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DISCUSSION Larry McVoy 6 participants 16 messages May 10, 2003 – May 11, 2003

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Try #2, first one didn't seem make it.

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Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 19:46:13 -0700
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Subject: kernel.bkbits.net and BK->CVS gateway

We replaced the bad drive and are restoring home directories. Once we have the restore done, we'll turn on people's accounts again. We are shutting off nightly backups for a few days so that we have the backups to cherry pick any missing config files, etc.

This bad disk is the cause of the CVS gateway being screwed up, we should have that back online tonight or tomorrow. Sorry about the downtime.

Peter, once it's back can you do whatever you did to get the resync stuff going (if you put a startup script in /etc/init.d, don't worry about it, I'll restore that and restart).

Dave, I put RH 7.3 on there but didn't install any security fixes, you get to do that fun job if you care.

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This bad disk is the cause of the CVS gateway being screwed up, we should have that back online tonight or tomorrow. Sorry about the downtime.

Any idea if the new repo will be revision compatible with the old bkcvs? IOW, will checkouts have to be redone?

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Quoted 5 lines · Ben Collins
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This bad disk is the cause of the CVS gateway being screwed up, we should have that back online tonight or tomorrow. Sorry about the downtime.

Any idea if the new repo will be revision compatible with the old bkcvs? IOW, will checkouts have to be redone?

It should be 100% compatible, I build the CVS repo here and mirror it to kernel.bkbits.net. You should be all set.

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Quoted 9 lines · Larry McVoy
Quoted 5 lines · Ben Collins
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This bad disk is the cause of the CVS gateway being screwed up, we should have that back online tonight or tomorrow. Sorry about the downtime.

Any idea if the new repo will be revision compatible with the old bkcvs? IOW, will checkouts have to be redone?

It should be 100% compatible, I build the CVS repo here and mirror it to kernel.bkbits.net. You should be all set.

Ah, so bkbits wasn't the primary source. Thanks again Larry.

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Quoted 5 lines · Ben Collins
Quoted 4 lines · Larry McVoy
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This bad disk is the cause of the CVS gateway being screwed up, we should have that back online tonight or tomorrow. Sorry about the downtime.

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Any idea if the new repo will be revision compatible with the old bkcvs? IOW, will checkouts have to be redone?

It should be 100% compatible, I build the CVS repo here and mirror it to kernel.bkbits.net. You should be all set.

Ah, so bkbits wasn't the primary source. Thanks again Larry.

I'm not sure that I follow that, but

a) kernel.bkbits.net is fully backed up nightly so we wouldn't lose it there
b) the CVS tree is generated on my desktop so we have a mirror of it there
c) HPA mirrors the CVS tree to kernel.org so we have a third copy there
d) Regenerating the the CVS tree from scratch will generate the same revs.

In other words, I think you're safe. Famous last words, we'll now discover that our friends in .cz have written the world's first BK virus and it corrupts the CVS tree. Or something. Regardless, we've taken steps to make sure the CVS data is safe and restorable.

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Quoted 4 lines · Larry McVoy

In other words, I think you're safe. Famous last words, we'll now discover that our friends in .cz have written the world's first BK virus and it corrupts the CVS tree. Or something. Regardless, we've taken steps to make sure the CVS data is safe and restorable.

Could you please stop making random accusations? Pavel probably has better things to do than to write a 'BK virus'. And about that comment 'taking steps to make sure CVS data is safe'...

Quoted 2 lines · Larry McVoy

Dave, I put RH 7.3 on there but didn't install any security fixes, you get to do that fun job if you care.

Hmm, let's see https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/rh73-errata-security.html

Remote vulnerabilities for at least, CVS, OpenSSH, OpenSSL, Sendmail, Apache, Samba, and MySQL.

I sure hope Dave cared, because I wouldn't even consider plugging an unpatched anything into the network in the first place. Let alone announce this fact to a widely distributed mailing list.

Even without such a clear announcement any new machine that I connect is typically portscanned within 30 minutes. Maybe the situation is worse at CMU because CERT is in our address space or something, but still.

Jan

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Quoted 7 lines · Jan Harkes
Quoted 4 lines · Larry McVoy

In other words, I think you're safe. Famous last words, we'll now discover that our friends in .cz have written the world's first BK virus and it corrupts the CVS tree. Or something. Regardless, we've taken steps to make sure the CVS data is safe and restorable.

