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Linux kernel crash dumps (LKCD) and PowerPC ports.

DISCUSSION Arun Dharankar 3 participants 5 messages Apr 8, 2003 – Apr 9, 2003

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Please look at the lkcd-devel mailing archives. There is at least one group working on a PPC port of LKCD

	http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=2726

--Matt

Quoted 21 lines · Arun Dharankar

Greetings.

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From what I able to find from some searching around, the implementation

by MCLX ("http://oss.missioncriticallinux.com/projects/mcore/") is being carried on at http://lists.insecure.org/lists/linux-kernel/2003/Feb/0987.html.

Looking at these patches, I can only see x86 architecture support for in memory kernel crash dump support. Is anyone actively working on the PowerPC architecture?

Best regards,

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Matt, thanks for the pointers!

Looking at those sites, it appears that the development at "http://lists.insecure.org/lists/linux-kernel/2003/Feb/0987.html." which I had pointed is based on the SGI's dump scheme. Same for the one you pointed to.

The other scheme I poinited to (from Mission Critical Linux/MCLX) seems to have some strong points too. Any pointers to discussions about why the LKCD work seems to more active than the MCLX one?

Best regards,
-Arun.

Quoted 22 lines · Matt D. Robinson

Please look at the lkcd-devel mailing archives. There is at least one group working on a PPC port of LKCD

	http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=2726

--Matt

Quoted 14 lines · Arun Dharankar

Greetings.

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From what I able to find from some searching around, the implementation

by MCLX ("http://oss.missioncriticallinux.com/projects/mcore/") is being carried on at
http://lists.insecure.org/lists/linux-kernel/2003/Feb/0987.html.

Looking at these patches, I can only see x86 architecture support for in memory kernel crash dump support. Is anyone actively working on the PowerPC architecture?

Best regards,
-Arun.

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Quoted 11 lines · Arun Dharankar

Matt, thanks for the pointers!

Looking at those sites, it appears that the development at "http://lists.insecure.org/lists/linux-kernel/2003/Feb/0987.html." which I had pointed is based on the SGI's dump scheme. Same for the one you pointed to.

The other scheme I poinited to (from Mission Critical Linux/MCLX) seems to have some strong points too. Any pointers to discussions about why the LKCD work seems to more active than the MCLX one?

I don't think there has been such a discussion. The Mission Critical hackers were hired by RedHat and Dave Anderson continues to work on crash and making it available at:

ftp://people.redhat.com/anderson

He's had about a release per month. I thought MCLX crash has some strong points also. After I enhanced LKCD to support the ia64 I fixed MCLX crash so it could read the new LKCD crash dumps which are no longer monotonically increasing in memory. I did this to support NUMA systems which can have more memory than swap space. This way the most important memory can be saved first.

If you read the lkcd-devel mailing list you can read our discussion on maintaining MLCX crash on the lkcd cvs tree.

"And imnsho, debugging the kernel on a source
level is the way to do it."
Linus

-piet

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Best regards,
-Arun.

Quoted 22 lines · Matt D. Robinson

Please look at the lkcd-devel mailing archives. There is at least one group working on a PPC port of LKCD

	http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=2726

--Matt

Quoted 14 lines · Arun Dharankar

Greetings.

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From what I able to find from some searching around, the implementation

by MCLX ("http://oss.missioncriticallinux.com/projects/mcore/") is being carried on at
http://lists.insecure.org/lists/linux-kernel/2003/Feb/0987.html.

Looking at these patches, I can only see x86 architecture support for in memory kernel crash dump support. Is anyone actively working on the PowerPC architecture?

Best regards,
-Arun.

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Piet, thanks for the reply!

Some of the points that I found attractive (among other points):

- Overall a smaller time to reboot and save the dump, and bring the system back to working state.
- Does not require local disk to save the dump on the way down during a panic - works on a diskless system.
- No need for a dump/swap device.

Looking at the MCLX site, the last patch is on 2.4.17 only. Also, the PowerPC port is a bit broken. Is anyone maintaining this part of the MCLX scheme, and is available else where?

Best regards,
-Arun.

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Looking at those sites, it appears that the development at "http://lists.insecure.org/lists/linux-kernel/2003/Feb/0987.html." which I had pointed is based on the SGI's dump scheme. Same for the one you pointed to.

The other scheme I poinited to (from Mission Critical Linux/MCLX) seems to have some strong points too. Any pointers to discussions about why the LKCD work seems to more active than the MCLX one?

I don't think there has been such a discussion. The Mission Critical hackers were hired by RedHat and Dave Anderson continues to work on crash and making it available at:

ftp://people.redhat.com/anderson

He's had about a release per month. I thought MCLX crash has some strong points also. After I enhanced LKCD to support the ia64 I fixed MCLX crash so it could read the new LKCD crash dumps which are no longer monotonically increasing in memory. I did this to support NUMA systems which can have more memory than swap space. This way the most important memory can be saved first.

If you read the lkcd-devel mailing list you can read our discussion on maintaining MLCX crash on the lkcd cvs tree.

"And imnsho, debugging the kernel on a source
level is the way to do it."
Linus

-piet

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Best regards,
-Arun.

Quoted 6 lines · Matt D. Robinson

Please look at the lkcd-devel mailing archives. There is at least one group working on a PPC port of LKCD

	http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=2726

--Matt