go to ftp.kernel.org and grab the right patch.
bye, Roman
Quoted 10 lines · Roman Zippel
Hi,
Quoted 6 lines · Geert Uytterhoeven
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I also prefer not to use Bitkeeper as long as possible for similar reasons and because it is too slow and clumpsy
(although it is already very hard because often source is only available through it, e.g. for ppc or for 2.5 pre patches now -- hopefully this trend does not continue)
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The PPC trees are available through rsync as well.
With rsync you get only the latest version, but not any previous version. For APUS I have to use bk to extract the ppc tree version I want to import, for m68k I only have to go to ftp.kernel.org and grab the right patch.
Is the problem that you can't figure out how to extract all the patches from BK so you can put them up for FTP? Here, I'll do it for you:
# extract all the patches from 2.5.0 onward. bk prs -hrv2.5.0.. | while read x do bk export -tpatch -r$i > ~ftp/patches/patch-$i done
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--- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm
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Quoted 2 lines · Larry McVoy
Is the problem that you can't figure out how to extract all the patches from BK so you can put them up for FTP? Here, I'll do it for you:
Do it for the ppc guys, not me.
bye, Roman
Quoted 10 lines · Roman Zippel
Hi,
Quoted 2 lines · Larry McVoy
Is the problem that you can't figure out how to extract all the patches from BK so you can put them up for FTP? Here, I'll do it for you:
Do it for the ppc guys, not me.
bye, Roman
You really don't want every changeset as a patch :-/
Please talk to Jeramy, or someone else running penguinppc.org. At one point we had patches being generated for every changesets. It got to be too much of a headache.
Write some scripts to generage a patch every week or so, and we'll put it up.
What I'd really like is some kind of one-way bk->$OTHER_SCM mirror setup simply so people can pull stuff out without BK.
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Quoted 4 lines · Larry McVoy
# extract all the patches from 2.5.0 onward. bk prs -hrv2.5.0.. | while read x do bk export -tpatch -r$i > ~ftp/patches/patch-$i done
[henning@henning henning]$ bk prs -hrv2.5.0.. | while read x
while: Expression Syntax.
You obviously just _underlined_ the point, Larry.
Regards
Henning
It's tcsh; before you ask.
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Quoted 10 lines · Henning P. Schmiedehausen
Quoted 4 lines · Larry McVoy
# extract all the patches from 2.5.0 onward. bk prs -hrv2.5.0.. | while read x do bk export -tpatch -r$i > ~ftp/patches/patch-$i done[henning@henning henning]$ bk prs -hrv2.5.0.. | while read x
while: Expression Syntax.
You obviously just _underlined_ the point, Larry.
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It's tcsh; before you ask.
If you know that the above works only with [zk(ba)]sh, I don't know what point you would be making by stating that it doesn't work with tcsh. Put it in a script, and put #!/bin/bash on the top. Now wasn't that fun?
mark
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Quoted 9 lines · Mark Mielke
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[henning@henning henning]$ bk prs -hrv2.5.0.. | while read x
while: Expression Syntax.
You obviously just _underlined_ the point, Larry.
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It's tcsh; before you ask.If you know that the above works only with [zk(ba)]sh, I don't know what point you would be making by stating that it doesn't work with tcsh.
Shhhh, you're ruining the free-software-fans-bash-Larry show.
cheers,
Rik
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Quoted 9 lines · Henning P. Schmiedehausen
[henning@henning henning]$ bk prs -hrv2.5.0.. | while read x
while: Expression Syntax.You obviously just _underlined_ the point, Larry.
Regards
HenningIt's tcsh; before you ask.
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Quoted 1 line · Matthias Andree
Flame attractor: No sane person works with [t]csh.
Let's see... we've had a SCM flamewar, a license flamewar, an Emacs/VI taunt or two, a csh/sh taunt, and even Hitler. Add this to the ESR flamewar, the devfs flamewar, the odd microkernel LART, and a spam or three.
If we only had kibo, LKML would be USENET.
(ducks)
ian
(a fried of whose once sig'ed: "Unencumbered with facts as I am, I will now comment." -- USENET motto)
Quoted 5 lines · Andi Kleen
I also prefer not to use Bitkeeper as long as possible for similar reasons and because it is too slow and clumpsy
(although it is already very hard because often source is only available through it, e.g. for ppc or for 2.5 pre patches now -- hopefully this trend does not continue)
Something I've not yet worked out is why none of the proponents of arch, subversion etc are offering to run a mirror of Linus' bitkeeper tree for those who don't want to use bk, but "must have 0-day kernels".
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| Dave Jones. http://www.codemonkey.org.uk | SuSE Labs
Replying to Dave Jones:
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Something I've not yet worked out is why none of the proponents of arch, subversion etc are offering to run a mirror of Linus' bitkeeper tree for those who don't want to use bk, but "must have 0-day kernels".
Because they do not want bitkeeper, and do not know how to bk pull & export WITHOUT bk itself :)
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Quoted 8 lines · Paul P Komkoff Jr
Replying to Dave Jones:
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Something I've not yet worked out is why none of the proponents of arch, subversion etc are offering to run a mirror of Linus' bitkeeper tree for those who don't want to use bk, but "must have 0-day kernels".
Because they do not want bitkeeper, and do not know how to bk pull & export WITHOUT bk itself :)
Really, that's too stupid for words. Let them first figure out how to keep the data from passing through any proprietary routers in the Internet.
The real answer is that they can't do it.
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