Could you please stop making random accusations? Pavel probably has

Could you please stop whining about something that was clearly a joke? Jeeze, get a sense of humor already.

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better things to do than to write a 'BK virus'. And about that comment 'taking steps to make sure CVS data is safe'...

Quoted 2 lines · Larry McVoy

Dave, I put RH 7.3 on there but didn't install any security fixes, you get to do that fun job if you care.

Hmm, let's see https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/rh73-errata-security.html

Well aren't we the do goody little sys admin. For your information, those patches were applied before I opened up the box, turned on accounts, or turned on CVS.

[root@kernel root]# up2date -u
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None of the packages you requested were found, or they are already updated.

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I sure hope Dave cared, because I wouldn't even consider plugging an unpatched anything into the network in the first place. Let alone announce this fact to a widely distributed mailing list.

So are you volunteering to manage that machine? Or just complaining?

It *never* fails to amaze me. I spend my friday night in a colo, spend saturday morning finishing the job, and some arm chair quarterback has to come along and rudely tell me that I'm not doing it right?!? Would it be any surprise if the next time there is a problem we just let it slide for a few weeks before it gets fixed?

"it's about being nice to people especially the ones that help you."

What he said.

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Hi,

Quoted 3 lines · Larry McVoy

"it's about being nice to people especially the ones that help you."

What he said.

So that gives you a right to be an ass to anyone who critizes you?

bye, Roman

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Quoted 7 lines · Roman Zippel
Quoted 3 lines · Larry McVoy

"it's about being nice to people especially the ones that help you."

What he said.

So that gives you a right to be an ass to anyone who critizes you?

He has every right to be upset at people who are buttfucking him in public constantly.

This person was rude and totally out of order with his comments. He's making it entirely a personal attack at Larry.

And to that I'd say "fuck you" too.

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Hi,

Quoted 3 lines · Larry McVoy

"it's about being nice to people especially the ones that help you."

What he said.

So that gives you a right to be an ass to anyone who critizes you?

A-trolling we will go, a-trolling we will go, hi ho, the merry-o, a-trolling we will go.

Not gonna bite, can't do it, wouldn't be prudent, Barbara wouldn't like it.

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Hi,

Quoted 2 lines · David S. Miller

This person was rude and totally out of order with his comments. He's making it entirely a personal attack at Larry.

Could please show me, where it was rude?

bye, Roman

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From: Roman Zippel <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 22:59:18 +0200 (CEST)

Could please show me, where it was rude?

This fish doesn't bite, go fishing at another pond.

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Hi,

Quoted 3 lines · David S. Miller

Could please show me, where it was rude?

This fish doesn't bite, go fishing at another pond.

IOW you don't know it either... :(

bye, Roman

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In reply to Larry McVoy

Hi,

Quoted 3 lines · Larry McVoy

"it's about being nice to people especially the ones that help you."

What he said.

BTW here is a new quote for you:
"Treat others the way you want to be treated!"

bye, Roman

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In reply to Larry McVoy

Things appear to be back working again. Thanks Larry.

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Make kernel.bkbits.net public via web? [was Re: kernel.bkbits.net and BK->CVS gateway]

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Quoted 4 lines · Larry McVoy

Try #2, first one didn't seem make it.

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Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 19:46:13 -0700
From: Linux Kernel Mailing List <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: kernel.bkbits.net and BK->CVS gateway

We replaced the bad drive and are restoring home directories.
Once we have the restore done, we'll turn on people's accounts again.
We are shutting off nightly backups for a few days so that we have the backups to cherry pick any missing config files, etc.

[SNIP]

Larry,

I was wondering if you would considier putting a bkbits web frontend on kernel.bkbits.net. I can think of a few cases where it might come in handy. For example, one of the devs is too busy (understandably) to roll a patch at a given point in time and states in response to a bug report that (s)he'll get linus to pull the fixes later on. In this case, people who like to live dangerously and don't want to wait might take it upon themselves to surf over to kernel.bkbits.net and download the ChangeSet rather than cloning an *entire* tree just to get it. I suppose this would also serve as a means for people who do not (or cannot) use bitkeeper to get said ChangeSet.

Cheers,
Nicholas