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How to configure an ethernet dev as PtP ?

DISCUSSION Stephan von Krawczynski 3 participants 4 messages Apr 15, 2003

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Hello all,

I tried to configure an ethernet device as a pointopoint link recently, just to find out that this does not work as one would expect via:

ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1 pointopoint 192.168.5.1 up

I tried on kernel 2.4.21-pre6 and 2.2.19 (just to name two), both the same. It comes up as:

eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:04:76:F7:E9:17
inet addr:192.168.1.1 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1

I do not understand why this does not work out just like another ptp-interface like isdn:

isdn0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr FC:FC:00:00:00:00
inet addr:192.168.1.1 P-t-P:192.168.5.1 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MTU:1500 Metric:1

Is there anything I mis-understood or a good reason for not being able to make eth pointopoint?

I have the feeling this question is pretty brain-dead, but anyway, maybe some kind soul can drop a few words ...

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Stephan
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Quoted 21 lines · Stephan von Krawczynski

Hello all,

I tried to configure an ethernet device as a pointopoint link recently, just to find out that this does not work as one would expect via:

ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1 pointopoint 192.168.5.1 up

I tried on kernel 2.4.21-pre6 and 2.2.19 (just to name two), both the same. It comes up as:

eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:04:76:F7:E9:17
inet addr:192.168.1.1 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1

I do not understand why this does not work out just like another ptp-interface like isdn:

isdn0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr FC:FC:00:00:00:00
inet addr:192.168.1.1 P-t-P:192.168.5.1 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MTU:1500 Metric:1

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Is there anything I mis-understood or a good reason for not being able to make eth pointopoint?

I have the feeling this question is pretty brain-dead, but anyway, maybe some kind soul can drop a few words ...
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Regards,
Stephan

Because ethernet is not a point-to-point interface. At the hardware level, ethernet talks from one hardware address to another hardware address, i.e., the IEEE station address. You need ARP to find out what that address is so you can't "get there from here." But, you can do essentially the same thing, you set up a host route on that interface.

Use a 'private' network address...

On one host:

ifconfig eth1 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 10.0.0.255 route add -host my-router-ip-address dev eth1

On the other host:
ifconfig eth1 10.0.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 10.0.0.255 route add -host my-client-ip-address dev eth1

Cheers,
Dick Johnson
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Quoted 32 lines · On Tue, 15 Apr 2003 08:10:59 -0400 (EDT) "Richard B. Johnson"…
Quoted 21 lines · Stephan von Krawczynski

Hello all,

I tried to configure an ethernet device as a pointopoint link recently, just to find out that this does not work as one would expect via:

ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1 pointopoint 192.168.5.1 up

I tried on kernel 2.4.21-pre6 and 2.2.19 (just to name two), both the same. It comes up as:

eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:04:76:F7:E9:17
inet addr:192.168.1.1 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1

I do not understand why this does not work out just like another ptp-interface like isdn:

isdn0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr FC:FC:00:00:00:00
inet addr:192.168.1.1 P-t-P:192.168.5.1 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MTU:1500 Metric:1

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Is there anything I mis-understood or a good reason for not being able to make eth pointopoint?

I have the feeling this question is pretty brain-dead, but anyway, maybe some kind soul can drop a few words ...
--
Regards,
Stephan

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Because ethernet is not a point-to-point interface. At the hardware level, ethernet talks from one hardware address to another hardware address, i.e., the IEEE station address. You need ARP to find out what that address is so you can't "get there from here." But, you can do essentially the same thing, you set up a host route on that interface.

Well, the world today really knows ptp-type ethernet-interfaces in WAN environment, this is where the question comes from. Think of simply a two-ended bridged WAN connection. It is in fact (like) ptp.

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Use a 'private' network address...

That is only a _good_ alternative on first sight, but thinking again about it you might as well say that in a rather big-sized WAN environment with lots of hosts involved that route all kinds of private ips it is a really nice idea to connect the interconnecting wan-boxes with ptp _not_ burning down additional (private) subnets without real need. (remember, if you have lots of wan connections you need lots of private subnets, but if you could use ptp you need _none_)

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Stephan
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Quoted 6 lines · Stephan von Krawczynski

Hello all,

I tried to configure an ethernet device as a pointopoint link recently, just to find out that this does not work as one would expect via:

ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1 pointopoint 192.168.5.1 up

How about:

/sbin/ip ad ad 192.168.1.1 peer 192.168.5.1 dev eth0

this gives:

# /sbin/ip ad
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP> mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 brd 127.255.255.255 scope host lo
2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 100
    link/ether 00:06:5b:a2:b3:8a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 192.168.1.1 peer 192.168.5.1/32 scope global eth0

Does that do what you want?

Chris

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